these are the instructions i followed...
http://home.comcast.net/~tamsterra/B...Model_Tips.pdf

Thanks very much. Worked out my software in my 8700g doesn't contain the zen theme. Tried the Telstra with success except it is missing soe key applications i like to asign to the side and convenience keys- so now trying the BHARTI.

Thanks

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I did the same for my Cingular 8700c. ZEN is cool, but now I can not get my bb to operate as a tethered modem. Worked great before this OS change. Any ideas out there?

Worked GREAT!! Thanks!

Thank you Seattle18!
Thank you Jibi!
Upgrade went perfectly.

whoa, that stinks. I did not have that issue at all. As a matter of fact, i am writing this tethered to my 8700c.

This theme (BHARTI) is not as good as the Zen theme on my 7130g. And the Telstra one is lacking features too, such as being able to allocate a large choice of applications to the side and convenience keys, especially the keylock!

The 7130g has the best combination of both the Telstra and BHARTI, fyi.

cheers

This post doesn't make sense. Telstra and Bharti are two separate OS's, and cannot simultaneously be on the same device. So there is no way to have "the best combination of both Telstra and BHARTI." Additionally, they both are basically identical. They both have Zen theme on them, which lines up the icons on the right of the home screen. There are a few minor differences, but basically they are the same.

Like I said earlier, the Telstra doesn't allow many options to be selected to the convenience and side buttons, such as the keylock, which I use for the convenience button.

The BHARTI version makes the ringtones sound WAY too loud that it distorts the speaker, so I am reverting back to my original software, without the Zen theme. I find the Zen theme is better on the 7100 series and the Dimension Icon is better for the 8700 series making better use of the screen, unless you really need to have a main picture visible at all times, which I don't.

But the 7130g does have the best version of the Zen theme, shame it hasn't been remade for the 8700g.

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This is what my modem diagnostics looks like following Telstra v4.1.0.371 OS install and ZEN theme on my 8700c:

ATQ0V1E0 Success
AT+GMM BlackBerry IP Modem
AT+FCLASS=? COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
AT#CLS=? COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
AT+GCI? COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
AT+GCI=? COMMAND NOT SUPPORTED
ATI1 Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI2 Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI3 Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI4 Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI5 Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI6 Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem
ATI7 Research in Motion / BlackBerry IP Modem

Now my tetherd BB modem no longer works. Interesting that your's works. I followed the steps as posted. Was running Cingular's latest OS (on a new 8700c). Followed the modem set up that was posted. Ran flawlessly as a modem with thruput @115K. Then loaded Zen and found out that my modem would not connect. I am getting "TCP/IP reported error 736. The remote computer terminated the control protocol." Maybe someone has some ideas out there?

that looks like a Cingular Connection Manager issue to me. I would contact cingular and maybe re-install the cingular software.

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Thx, I just completed reloading device manage and desktop manager on my laptop to get my modem back. I deleted it a couple of days ago when it did not work. Could not manually install it, so I reinstalled 4.1, but still no modem connectivity.

then try to delete the modem. unistall the cingular software. start over. per your post / paste, the dialer does not like the modem. The modem in this case is the 8700c. Just delete it and let the Cingular software re-find it. I think you have to choose the USB option if i remember correctly. My laptop is not here or i could be more detailed.

First of all thank you so much for this wonderful tutorial. Thank you Seattle18 and all those that worked with you.

Everything went fine on my installing the new Telstra OS with all the themes. I installed this on my 8700c. The only problem I've encountered is that after the install an old email address I don't use from hotmail has returned to the list of icons. I deleted it from my service book and it is still visible. I don't just want to hide this icon. I want it to be removed permanently. How can I get this icon removed? It is no longer in my list of active emails either and yet it is still on my device.

TIA!

Jonah

haha...okay...after removing the icon from the service book I did another update on the Host Routing Table and pulled the battery out of the back...waited 30 seconds and put it all back together and VOILA...the email icon is now gone.

Thank you again everything works great...

I downloaded everything fine and added the "today" theme. Everything is fine other than when I use the "Today" theme, I cannot add a picture as the background. If I am in a different theme, the option to add as a background shows on my menu, but when I use the "Today" theme and click on a picture, that option is not available. Help???

