hmm...$6? i don't pay for themes but if i were i'd want a custom theme - custom icons or something that wows me...other than changing the banner and font, you can get this by using the standard theme and adding that background...

it's nice, but i don't know if it's worth spending money on...

This thread title, and word usage sounds familiar :D

Agreed. It should be something special for coin charged.

Lol, I can see how the thread title may look familiar. But the word usage came from me.

And based on Corey's poll, there are plenty of people that like the default icons. More that like custom ones, but still plenty that like default.

yes, and i'm one that voted for default...and for default icons it should be free...i think if you look at the comments from corey's poll, those who like default probably lean more towards free themes than pay-for-themes....i may not pay, but i'll give my $0.02.

Well I guess you are entitled to your opinion. However, I feel that there is a good amount of work put into the theme either way, and that work should be compensated for. I do offer some free themes.

my opinion is that the "good amount of work" you put into this was just changing options in themebuilder and nothing custom really...that's all i do for my themes, and i give them away for free or just use them myself...i don't feel like i can charge for something anyone can do....i would only charge if i gave them something completely customized outside of themebuilder...

i hope you make some money, cause that only helps you in the long term...it will make you want to make more themes...this benefits everyone...i just think maybe you have begun to charge a little too soon in your theme building quest...

Whats up with all the Pay Themes lately? I guess anyone can install Themebuilder..throw a wallpaper up..and change a few colors...

Nice default icons...make them yourself? I bet Plazmic has a policy against selling their work...

Learn to make something mind blowing..then charge for it.

I hear what you are saying, but I still stand to what I said.

the author has a right to charge whatever they want for their theme. you as consumers, have the right not to buy it. The End. lets keep this thread away from the pay/free debate please.

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Moderator wisdom indeed.

So much hate in this forum that I am actually drawn away from posting anything anymore here... great job to all the Pay theme makers and Free theme makers alike... somehow it saddens me to see people who owns supposively free themes sites bashing constantly on people with pay theme sites... in my humble opinion, when you truly have a free site have NO Ads, NO Adsense, No Banners, no Google ads and etc.. then you can ***** all you want!!! If not in the end people with FREE theme sites are yet just taking advantage of other people's work towards their advantage by driving traffic to their site or forum with the word FREE then collecting a good fat paycheck from the payperclickers.

An somehow its such irony, what is Mind Blowing??? I put up 2 kickass themes .. and I am cursed to death by these people saying I violated this and that.. BS.. the end of the day.. its just sad.. to see a community fall to this level... How do one make a MIND BLOWING THEME ??? Would it be against NDAs and stuff huh?? So who are you really trying to benefit Mr. Free theme man which I will not name...you or the community???

In closing, keep up the good work BBerryCurve8300, CoreyVisto and those that came before I and after, you guys do great work, dont let anyone talk you down on your work!! Keep you heads high and you shall be rewarded!!! Anyone who works for an honest dollar should have the right to it if another choses to pay him for it.. let the mass decide.

Very good point. You have an excellent site and you are one of the best theme builders I have seen. You keep up the good work as well! Thanks.

I, too, am tired of this theme-builder bashing routine.

It get soooooooooo old each time someone puts their work up for review (commercial or free) to read the same old tired complaints. And that blade cuts both ways... I just really don't understand how the entire "theme community" can't just get along. You will all increase your level of creativity as you build others up, not as you stomp one down.

You know, in case your Mama never told you, then I will: "if you can't say something nice, just don't say it." And that applies here. Constructive criticism is one thing, bashing is another. And as adults, we know the difference. For those that don't know the difference, there is a door that will be closed behind you. This is not censorship, it is just plain decency. Let's adhere to a new standard around here, please.

/ok, my rant off.

ok, so my posts were moved here...but i think my comments were constructive criticisms...he's asking to be paid for something that probably took just mins to create...i suggested adding some flair to this and then ask for money...

i don't think that's bashing anyone...i think that is GREAT criticism...oh well...

Yes... Editing icons, changing colors, figuring out the best color scheme, making/finding backgrounds, checking, double checking, creating/editing things in Photoshop, testing it in a simulator, fixing things, putting it on a phone, fixing things, exporting, hosting downloads... That really takes minutes to do, now doesn't it?

again, like i said, you have made minor mods in theme builder..i've made themes and can see the changes you've made...i only suggested you try more "advanced" additions to your themes if you're going to try to sell them...

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Yea, oh well.

Thanks for keeping it all here.

Here we go again...

house is probably the only show on TV i watch besides ESPN and the various news channels

Huh?! I think you are getting delirious from all the posting! I think House rocks too!

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why am i getting delirious? Mrkyoo posted a clip of House right above my post

Please excuse the frivolous post, but darn, MrKyoo, that's the funniest thing I've seen posted in a long time.

But just to add a little bit to the topic, I agree that anyone should be able to post any theme they want to and ask any amount they want to. If others want to buy it, they will. If they don't want to buy it, they won't. How simple is that?

Oh good lord, let it die people!

mriff, please do not use profanity, this is a family site.
*edited out profanity*

I've come to find that for some people, this just doesn't click.

I don't have a problem with premium themes...I have a few myself.

I simply stated that a theme using default icons shouldn't be a pay theme.

Gadgetbean themes..are mind blowing...and should be premium. Corey's themes are pretty darn (didnt swear) exceptional too..and he deserves any penny he can make from it...

My point was that...don't put out a theme where you slapped a fancy wallpaper and changed a few colors..and expect to get paid for it.

And..as for my site...hosting cost money..I'm paying $98 a month. Vbulletin cost money..VBSeo cost money... I'm not using Free servers or software to run the site... So..any money *I* make goes back into the site....

ALSO..The contests I am running...who pays for the $250 that goes to the winner? Revenue from the ads...thats who.

You have stated your thoughts over and over. We understand what you think should be put out for sale, and what you think should not be. But quite frankly, it is none of your business if people want to sell their themes or not. Someone could go off and charge 300 dollars for a theme. Does it mean people will buy it? Probably not... BUT PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELL THEIR WORK TO ANYONE THEY DESIRE AT ANY PRICE! It is not your place to tell people how to sell, what to sell, or how much to sell it for...

And by the way, I like to get along with everyone on forums I belong to. So I am willing to forget this little dispute and pretend like it never happened. But it takes two for that to happen.

As this is an open forum, it is anyone's business to state their opinions on whether themes should be sold or not. As has been stated before, don't pay for one if you don't want to.
As for Mr Kyoo's post, only someone like myself who has quit smoking (3 solid years) and chews gum constantly can really appreciate that. Probably also one of the more intelligent posts, or should I say entertaining, I have read.

(Diligently going back through other posts as I've used that word plenty of times before. Especially in the College Football Thread when talking about the Dawgs! )

i am only one man! did you edit those posts accordingly?

You think this is bad, try coming from the world of PALM and Windows Mobile...They charge for everything...and the themes and stuff that are free are not very nice, and usually crap your phone out. I say put this to rest...if you do not want to pay, then do what I do, and click " NEXt ". My 2 cents.

Sith, PM sent.

mriff, you know a different level of decorum is allowed in the Football threads...

Yes, that word would seem rather tame in there.