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Default 09-23-2006, 02:33 PM

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Also, I'm trying to adapt this to use an 8700 physically tethered. Anybody getting any luck with this?
Have you been able to get your mac to recognize the 8700 is attached? If so. does your mac recognize it has modem or serial port capabilitues?
   
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Default 09-24-2006, 12:25 AM

Yes, it recognizes it as attached, and sees it as a modem. I actually tried using your script as it's modem script but no dice.

The computer clearly recognizes the device, and tries to dial it. Always some error though, because no correct script has been written.
   
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Exclamation I've tried everything! - 09-25-2006, 08:09 PM

Ok, so I have done all the steps with no hiccups several times now...

The internet connect app goes through connecting to PPP, authenticating user, followed immediately by disconnecting, then gives me the error that it couldnt establish a connection with the PPP server.

Not sure what this means... I do only have a GPRS signal in the house instead of EDGE, does that make a difference?

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Default 09-26-2006, 02:56 PM

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Ok, so I have done all the steps with no hiccups several times now...

The internet connect app goes through connecting to PPP, authenticating user, followed immediately by disconnecting, then gives me the error that it couldnt establish a connection with the PPP server.

Not sure what this means... I do only have a GPRS signal in the house instead of EDGE, does that make a difference?

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Should work with either GPRS or EDGE. Is your signal particularly weak? Do you have a username and password entered in Internet Connect?
   
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Default 09-26-2006, 08:39 PM

No, my signal seems fine! 4 bars!

It's weird, its like it's not even trying it goes through the steps so fast...
   
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Default 09-26-2006, 10:06 PM

Okay, I seem to be having the same problem with the automatic disconnecting. It connects for about 40 seconds, then disconnects. Then the "connection was terminated because the other side is not responding" message pops up.

The whole time, there are no (zero) bars next to send and receive!

I'm on T-Mobile using the BlackBerry Internet & E-mail plan. And I'm using a MacBook Pro.

So, any solutions?

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Default 09-26-2006, 11:10 PM

Hey guys, I have a problem, I am new to MACS and I am trying to make the tethering thing work because i have a few long stays in the hospital with no wireless.... SO! When I open up the library modem scripts how do I copy in the scripts how do I do that? when I click on any of the files in there it says something about how there is no application to open it. How do I go about putting the script in there? I appreciate the help guys, sorry if it's a dumb question...
   
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Default 09-26-2006, 11:23 PM

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Hey guys, I have a problem, I am new to MACS and I am trying to make the tethering thing work because i have a few long stays in the hospital with no wireless.... SO! When I open up the library modem scripts how do I copy in the scripts how do I do that? when I click on any of the files in there it says something about how there is no application to open it. How do I go about putting the script in there? I appreciate the help guys, sorry if it's a dumb question...
You don't edit an existing script. You actually move the whole txt file into the Modem Scripts folder.

Let me know how it works for you. I'm having trouble keeping on the connection. Good luck.
   
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Default 09-27-2006, 01:14 PM

To those having disconnection issues: check that you have a username and password entered in the appropriate fields in Internet Connect (guest for both should work) and that the phone number is set to wap.voicestream.com. In addition I've gotten conflicting reports about whether you need to have an APN set up on your Pearl - if you haven't already, go to Options -> Advanced Options -> TCP and specify an APN of wap.voicestream.com. On mine I have a username of wap and no password, but I don't believe those fields are used.
   
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Default 09-27-2006, 01:59 PM

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check that you have a username and password entered in the appropriate fields in Internet Connect (guest for both should work)
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and that the phone number is set to wap.voicestream.com.
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if you haven't already, go to Options -> Advanced Options -> TCP and specify an APN of wap.voicestream.com. On mine I have a username of wap and no password, but I don't believe those fields are used.
check but it still disconnects at 41 seconds
   
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Default 09-30-2006, 02:32 PM

Thanks HSE! I figured out how to get the file into the modem scripts but on my desktop when i dragged it in there it had the .txt extension. Afterwards I went into the folder and deleted the .txt extension because I thought someone in here said I needed to do that... so I did. I also have all my settings set as they were laid out in the guide. Once I hit connect in the internet connect it says "connecting to PPP server" or something like that and then immediately says disconnecting. This is using a 15 inch mac book pro and I have to admit after using a PC for ten years its taking me some time to get used to Macs but I swear I did everything just like you guys said! lol Anyone have any input?
   
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Thanks HSE! I figured out how to get the file into the modem scripts but on my desktop when i dragged it in there it had the .txt extension. Afterwards I went into the folder and deleted the .txt extension because I thought someone in here said I needed to do that... so I did. I also have all my settings set as they were laid out in the guide. Once I hit connect in the internet connect it says "connecting to PPP server" or something like that and then immediately says disconnecting. This is using a 15 inch mac book pro and I have to admit after using a PC for ten years its taking me some time to get used to Macs but I swear I did everything just like you guys said! lol Anyone have any input?
I'm also on a MacBook Pro and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else?
   
