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Old 04-06-2008, 09:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, I've gotten an 8830 and I have had for quite some time now. I trying to start using this as an mp3 player, I've gotten a headset for when I work out or do some yard work and I have the Bluetooth Stereo Gateway for when I'm at home cooking or w/e, I also have a 4 GB Micro SDHC card (with only 1 GB left of free space)

I just want to know what my options are as for as some Media Players go that have Play list support. I tried using FlipSide, however for one reason or another it really slowed my Blackberry down, and kept hour glassing so I uninstalled it. I have also been using xPlayer (Found in the Aftermarket software forum). I searched the forum and found another Media Player but it looked like it as only for 8100.

What have you guys been using for a Media player and are there any programs I may have missed?
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The built in Media Player has Play List support, and works pretty well with excellent Bluetooth remote control compatability (the one downfall of FlipSide).
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I hope I shouldn't be feeling too stupid.

Where do I go to create a Play list? (I've gotten 400+ songs on my BlackBerries Micro SDHC card and I want to mix and match many songs by various artists.)
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Media Player>Music>Playlists> <New Playlist>
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Hmm.

When I go to Media Player -> Music, the only options I have are "All Songs", "Artists", "Albums", "Genres", "Sample Songs", "Shuffle Songs", I don't have an option for "Play Lists" I am using an 8830 running 4.2.2.176, upgrade the OS maybe?
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that bites. what OS version do you have?
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BB 8830, OS 4.2.2.176, Platform 3.0.0.79

Did a little searching "Improved media player with playlist support and automatic playlist generation (H)" I may have to wait for 4.5....
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Check Verizon's website, I am not sure if 4.3 is available for the 8830, but that is the version I have and it does have playlist support.

Even with 4.2 when I had an 8830, if you create the playlist using another application when adding music to your msd card, it would work.

try searching around this site, you might find a way to do it. I did it using Sprint Music Store, but that wouldn't help you.
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4.3 is not available for any devices outside of the pearl 2 series. 8110, 8120, and 8130s. 4.5 when it comes it will have playlist support. you are correct on creating a playlist on another app though, you can transfer it over.
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The built in Media Player has Play List support, and works pretty well with excellent Bluetooth remote control compatability (the one downfall of FlipSide).
Okay, maybe you can help. I noticed the PLAYLIST on my 8830. I tried creating a few with a variety of "formats" - that is trying to figure out what kind of folder information was necessary, if any. So I used Media Monkey and another program to create m3u playlists. They do not work. When I pick playlist from the MediaManager, I see the ones I created. I actually see them no matter where they are on the SD card. At it root, in the Blackberry folder and in the Music folder. I pick one - NOTHING plays.

I've also gone about trying EXPLORE it. I can again, find Playlists. I can pick one. Nothing happens.

I can even use the Option button and SHOW Playlist and it shows my mp3 filenames in the playlist. If I try highlighting one and pressing the ball, it merely scrolls automatically down the list of files, stops at the last one and does NOTHING.

So might you post the first 3 or 4 track lines from your playlist to show what the file/folder references might be in that playlist. Also what is the format - m3u? Other.

I can play albums, genre, etc. It is creating and using Playlists that escapes me.

Thanks in advance.
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Okay, maybe you can help. I noticed the PLAYLIST on my 8830. I tried creating a few with a variety of "formats" - that is trying to figure out what kind of folder information was necessary, if any. So I used Media Monkey and another program to create m3u playlists. They do not work. When I pick playlist from the MediaManager, I see the ones I created. I actually see them no matter where they are on the SD card. At it root, in the Blackberry folder and in the Music folder. I pick one - NOTHING plays.

I've also gone about trying EXPLORE it. I can again, find Playlists. I can pick one. Nothing happens.

I can even use the Option button and SHOW Playlist and it shows my mp3 filenames in the playlist. If I try highlighting one and pressing the ball, it merely scrolls automatically down the list of files, stops at the last one and does NOTHING.

So might you post the first 3 or 4 track lines from your playlist to show what the file/folder references might be in that playlist. Also what is the format - m3u? Other.

