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Old 01-16-2008, 01:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, going to grab a 2gb micro sd card for my 8830. Are all sd cards pretty much the same? I was looking at this deal at new egg, hows it look?


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Old 01-16-2008, 01:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sandisk is a name brand, along with Kingston. That is about the only difference
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The are all the same for the most part. There isn't much that can go wrong with flash memory. It's works or it doesn't. I would shop by what best fits your price range. Think about how much you need. You don't wanna come up short or exceed what your device can support.

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^all of the above^ and next time attempt to use that nifty search button at the top... more likely than not someone else has had the same question/problem as you
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Thanks guys for the quick responses. I really only need it to throw some pictures on so when my contacts call i can have a picture of them on there. Also would like to put some ringtones on and such. What size do you think would work for me?
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Thanks guys for the quick responses. I really only need it to throw some pictures on so when my contacts call i can have a picture of them on there. Also would like to put some ringtones on and such. What size do you think would work for me?
2Gb will suit you just fine. As for the brand, I would stick with Kingston or Sandisk.

Right now the Kingston online store has a great deal, 2Gb MicroSD card with adapters for $16 with free 3-day shipping here
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2Gb will suit you just fine. As for the brand, I would stick with Kingston or Sandisk.

Right now the Kingston online store has a great deal, 2Gb MicroSD card with adapters for $16 with free 3-day shipping here
Wow thanks for the great deal you posted up! Just ordered one!
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i have searched and dont see anything to be of help or im not understanding?

If i get on these sites, i find them for 36$ all the way to 120$, all for the 8gb. I have the new pearl and read that it will take the 8gb. my question is how do i know that its the correct one? here is a link if someone can tell me if this is good "or" bad or wont even work with my phone. sorry i have never used a flash memory before. i just want to make sure i order the correct one before i do it!!

Newegg.com - Transcend 8GB Secure Digital High-Capacity(SDHC) Flash Card w/Compact Card Reader S5 Model TS8GSDHC6- S5W - Retail


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found one, atleast i hope i did i did order it from another link i found on this site. Will post info on it when i have it up and runing.
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i have searched and dont see anything to be of help or im not understanding?

If i get on these sites, i find them for 36$ all the way to 120$, all for the 8gb. I have the new pearl and read that it will take the 8gb. my question is how do i know that its the correct one? here is a link if someone can tell me if this is good "or" bad or wont even work with my phone. sorry i have never used a flash memory before. i just want to make sure i order the correct one before i do it!!

Newegg.com - Transcend 8GB Secure Digital High-Capacity(SDHC) Flash Card w/Compact Card Reader S5 Model TS8GSDHC6- S5W - Retail


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The link you posted was for a regular SDHC. What you want is a MicroSDHC.

Like this one: Newegg.com - A-DATA 4GB MicroSDHC Class 6 Flash Card Model Turbo microSD HC 4G - Retail

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Cool Clarification of MicroSD vs MicroSDHC specs still needed

It appears (with an annoying 60% certainty) that MicroSD and MicroSDHC sizes overlap.
If MicroSD is using Fat32 and MicroSDHC is not using Fat32(??), this is significant.

So, it appears, both SD and SDHC comes in 4G, but different file systems.

This reference implies the above:

SD Card: Information and Much More from Answers.com

....but doesn't state it outright. (I believe this is a copy off of Wikipedia)

This source supports the above statement, unless Samsung's PR people were sloppy with distinguishing between the two formats:

SAMSUNG Develops Mobile Phone Memory Card with Record Storage Capacity SAMSUNG

To add to the confusion, some BB-83xx's appear to report the capacity
correctly, even though they are not be able to use the full reported
capacity.

blackberryFAQ.com just adds more confusion, stating a compatibility difference between 83xx models.

[url=http://blackberryfaq.com/index.php/What_type_and_size_Media_Card_can_I_use_in_the_810 0_/_8300_/_8800%3F[/url]

The FAT32 thing isn't clarified either. Versions of fat32 have capacities ranging from 32GB to 8TB, (depending on the implementation), so fat32 all by itself is not a limiting factor.