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Default 10-01-2006, 07:05 PM

Do you think it's something lost in translation between the original posters g4 laptop and the intel macs? We need an intel mac guru in here! Anyone ahve any hookup?
   
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Default 10-01-2006, 09:51 PM

Here is the log from internet connect on my MacBook:

Sun Oct 1 18:46:43 2006 : Connecting via BlackBerry 8100.
Sun Oct 1 18:46:43 2006 : Making EDGE connection.
Sun Oct 1 18:46:47 2006 : Serial connection established.
Sun Oct 1 18:46:47 2006 : Using interface ppp0
Sun Oct 1 18:46:47 2006 : Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cu.Bluetooth-Modem
Sun Oct 1 18:46:48 2006 : Remote message: guest
Sun Oct 1 18:46:48 2006 : PAP authentication succeeded
Sun Oct 1 18:46:49 2006 : LCP terminated by peer
Sun Oct 1 18:46:52 2006 : Connection terminated.
Sun Oct 1 18:46:57 2006 : Serial link disconnected.

It disconnects right at the LCP stage. The whole process takes about 13 seconds. Man I wish an Intel guru could get this working...
   
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Default 10-02-2006, 05:33 PM

Seems doubtful that Intel Macs would handle this stuff differently than G4-based Macs, but I suppose it's possible.
What's odd to me is that the connection terminates where it does - once you've successfully authenticated, the Mac PPP stack takes over and the script exits. So for you to get an LCP termination message, you have to be able to successfuly send data over the link!

Since you're already looking at the log, here's what you can do to get more debug output (please be comfortable with UNIX terminal commands before even thinking about attempting this, and don't do it if you've set up other ppp options!): in Terminal, execute the following:

sudo echo 'debug' > /etc/ppp/options

You'll be asked to type the password you use to log into your Mac. Afterward, try to connect again. You should see extra logging between PAP auth and LCP termination. Again, don't try this unless you're sure you know what you're doing, as mucking about with sudo can seriously hose your mac.

One further note - those whose connections are terminating after less than 10-15 seconds I can probably help, but anything longer than that is most likely a signal strength or interference issue. Still, I'll help if I can.

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Default 10-02-2006, 09:12 PM

I dont know why but its giving me the Permission Denied response, the user I am logged on to is an Admin..

I remember doing something in terminal before and having to type a password but here it doesnt ask for one, just Permission denied..

Forgive my lack of terminal skills.. still new to macs...
   
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Default 10-02-2006, 09:17 PM

Ok, here's what I just did... and it WORKS!

I took out the **9**/9 or whatever that string is.. and put in wap.voicestream.com in the phone number field, and success!!

I dont know how many times I read all the instructions and still ended up trying to put in *99***1# in the phone number field in Internet Connect, looking back on the past few days I feel mighty silly now

It's weird that you can look at something over and over thinking it's right when it's glaringly wrong...

Thanks to everyone for your help! Man I feel like such a noob...

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Default 10-02-2006, 09:39 PM

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Ok, here's what I just did... and it WORKS!

I took out the **9**/9 or whatever that string is.. and put in wap.voicestream.com in the phone number field, and success!!

I dont know how many times I read all the instructions and still ended up trying to put in *99***1# in the phone number field in Internet Connect, looking back on the past few days I feel mighty silly now

It's weird that you can look at something over and over thinking it's right when it's glaringly wrong...

Thanks to everyone for your help! Man I feel like such a noob...
Ah, but think of the service you've just done me and the BBF community - now anyone who has the same problem can search and find the answer! Thanks for posting what the problem was.
   
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Default 10-04-2006, 11:02 PM

I used the following settings in my Macbook Pro.

username: guest
password: guest
gprs CID string: wap.voicestream.com


mine works great.
   
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Default 10-05-2006, 09:49 AM

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Okay, I seem to be having the same problem with the automatic disconnecting. It connects for about 40 seconds, then disconnects. Then the "connection was terminated because the other side is not responding" message pops up.

The whole time, there are no (zero) bars next to send and receive!

I'm on T-Mobile using the BlackBerry Internet & E-mail plan. And I'm using a MacBook Pro.

So, any solutions?
same problem, except some bars jump around on send and receive but still no go on the connection...

it authenticates and all that stuff, sits for about a minute with some bars jumping and then disconnects for the same reason as above...

any ideas?

i have 3 bars of EDGE signal...


