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ADPCM Ringtones [True Audio Ringtones for 7100 handhelds] - NOT FOR 7100i -
03-15-2005, 02:13 PM
I'm starting a new thread since the last one, "ADPCM Ringtone Mystery Half Solved" doesn't do the situation justice. The mystery's at least 3/4 solved now ;).
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03-15-2005, 02:25 PM
You'll need a couple things to make an .adp ringtone that'll play on the 7100:
1) an audio editor (Cool Edit, etc)
2) a webserver
3) The Philips version of Mobile Phone Tools. Get it here:
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/c/c...p2_ics_eng.zip
First edit your .wav or .mp3 down to about 15 seconds. We need to make sure that the final .adp file is under 120K, which seems to be the max file size the 7100 can handle. Save the file as an MS PCM wav.
Next, install Mobile Phone Tools. Skip the part that asks for your Identifier, fax #, etc. Also, whenever you start the program it's gonna ask how your phone is connected to your PC. Since it only works with Philips phones, click cancel.
Mobile Phone Tools can apparently be used to sync contacts, email, etc, but we have a Blackberry so we don't care about that functionality. All we need this program for is the Multimedia Center. Click the Menu button, then Tools, then Multimedia Center. Once this opens click on the button that says Melody Studio. Open your wav, click Save As, and select Oki ADPCM as the file type.
Now upload this file to your web server. Before you can download to the 7100, you need to make sure that the correct MIME type has been set. MIME types tell a browser how to handle certain file extensions. You want to add the MIME type "audio/adpcm adp". The way to do this differs from server to server, so check your web server's documentation or speak w/ your hosting company.
Once you've got the MIME type set, and the .adp file uploaded, open up the BB browser and navigate to the URL where your .adp is. It can take a few minutes for it to load, so don't panic. Once the Media Player has loaded and your ring tone is playing, click the scroll wheel and choose save. It'll ask for confirmation that you want to save it (you can also change the file name at this point).
That's it. You've now got a ringtone infinitely better than midi on your 7100 ;)
I'll be updating this as more information is known. There's still a few bugs to work out as far as the absolute max file size, etc.
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03-15-2005, 02:41 PM
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03-15-2005, 04:01 PM
A good audio editor to use to shorten your tracks is Goldwave, there is a free trial that you can use from download.com. Direct link here: GoldWave 5.06
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03-15-2005, 04:04 PM
Actually, you can also use the melody studio to shorten your files without the use of another editor.
BTW, great info!!
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03-15-2005, 04:14 PM
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Actually, you can also use the melody studio to shorten your files without the use of another editor.
BTW, great info!!
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Yeah, you can change the name to whatever you'd like in Melody Studio, but I like to keep the file names short (i.e. hole.adp) then change it to something more descriptive once I get it on the 7100 (i.e. Head Like a Hole.adp).
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03-15-2005, 04:20 PM
Oh nice, I didn't even realize that you could edit them from within that program. I'm thinking about setting up a site where people can upload their own ringers to download to their phone. I'm already working on the upload scripts but I'm thinking of maybe having a WAP interface for quick browsing. Anybody have any experience in this department that can point me in the right direction?
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03-15-2005, 06:56 PM
I succesfully create the file and i upload it to my yahoo brief case and it was uploaded fine. I can even download it off using my computer but when i use the BB browser to go on the same page, the file is not there. Any idea?
***Ok nvm i got it to show up on yahoo briefcase but when i tried to "get link" the file i get error "http error 406:Not acceptable- the page you are trying to load is not supported by the browser.Please try loading a different page."
Right now i have two files on there, one end in .adp ext and the other one end in adpcm extension and both seem not to work. What did i do wrong guys
BTW when i save the file as .adp ext it seem like its a Ms access project file. Is that right?
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03-15-2005, 09:32 PM
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***Ok nvm i got it to show up on yahoo briefcase but when i tried to "get link" the file i get error "http error 406:Not acceptable- the page you are trying to load is not supported by the browser.Please try loading a different page."
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That's happening because Yahoo doesn't have the audio/adpcm MIME type configured (99% of webservers won't). With a lot of rarely-used file extensions, a browser won't know what to do with a file unless the webserver "tells" it what to do. Since Yahoo isn't telling the BB that a .adp file is an adpcm audio file, the BB doesn't know to open it in the media player.
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03-15-2005, 10:21 PM
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That's happening because Yahoo doesn't have the audio/adpcm MIME type configured (99% of webservers won't). With a lot of rarely-used file extensions, a browser won't know what to do with a file unless the webserver "tells" it what to do. Since Yahoo isn't telling the BB that a .adp file is an adpcm audio file, the BB doesn't know to open it in the media player.
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What server do you use to upload Adp files then?