I can play albums, genre, etc. It is creating and using Playlists that escapes me.

Thanks in advance.
I was so hoping to use MediaMonkey for playlists on my 8300 (ATT), but I really don't want an iPhone just to get playlists. Come on RIM!
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From what I have determined, the built in media application
- on 4.3.xxx supports playlist composition on the device (I don't have this yet, so I can't speak directly);
- on 4.2.xxx supports playlist playback, but only if the playlist is built by an outside entity;
- WMP11 will recognize the 4.2.xxx, in Mass Storage Mode, as a storage device, so it can sync files, but won't smart-convert or convert playlists;
- the bundled MediaManager 9 application will build 4.2.xxx compatible playlists via drag-and-drop of existing playlists, but does not offer any auto-sync functionality.

Here is an .m3u created by MediaManager 9, which does not create a folder structure (m3u's and mp3's are all in the same /Blackberry/Music directory.):

Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,Christina Aguilera-Stripped-11-Beautiful
Christina Aguilera-Stripped-11-Beautiful.mp3
#EXTINF:0,Kelly Clarkson-Breakaway-03-Behind These Hazel Eyes
Kelly Clarkson-Breakaway-03-Behind These Hazel Eyes.mp3
#EXTINF:0,01 Bette Davis Eyes
01 Bette Davis Eyes.mp3
#EXTINF:0,Alannah Myles-Alannah Myles-03-Black Velvet
Alannah Myles-Alannah Myles-03-Black Velvet.mp3
#EXTINF:0,01 Blue
01 Blue.mp3
#EXTINF:0,Destiny's Child-Survivor-03-Bootylicious
Destiny's Child-Survivor-03-Bootylicious.mp3
#EXTINF:0,Kelly Clarkson-Breakaway-01-Breakaway
Kelly Clarkson-Breakaway-01-Breakaway.mp3
#EXTINF:0,01 Breathless
01 Breathless.mp3
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I use Winamp to manage music, and like most of you was frustrated with the playlist problems. In either mass storage mode in the phone via USB or connecting the MicroSD card directly to the PC resulted in the same thing. The songs and playlist would copy over correctly, but when opening the playlist in the Pearl media player it would show the playlist as having "no songs".

I found a posting from "inferno65" over on MediaMonkey's forum with a solution that worked for me. You need to edit your playlists the following way:

In Winamp, and I'm betting any other playlist generator, you get the following file listing in the playlist:

\The Helio Sequence\Keep Your Eyes Ahead\01 - Keep Your Eyes Ahead.mp3
\Bottomless Pit\Hammer of the Gods\01 - The Cardinal Movements.mp3
\Evangelicals\The Evening Descends\03 - Skeleton Man.mp3

You need to open the playlist in Notepad and add a period to the front of each file path as follows:

.\The Helio Sequence\Keep Your Eyes Ahead\01 - Keep Your Eyes Ahead.mp3
.\Bottomless Pit\Hammer of the Gods\01 - The Cardinal Movements.mp3
.\Evangelicals\The Evening Descends\03 - Skeleton Man.mp3
Let me clarify one part of my solution above:

Make sure you do "save as", select "all files", and then select the original file name to save as a correct .m3u file, otherwise it will save as a .txt file and won't work. Also, edit the properties of the file and click on the check box for "read only." Winamp kept saving over the existing playlist files and corrupting them whenever I would copy new playlists over, so read only stops this problem.

The Pearl's media player then sees the songs and plays them fine.

Perhaps RIM can fix this ridiculous problem in a future version. I have a new 8GB microSD card and RIM can't get the basics right in order to compete with the iPod.

Art

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Let me clarify one part of my solution above:

Make sure you do "save as", select "all files", and then select the original file name to save as a correct .m3u file, otherwise it will save as a .txt file and won't work. Also, edit the properties of the file and click on the check box for "read only." Winamp kept saving over the existing playlist files and corrupting them whenever I would copy new playlists over, so read only stops this problem.
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