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Old 03-26-2008, 10:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Item: Blackberry 8320
Buyer or Seller? Seller
Was it Shipped? NO
As Described? who knows
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Price Sold For: $225
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I was trying to do a friend a favor and got mixed up with this freak. He has the nerve to 'issue a refund' that PayPal can't seem to recover because there is NO MONEY in the account. Thief and a liar. Stay FAR away.

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so then we talk over email-

From: [email address]
Date: March 8, 2008 9:15:02 PM EST
To: [email address]
Subject: Re: Curve-just saw your post on BBF

i have recieved the funds, i will prepare the package tomorrow, ups
will pick it up Monday. should be there wednesday 2 day air

On 3/8/08, Terita Murphy <terita.murphy@gmail.com> wrote:
Sent.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Nick Kuenzer" <nick.kuenzer@gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:08:46
To:terita.murphy@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Curve-just saw your post on BBF


my paypal is [email address]

just shoot me an email when you send

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Terita Murphy <terita.murphy@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sounds good. Thanks!
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Nick Kuenzer" <nick.kuenzer@gmail.com>



Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 17:52:52
To:terita.murphy@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Curve-just saw your post on BBF


that should be fine, as soon as payment is recieved i will end the
ebay auction and prepare to ship the item first thing tomorrow

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Terita Murphy <terita.murphy@gmail.com>
wrote:
Six now? Probably around 8:30. Let me know if this is ok.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Nick Kuenzer" <nick.kuenzer@gmail.com>



Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 17:47:49
To:terita.murphy@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Curve-just saw your post on BBF


what time will that be?

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Terita Murphy
<terita.murphy@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds good. I have to Paypal you when I get home (in a couple of
hours)
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Nick Kuenzer" <nick.kuenzer@gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 17:45:07
To:terita.murphy@gmail.com


Subject: Re: Curve-just saw your post on BBF


norfolk, va.. i can end the auction if you are interested

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Terita Murphy
<terita.murphy@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok. Where are you located? I'm in New York trying to estimate
shipping time.

------Original Message------
From: Nick Kuenzer
Sender:
To: [email address]

Sent: Mar 8, 2008 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Curve-just saw your post on BBF

Yes. never opened.

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Terita Murphy
<terita.murphy@gmail.com> wrote:
So none of the actual phone. Is it sealed in the box?
------Original Message------
From: Nick Kuenzer
Sender:
To: [email address]
Sent: Mar 8, 2008 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Curve-just saw your post on BBF

the only picture i have is the one on my eBay sale

Blackberry Curve 8320 - eBay (item 250223117095 end time Mar-09-08 18:06:19 PDT)

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Terita Murphy
<terita.murphy@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nick,

Do you have photos of the phone? Take paypal?

Thanks,

Terita
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so after he collected my money...I pop on eBay, and see this:



so of course I get antsy right?

From: "Nick Kuenzer" <nick.kuenzer@gmail.com>
Date: March 11, 2008 8:42:52 AM EDT
To: "Terita Murphy" <terita.murphy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Curve-No Response Yesterday

sorry terita, for some reason there is some problem with UPS here
locally, i have called them over the weekend and yesterday, i am goign
to the sstore here when it opens at 12. I will let you know by the end
of day

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Terita Murphy <terita.murphy@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nick,

I have not received a tracking number from you as promised, and it appears
that you didn't end the auction. In fact it looks as if someone won it.
Please advise.

Thanks,


Terita Murphy
[email address]

a day goes by, no package and no email. I went so far as to call the UPS stores in his area, and they were all open as usual for business, so I go to Paypal and file a dispute...and this is the response:

From: [email address]
Subject: Re: Curve
Date: March 11, 2008 10:37:49 PM EDT
To: [email address]

you can always re-open the dispute or start a new one, i just need it
so i can paypal UPS

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Nick Kuenzer <nick.kuenzer@gmail.com> wrote:
well i cannot print a shipping label with the dispute there, paypal won't let me



On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Terita Murphy <terita.murphy@gmail.com> wrote:
I will end the dispute when I receive the phone or a refund.

------Original Message------
From: Nick Kuenzer
Sender:
To: [email address]
Sent: Mar 11, 2008 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: Curve

sorry terita i have been really swamped with the work thing,
i will print your shipping label and ship tomorrow
you will need to resolve the dispute so that i can purchase the shipment.
you will immediately be provided with a tracking number...
Sorry for the delay

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Terita Murphy <terita.murphy@gmail.com> wrote:
I didn't receive a tracking number from you. Please advise.
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anyone else peep the blatant lie? I escalated to a claim and got this email from PayPal today:

From: [email address]
Subject: Resolution of Buyer Complaint Case # PP-436-261-677
Date: March 26, 2008 10:10:11 AM EDT
To: [email address]

Dear Terita Murphy,

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer
Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds in
question if they become available in the seller's account in the future and
will take appropriate action against the seller. Such action may include
issuing a warning, a temporary restriction, or terminating the account.
Keep in mind that PayPal uses a number of factors to determine when to take
action, including member complaints. Due to privacy laws, we cannot discuss
the details of any action taken. We hope you understand our policy and that
it assures you that you are safe using PayPal.


so friends, as it turns out, no good deed goes unpunished. stay far away from this dude he is a scam artist.
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry you had this problem... very unfortunate.