NEVER MIND - I switched it to Dimension Today and the backgrounds work ... and I found on another post that backgrounds don't work with Voda today.

since i have an 8700g i went about going to have the zen theme unlocked.
only problem is when i went to delete the appropriate vendor ids they werent even there, as if they were already deleted or didnt need to be deleted in the first place because i had the zen theme already there after all..
so why is the zen theme not showing up?

thanks.

Yeah, but did you have the right version of desktop manager? I did it, i.e. edited the info in blackberry.alx, using notepad, and it worked fine...

Seattle, thanks!

I just installed the Telstra OS and it seems to be working great! I love the Today theme.

Thank you to everyone who put the effort into making these themes available to all.

Thanks a ton for the easy to follow directions! I'm a Mac guy and was able to pull this off without any hitches.

Bravo!

Well, on second thought. I'm now using the Zen theme, but there is no browser for me to use...or at least it's not enabled. Any idea how I can enable my web browser? Is this a common issue?

Thanks in advance.

Very Common.

Options>Advanced>Host Routing Table>Register Now

Thanks a ton, Pizzle...actually I had to resend my service books. Amazing what I can find when I "search".

Thanks again.

Worked perfectly! Thanks for the excellent instructions. Now, my ringtone volume level issue is fixed, and I love the Vodaphone theme. Nice work!

Thanks seattle18 for the instructions! After a few tries at uploading the zen theme I finally got it!

first try worked great. thanks!!

I took the plunge into Telstra. Everything went without a hitch. My only interest was improved volume function but since I have new themes I will probably give them a whirl. Being a former Treo 600 user I am hooked on phones that I can amend/add functionality. This is my first BB and I am happy with the switch. I love this forum. It beats the heck out of the instruction manual. Is it a felony to type Treo here? lol Thanks!

How do I get seattle18's desktop backrounds from his website? I also I tried locating the files for the ZEN theme and I have no shared folder anywhere?
Any ideas
Thanks
Toast
Newbie

hey all- first of all thanks to Jibi and Seattle- easy instructions-

BUT, i thought everything was seamless, until i tried to use 3-way calling. and i got the message 'operation failed'

anyone else get this- i need my conference calling ability, but am addicted to zen-

HELP

-Neil
8700c on Cingular

excellent work...i appreciate it

AWESOME step by step instructions. I love the ZEN them. I had to have TMO resend my service books to get MMS, browser icon, and t-zones back. Loving Telestra

Cheers
toast

I've gotten the same errors too on Telestra. I've also gotten Call Failed errors when trying to place a call and Forwarding Errors when checking my voicemail. Gonna have to revert to Bharti because this thing lags more than my PC on 56k dialup.

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I installed Telestra and Zen over the weekend. Worked great.

I was switching back and forth between themes and decided to stay with Zen. One time I get a RIM error and it had option to reset, I reset and everything was fine.

Thanks Seattle18 for the info!

So, I am going to probably do this, but I wanted to make sure that before doing it, it is not going to interfere with anything I have added to my 8700c, such as BBtoday, BB Weather, Weatherbug, etc. Seems like it's a really cool theme to have, and I want to do it, but I really do not wish to get into a 1000 phone calls to Cingular. What is the difference between the Telestra and the other anyway? Thanks.

It won't interfere with any of the apps you have. Just be sure to follow the instructions exactly.

Difference between Telestra and BHARTI is minimal. Go for the Telestra, seems to be faster. Some people find one or the other more unstable just like anything.

Do it!

the biggest difference you will notice right away with Telstra is how loud your BB has become. Even on low settings, the 8700c is still very loud. The Zen theme is also very nice.

Thanks for the information. The only thing I am wondering is why the Zen theme is better then the others. I am able to acccess the Dimension list vs. Icon, and it looks like the Zen is pretty much a list format. Is this true? One thing I do not like about the list is that for whatever reason, the call log does not show up, so I cannot even dial a number from that screen since I have that option disabled to be able to use quick compose and quick note.

Is the Zen theme different in that regard to the list themes that I have?

In this instruction:

5. Go to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader and delete or rename Vendor.xml

When you say to delete OR rename, which is better? And what would you recommend renaming it as? Does it matter? Does it matter if I just delete it altogether?