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03-15-2005, 11:32 PM
Basically this is for people who are administrators of their own web server (or atleast have administrative rights to an apache or IIS server) and know how to configure MIME types. For instance, I configured our IIS server for this purpose (although after many failed previous attempts, I was told by RIM that this wasn't possible).
Thanks for the new info. I will test it out tomorrow. Very cool!
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03-15-2005, 11:36 PM
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Oh nice, I didn't even realize that you could edit them from within that program. I'm thinking about setting up a site where people can upload their own ringers to download to their phone. I'm already working on the upload scripts but I'm thinking of maybe having a WAP interface for quick browsing. Anybody have any experience in this department that can point me in the right direction?
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Lucky, the best index-creating script I found, although its not WAP/WML, buts its an amazing indexer, is the AutoIndex PHP script - http://autoindex.sourceforge.net
Hope that may help. I don't see why it would need to be WAP/WML but rather stripped down HTML/PHP (and then supported by most updated BBs). 
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03-16-2005, 12:21 AM
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Basically this is for people who are administrators of their own web server (or atleast have administrative rights to an apache or IIS server) and know how to configure MIME types. For instance, I configured our IIS server for this purpose (although after many failed previous attempts, I was told by RIM that this wasn't possible).
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So basicly "regular" ppl like us there is no way to upload this and just simply get it on BB browser, what about Wap site, do you think it would work? I tried to do an email attachment, that doesnt work either so i guess emailing is out of the question.
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03-16-2005, 12:52 AM
You are the friggin MAN.... way to stay on top of it.... Did what you said and it worked like a charm..... gunna be up all night making ringtones.
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03-16-2005, 02:01 AM
what does this mean "unsupported media type: application/octet-stream"
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03-16-2005, 07:18 AM
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what does this mean "unsupported media type: application/octet-stream"
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it means you do not have the proper mime type set on the server you're attempting to download the file from.
simply uploading the .adp file to any ol' web server you have access to is not sufficient. you must have administrative privileges on the web server, so that you can set up the adpcm mime type correctly, in order for it to work.
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03-16-2005, 07:37 AM
...Is that Led Zepplin 'Kasmir'? No no, that's just my phone ringing!!

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03-16-2005, 08:45 AM
I have a BB without a Data plan (for now), and I would like new ringtones...
How are the ringtones stored once on the blackberry?
Are they .cod files that could be sent?
Could anyone with an uploaded ringtones could check? ("javaloader -usb dir")
I had a Sanyo SCP 6000 (Skinny) before, and it had a PERFECT classic phone ringtone, people were really thinking if was a real old phone
The classic phone ringtone on the BB is utter crap compared.
I'd be so happy if it could be extracted from the cell phone... And we could make easy the download ringtones, sparing Rogers users their precious "unlimited" bandwidth...
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03-16-2005, 10:14 AM
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it means you do not have the proper mime type set on the server you're attempting to download the file from.
simply uploading the .adp file to any ol' web server you have access to is not sufficient. you must have administrative privileges on the web server, so that you can set up the adpcm mime type correctly, in order for it to work.
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I know this to not be a fact as long as your allowed to add .htaccess files to the directory in question you can add any MIME type you want even if you arent a webmaster. Not only that it is really simple to setup a simple directory structure that even blackberrys will love here let me break it down for you guys.
You create a text file and write in it these following things:
Options +Indexes
addType audio/adpcm adp
The first one allows you to browse the website folders contents and only that folder and the second one adds the mime types for adp simple as that. you can also add these two if you want to be able to upload Jar and Jad files to be able to do over the air downloads:
AddType text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor jad
AddType application/java-archive jar
HOPE THAT HELPS
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03-16-2005, 10:26 AM
Hi,
Just wondering does anyone have a link to an example that I could download as I'm curious to hear the difference! 
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03-16-2005, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Entropy666
I know this to not be a fact as long as your allowed to add .htaccess files to the directory in question you can add any MIME type you want even if you arent a webmaster. Not only that it is really simple to setup a simple directory structure that even blackberrys will love here let me break it down for you guys.
You create a text file and write in it these following things:
Options +Indexes
addType audio/adpcm adp
The first one allows you to browse the website folders contents and only that folder and the second one adds the mime types for adp simple as that. you can also add these two if you want to be able to upload Jar and Jad files to be able to do over the air downloads:
AddType text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor jad
AddType application/java-archive jar
HOPE THAT HELPS
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Only if your web server is Apache ( well... if it's not, it should be ;) )
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03-16-2005, 11:53 AM
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Only if your web server is Apache ( well... if it's not, it should be ;) )
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True, Well i run a few dedicated servers so if you guys need a place to post these ringtones i can offer you that. And i dont know many free hosts that dont use apache.