Buyers Beware, don't do business with anyone on THIS site or ANY site with ONE post.
Always ask for eBay or other reference if they have low posting here.
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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this is very true, unfortunately I live on the planet where people are honest and above board. unfortunately I seem to live there alone.
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
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this is very true, unfortunately I live on the planet where people are honest and above board. unfortunately I seem to live there alone.
I'm there too ... been burned a few times ... currently fighting $100 paypal issue now.
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I'm there too ... been burned a few times ... currently fighting $100 paypal issue now.
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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what makes it so bad is, after all this, come to find out, my boy went into the t-mobile store and bought a curve. so I was going to end up stuck with an extra phone anyways.
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Boy, that really bites. Sorry you went thru all that.

And didn't eBay just change their policy so that you are not able to leave bad feedback for a seller? Or is that no more bad feedback for a buyer?
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really, did they? What is the point of feedback, then?
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Boy, that really bites. Sorry you went thru all that.

And didn't eBay just change their policy so that you are not able to leave bad feedback for a seller? Or is that no more bad feedback for a buyer?
Huh wuh who when? Not that I know of ...
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Starts in May:

ABC News: Not Sold! eBay Boycott Kills Traffic

As part of this article:
"As of May, sellers will no longer be able to leave negative feedback comments for buyers. "

Terita - Did you pay via credit card? If so, have your credit card company dispute this for you.
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I have not heard of any such eBay policy change. Here is the text from their policy:

Feedback

Obviously, feedback would be worthless if either party were precluded from leaving a negative.

TeritaM - in my experience buying and selling on both eBay and Craigslist, I have found that most people are pretty honest. However, there are a decent number of dishonest people that really make me think twice before buying anything on either site. Although hindsight is always 20/20, the seller in this case had only 1 post on BBF, and had zero feedback on eBay. Call me a pessimist, but I would never have bought from this guy. I realize that anybody new to eBay is going to start with zero feedback, and most of those new people are going to be honest. I just don't want to be the one to test that out.

I hope PayPal is able to get some of your cash back for you. Good luck!
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Starts in May:

ABC News: Not Sold! eBay Boycott Kills Traffic

As part of this article:
"As of May, sellers will no longer be able to leave negative feedback comments for buyers. "

Terita - Did you pay via credit card? If so, have your credit card company dispute this for you.
wow; thanks.

YES HAVE YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY DISPUTE FOR YOU. That is what I am doing.
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Starts in May:

ABC News: Not Sold! eBay Boycott Kills Traffic

As part of this article:
"As of May, sellers will no longer be able to leave negative feedback comments for buyers. "

Terita - Did you pay via credit card? If so, have your credit card company dispute this for you.
We posted at the same time (above), so I guess the info that I linked to is soon to be outdated.

This is absolutely unbelievable!! I guess feedback will soon be worthless as against buyers.
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Sorry you had this problem... very unfortunate.

Buyers Beware, don't do business with anyone on THIS site or ANY site with ONE post.
Always ask for eBay or other reference if they have low posting here.
i never do business with anyone on eBay with fewer than 2 dozen positive reviews to every 1 negative. that seller has 0 feedback, and now i am guessing will cancel that ID (with the negative feedback) and create another.
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yeah juuwack, I called my credit card company and they are disputing it. I don't have to pay that portion of my bill (so far). its just the point though, why scam anyone? my own fault for thinking other people are like me. I think I'm officially over ebay/paypal.
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Sorry to here that. was this the same friend i was talking to who was looking at the 8800 also? Yeah i sell things on ebay but rarely buy anything. The reason being i only trust myself.
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I am always suspect of sellers on here whom are new and Have prices to good to be true
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Though I was able to get an 8800 for great deal at 125.00 was in awesome shape to!!!
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Sorry to here that. was this the same friend i was talking to who was looking at the 8800 also? Yeah i sell things on ebay but rarely buy anything. The reason being i only trust myself.
yeah, mel. I called him after I sent the paypal and he was all "yeah I just ended up going to the store and buying one." He told me you two spoke. I should have left it alone. trying to be helpful and got burned.
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eBay and Paypal are getting greedier everyday, and providing less services and protections to both sellers and buyers.

What's the point to have seller or buyers protections even we follow all the guidelines they asked? I though the protection is like a insurance that paypal provides for its users like the insurance that AAA has its policy holders. It is total BS that "we can't recover the fund from the seller..."

Better use credit card to purchase anything now, even thru paypal. Paypal is useless POS in this kind of matter.
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