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Default 10-05-2006, 09:53 AM

no luck with those altered settings listed above (wap.voicestream.com instead of the *9 thing)


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Default Same for me - 10-05-2006, 01:50 PM

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no luck with those altered settings listed above (wap.voicestream.com instead of the *9 thing)
Same thing for me man. I went into my bluetooth sttings and configured the 8100 and set the phone number as wap.voicestream.com and then tried it again to make it connect and it wouldnt do it.... hmmmm
   
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Unhappy hrm... - 10-05-2006, 08:46 PM

Thu Oct 5 17:38:08 2006 : Connecting via BlackBerry 8100.
Thu Oct 5 17:38:08 2006 : Making EDGE connection.
Thu Oct 5 17:38:11 2006 : Serial connection established.
Thu Oct 5 17:38:12 2006 : Using interface ppp0
Thu Oct 5 17:38:12 2006 : Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cu.Bluetooth-Modem
Thu Oct 5 17:38:13 2006 : Remote message: guest
Thu Oct 5 17:38:13 2006 : PAP authentication succeeded
Thu Oct 5 17:38:17 2006 : local IP address 10.175.47.242
Thu Oct 5 17:38:17 2006 : remote IP address 10.0.0.2
Thu Oct 5 17:38:17 2006 : primary DNS address 66.94.9.120
Thu Oct 5 17:38:17 2006 : secondary DNS address 66.94.25.120


So that's what I keep getting when I try to log in... it looks as though it's working... and it says I'm connected, even in the Network System Preferences... but I can't send or receive any data. Strange...

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Hmm. I can't think of any reason why things wouldn't work once you've gotten an IP address from T-Mobile. Your IP and gateway look right - maybe you're being assigned a bogus DNS server?
   
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Default got it... - 10-09-2006, 04:08 PM

got it working... dont know how but i tried it again and it worked..


i got 67k download and 7k upload... i used the old txt first then replaced it with the new one so idk if its because i only have 1-2 bard of EDGE or if it didnt overwrite the old txt with the updated one...

either way i love that it works and itll pay off during those long drives to orlando and stuff...


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Default No response to 4 echo-requests - 10-09-2006, 11:20 PM

All,
I took a stab at getting this up and running tonight. I just got my 8100 this afternoon and am loving it so far. I have however run into a snag trying to get it acting as a modem.

I followed all the directions specified on ggoodale's site, setting the apn, cid and what not. The devices are paired properly, and it seems to connect to the device but times out after a given interval. The timeout appears to occur whenever I try and utilize the connection.

It chokes on the line "No response to 4 echo-requests".

Also, when the script is executing I get a popup terminal window that says "OK" with a continue / cancel button. didn't know if that is normal or not. this is all on a macbook.

An excerpt from the log file:
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Mon Oct 9 23:09:38 2006 : Connecting via BlackBerry 8100.
.....
Mon Oct 9 23:09:47 2006 : ipcp: up
Mon Oct 9 23:09:47 2006 : local IP address 10.186.110.107
Mon Oct 9 23:09:47 2006 : remote IP address 10.0.0.2
Mon Oct 9 23:09:47 2006 : primary DNS address 66.94.25.120
Mon Oct 9 23:09:47 2006 : secondary DNS address 66.94.9.120
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : No response to 4 echo-requests
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : Serial link appears to be disconnected.
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : ipcp: down
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "Peer not responding"]
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x3]
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : Connection terminated.
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : Connect time 1.2 minutes.
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Thanks for the script, instructions, and any help in this matter

Thanks,
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Default 10-10-2006, 04:57 PM

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got it working... dont know how but i tried it again and it worked..


i got 67k download and 7k upload... i used the old txt first then replaced it with the new one so idk if its because i only have 1-2 bard of EDGE or if it didnt overwrite the old txt with the updated one...

either way i love that it works and itll pay off during those long drives to orlando and stuff...
Glad it's working for you! Speed is directly related to signal strength, so I wouldn't expect to get full EDGE speeds with 1-2 bars.
   
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All,
I took a stab at getting this up and running tonight. I just got my 8100 this afternoon and am loving it so far. I have however run into a snag trying to get it acting as a modem.

I followed all the directions specified on ggoodale's site, setting the apn, cid and what not. The devices are paired properly, and it seems to connect to the device but times out after a given interval. The timeout appears to occur whenever I try and utilize the connection.

It chokes on the line "No response to 4 echo-requests".

Also, when the script is executing I get a popup terminal window that says "OK" with a continue / cancel button. didn't know if that is normal or not. this is all on a macbook.