Another reference says the incompatibility lies with memory addressing:
(sector addressing vs byte addressing)

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC[/url]

There's no shortage of opinion (guessing) on this though.....

Is there a way to get someone with some real authority on this to comment ?
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It appears (with an annoying 60% certainty) that MicroSD and MicroSDHC sizes overlap.
If MicroSD is using Fat32 and MicroSDHC is not using Fat32(??), this is significant.

So, it appears, both SD and SDHC comes in 4G, but different file systems.

This reference implies the above:

SD Card: Information and Much More from Answers.com

....but doesn't state it outright. (I believe this is a copy off of Wikipedia)

This source supports the above statement, unless Samsung's PR people were sloppy with distinguishing between the two formats:

SAMSUNG Develops Mobile Phone Memory Card with Record Storage Capacity SAMSUNG

To add to the confusion, some BB-83xx's appear to report the capacity
correctly, even though they are not be able to use the full reported
capacity.

blackberryFAQ.com just adds more confusion, stating a compatibility difference between 83xx models.

[url=http://blackberryfaq.com/index.php/What_type_and_size_Media_Card_can_I_use_in_the_810 0_/_8300_/_8800%3F[/url]

The FAT32 thing isn't clarified either. Versions of fat32 have capacities ranging from 32GB to 8TB, (depending on the implementation), so fat32 all by itself is not a limiting factor.

Another reference says the incompatibility lies with memory addressing:
(sector addressing vs byte addressing)

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC[/url]

There's no shortage of opinion (guessing) on this though.....

Is there a way to get someone with some real authority on this to comment ?
Rule number one: never trust sites like answers.com or wikipedia.org!

The best place to find these types of answers are from the standards groups who define exactly what manufacturers must adhere to for the designation, or the manufacturer websites.

I posted on this subject in a different thread posting detailed information supplied by Sandisk.

There is no overlap- above 2Gb, all cards are microSDHC. Filesystem on microSD is FAT 16, whereas microSDHC are SD FAT 32.

The microSDHC standard is NOT backwards-compatible with microSD because of this filesystem difference.

Hence reader (be it your BlackBerry, card reader or otherwise) MUST be microSDHC certified.

I'm assuming all of the RIM devices that support the media card are compatible, but don't quote me on that one. I just checked for my Curve since that's all I cared about!

Just be forewarned if you want to use a separate reader for the MicroSDHC, it must be SDHC-compatible. Lots of computer and stand-alone card readers that are over two years old probably are NOT.
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not all microSD over 2gb are SDHC. The very first set of 4gb produced were in the microSD FAT 16 format, though they are all but gone (i do have 4 or so in my house somewhere)
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not all microSD over 2gb are SDHC. The very first set of 4gb produced were in the microSD FAT 16 format, though they are all but gone (i do have 4 or so in my house somewhere)
I'd be curious to know the brand and part number of a 4Gb microSD card. According to the Sandisk information sheet I referenced earlier:
Be aware of non-SDA 2.00 specification compliant SD 4GB, miniSD 4GB, and microSD 4GB cards on the market. If these non-compliant SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB cards record data in a SDHC host, and are then used in a legacy SD/miniSD/microSD host, issues and problems may occur. File system incompatibility, data corruption, and potentially you may actually lose the data/pictures. In addition, if these non-compliant SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB cards are inserted into a legacy SD/miniSD/microSD host device, the host device may not recognize/utilize the card as 4GB, and it instead may read as a 2GB card. If the SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB card does not have SDHC/miniSDHC/microSDHC on it, it is not SD 2.00 compliant.
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it is a Kingston is all i know. when i format i am unable to select FAT32 on the PC, it is only FAT16

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Default Sandisk recommends 4GB SDHC for 8300

Here's a good clue. Sandisk recommends a 4GB SDHC for the Curve 8300.
It's reasonable to assume 8310 and 8320 at compatible too.

Look at this Sandisk Add
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