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03-16-2005, 11:56 AM
I have a bunch of rings created. Unfortunately I do not leave my machines up and runnign during the day. If anyone wants them just PM me and I will give you the addr and time you can grab them. Lucky Luciano I believe also offered to host some. Nothing like Rage Againt the Machine - Know Your Enemy screaming out when you get a call.
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03-16-2005, 11:57 AM
Now if someone could just post a "javaloader -usb dir" to see if I can expect having new ringtones...
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03-16-2005, 12:37 PM
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Now if someone could just post a "javaloader -usb dir" to see if I can expect having new ringtones...
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I'm downloading JDK right now to check (have it at home, but I'm at work). I believe that the files are stored as .adp files tho. Since the bandwidth at my office is comparible to dial-up, it could be a while ;)
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03-16-2005, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Entropy666
I know this to not be a fact as long as your allowed to add .htaccess files to the directory in question you can add any MIME type you want even if you arent a webmaster. Not only that it is really simple to setup a simple directory structure that even blackberrys will love here let me break it down for you guys.
You create a text file and write in it these following things:
Options +Indexes
addType audio/adpcm adp
The first one allows you to browse the website folders contents and only that folder and the second one adds the mime types for adp simple as that. you can also add these two if you want to be able to upload Jar and Jad files to be able to do over the air downloads:
AddType text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor jad
AddType application/java-archive jar
HOPE THAT HELPS
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i'm willing to try this but i don't get what you are saying to do... you want me to create a text file with those 2 lines of text in it. then save it as a text file with what name? put i where? does it go in the same directory as the .adp file? if you could please give some more detailed instructions that would be great.
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03-16-2005, 01:01 PM
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i'm willing to try this but i don't get what you are saying to do... you want me to create a text file with those 2 lines of text in it. then save it as a text file with what name? put i where? does it go in the same directory as the .adp file? if you could please give some more detailed instructions that would be great.
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As long as your server is running apache, yes, create that file, name it .htaccess, and save it to the directory where your .adp files are stored.
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03-16-2005, 01:15 PM
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i'm willing to try this but i don't get what you are saying to do... you want me to create a text file with those 2 lines of text in it. then save it as a text file with what name? put i where? does it go in the same directory as the .adp file? if you could please give some more detailed instructions that would be great.
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Yeah you create a text file with those mime types described before and when you copy it over to the directory of your site you just rename it to .htaccess and it will work. Good luck
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03-16-2005, 01:17 PM
i can't even create a file called ".htaccess" i get the error must type a file name
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03-16-2005, 01:19 PM
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Yeah you create a text file with those mime types described before and when you copy it over to the directory of your site you just rename it to .htaccess and it will work. Good luck
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oh... let me try that... =)
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03-16-2005, 01:21 PM
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oh... let me try that... =)
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Thats why i mentioned you have to start it off as a text file and then once you transfer it to your server directory you rename it
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03-16-2005, 01:25 PM
yeah... i was typing and when i posted, the other post with the answer to my question was before mine... sorry about that... so i tried this and it didn't work... the file was essentially named .htaccess.txt is that right? if it is... then i guess my server isn't apache
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03-16-2005, 01:33 PM
doesn't seem like i can get this to work... i tried changing the name to .htaccess and still get the unsupported media type error... i'm using my schools webspace... if that helps anyone help me
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03-16-2005, 01:48 PM
only .htaccess not .htaccess.txt
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03-16-2005, 01:51 PM
Go to http://www.seoconsultants.com/tools/headers.asp
Type the address in the "Check Server Headers" field.
Click "Check Server Headers".
Check the value after "Server: "
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03-16-2005, 01:53 PM
Lucky has been kind enough to host some of the ones I've created thus far.... The difference is incredible.....
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03-16-2005, 03:12 PM
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i tried whatever that was ... and by the results it seems that the server is apache... but i still can't get it to work
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03-16-2005, 04:15 PM
this is a work in progress and if anybody has any other they want on i will be glad to put them up there. I made this as simple as possible just point your blackberry browser at
http://www.viraldesigns.com/ring/
enjoy and tell me if you have any requests
edit: Sorry guys was thinking there would be a bigger response well its up there
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03-16-2005, 04:25 PM
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this is a work in progress and if anybody has any other they want on i will be glad to put them up there. I made this as simple as possible just point your blackberry browser at
http://www.viraldesigns.com/ring/
enjoy and tell me if you have any requests
edit: Sorry guys was thinking there would be a bigger response well its up there
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cool how do we go about giving you stuff to stick up there?
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03-16-2005, 04:38 PM
awesome work guys! that was pretty simple. got a song in my phone within 15 min.
i have some web space i could spare if people need some help.
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