An excerpt from the log file:
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Mon Oct 9 23:09:38 2006 : Connecting via BlackBerry 8100.
.....
Mon Oct 9 23:09:47 2006 : ipcp: up
Mon Oct 9 23:09:47 2006 : local IP address 10.186.110.107
Mon Oct 9 23:09:47 2006 : remote IP address 10.0.0.2
Mon Oct 9 23:09:47 2006 : primary DNS address 66.94.25.120
Mon Oct 9 23:09:47 2006 : secondary DNS address 66.94.9.120
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : No response to 4 echo-requests
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : Serial link appears to be disconnected.
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : ipcp: down
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "Peer not responding"]
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x3]
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : Connection terminated.
Mon Oct 9 23:10:54 2006 : Connect time 1.2 minutes.
-------------------------------------------

Thanks for the script, instructions, and any help in this matter

Thanks,
-Jay
The popup terminal window suggests to me that your ppp options are set incorrectly. Does your Bluetooth connection show up in System Preferences -> Network? If it does, select it and click the 'Configure...' button. Click the 'PPP Options...' and verify the settings are the following:

* All Session Options are unchecked.
* Send PPP Echo Packets is unchecked. (I have it checked and have no problems, but others have reported success with this turned off.)
* Connect using a Terminal Window is unchecked.
* Prompt for password after dialing is unchecked.
* Use verbose logging is checked.

If your Bluetooth connection doesn't show up in the Network preferences pane, you can get it to show up by selecting the Devices tab in Bluetooth preferences, selecting your 8100 from the list, and clicking on 'Edit Serial Ports'. Pick the Serial Port with Dialup Networking listed in the service column, then check the 'Show in Network Preferences' checkbox. (You might want to check that the port type is set to Modem while you're there, too.)

Hope that helps! Let me know if you find a solution and I'll post it on my blog as well.
   
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ggoodale, you are a saint. that did the trick. Many thanks.
   
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ggoodale, you are a saint. that did the trick. Many thanks.
Glad it worked out! I'll include those instructions on my blog as well - a number of people were having the same problem. Hopefully it'll help them out as well.
   
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Thanks ggoodale! I posted the details below for those who need it.
i downloaded the .txt file and moved into home/libary/modem scripts but it is not listed when i try to select it in the configure step...it lists dozens of other modem scripts but i cant seem to find this one needed

what do i do to make that script visible? all avail scripts is checked


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i downloaded the .txt file and moved into home/libary/modem scripts but it is not listed when i try to select it in the configure step...it lists dozens of other modem scripts but i cant seem to find this one needed

what do i do to make that script visible? all avail scripts is checked
If you haven't already, restart Internet Connect. If that doesn't make the script show up, I'd recommend rebooting your Mac - it's not clear what exactly makes new scripts show up in the list.
   
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Default 7130g - 10-15-2006, 03:53 PM

Is there any way to just use this as ascript for any other blackberry phone with tethering abilitys with the same OS?
because i have a 7130g and if i where to do the same thing with the phone set up as a network port with the script selected would it work?
(i Cant get signal at my house so i cant test this as it is a desktop mac)
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Is there any way to just use this as ascript for any other blackberry phone with tethering abilitys with the same OS?
because i have a 7130g and if i where to do the same thing with the phone set up as a network port with the script selected would it work?
(i Cant get signal at my house so i cant test this as it is a desktop mac)
thanks
Nope, only works with the 8100 as far as I know.
   
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Default Helpppp - 10-16-2006, 08:15 PM

Hi everyone!
I have problems with this I don't know where i have to put the script I copyed this and i make a new text folder and what next! What I have to do ! Do I have to send this to my phone(using the bluethoot)!!and what is MAC???
Can someone can tell me this in easy way step by step!!!
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some people told me that I have to have apple computer ??
Does some one know how to do it using the windows xp
   
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Default 10-20-2006, 04:15 PM

I just hit 226kbps on the speed test. Fantastic.
Upload is slower than hell though: only 8kbps
   
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Default 10-21-2006, 10:20 PM

ggoodale

You are a pimp!

Thanks for all the info. I work in production (Commercials, Music Videos, etc) and I was about to buy a Cingular PC card.

Thanks!!!!
   
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Thumbs up Works like a charm - 10-25-2006, 02:33 PM

Thank you ggoodale for this info!
I just set this up on my Mac Book Pro and it works like a charm. At first I had the 'other side not responding' issue, but after following your tips to get fix that issue, I have not had a problem since.

I am a Cingular user and am connecting via wap.cingular

Download Speed: 192kbps
Upload Speed: 8kbps

I do have a question which maybe someone could address. I am on the unlimited Blackberry Personal Plan ($29.99/month) and am just curious if this connection is going to be seen as a different type of data stream by Cingular, and will be charged as regular data transfer (as in not covered in the unlimited plan).

I just remember that when I used to connect through WAP before I had my blackberry, I used to get nailed with some pretty hefty data transfer charges and just want to make sure that won't start happening again.

Any reassurance (especially by Cingular customers) would be appreciated. Thanks!



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Default 10-30-2006, 10:17 PM

cool just got it to work on my macbook pro...104 down/4 up on T-mobile EDGE
   
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