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Old 07-10-2010, 01:08 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Any idea when 6.1 will be released to us non VIP members?
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Old 07-10-2010, 01:56 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 07-10-2010, 10:00 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I've cobbled together a nice mix of WillyBoy 6.1 and RB 2.2 - which is mostly based on 758 with a fair sprinkling of 5.2.0.9 and 6.0.0.31 files.

I'm definitely liking it. Smooth and stable, but I haven't been running it long enough to have an opinion on battery performance. There is a known issue with javascript not working on the browser - I haven't figured that one out yet (well, I have a very strong hunch which cod file is implicated, but I have a day job and I can't spend even more time reloading the OS every time one file is being goofy).
I hear RBs 2.3 is very good too but haven't been able to find that one.
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Old 07-10-2010, 10:45 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I hear RBs 2.3 is very good too but haven't been able to find that one.
2.3 is in beta. I've asked to be part of the beta group, but haven't heard back yet.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:14 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I laugh at all the VIP's who are the *paying* beta testers; they find the bugs so us non VIPs get the stable releases.
Do you also laugh at people who pay for software they can also obtain for free through pirated sources?

I rarely, if ever, post "flames" such as this, but do think it is a question of fairness in this case. These hybrid developers depend upon subscriptions and donations, and for the most part have "day jobs" like the rest of us.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:27 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Do you also laugh at people who pay for software they can also obtain for free through pirated sources?

I rarely, if ever, post "flames" such as this, but do think it is a question of fairness in this case. These hybrid developers depend upon subscriptions and donations, and for the most part have "day jobs" like the rest of us.
Wait..if they have day jobs then they don't "depend" on this at all. Can't have it both ways.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:08 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Wait..if they have day jobs then they don't "depend" on this at all. Can't have it both ways.
Yes, I understand that--for many software developers it is just a hobby, and for some it is additional needed income. (There are many people who need more than one day job in this economy to support their families.)

It is not our business why someone writes software and tries to sell it. We can only decide whether we want the software, and whether we want to buy it at the price offered. "Leaking" software that someone else has produced simply isn't fair. The copyright law at this level is unenforceable, to be sure. If one wants to use leaked, non-freeware software, fine, but to ridicule others for deciding to pay for it is very small-minded, IMHO. That was the point of my earlier post.
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Let's look at the whole picture. Hybrids including files from OS 6 are based on the same behavior that's being criticized here. Someone got hold of RIM's intellectual property and is distributing it. The fact that driphter's hybrid includes an alx file to incorporate the OS 6 files is of little consequence. The reality is that these hybrid packages are simply collections of cod files written by RIM. It seems rather suspicious that any economic benefit is derived from that conduct. Quite frankly, very few people truly understand intellectual property law.
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:27 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Let's look at the whole picture. Hybrids including files from OS 6 are based on the same behavior that's being criticized here. Someone got hold of RIM's intellectual property and is distributing it. The fact that driphter's hybrid includes an alx file to incorporate the OS 6 files is of little consequence. The reality is that these hybrid packages are simply collections of cod files written by RIM. It seems rather suspicious that any economic benefit is derived from that conduct. Quite frankly, very few people truly understand intellectual property law.
Everything you say is true as regards RIM's intellectual property, and if you look at what the hybrid compilers are doing, yes, they are on shaky moral (if not legal) ground in claiming any originality to their hybrids.

But--RIM is well aware of the leaks of "beta" collections of cod files, and I suspect they are even happy to get the free public beta testing on them. RIM doesn't really "sell" their OS versions--RIM sells Blackberry smartphones and services, and the OS versions aren't much good without the RIM phones, unlike, say, pirated software that will run on various types of smartphones or computers.

Now, as you say, the hybrid compilers are merely taking leaked versions of the RIM OS and making new ones. There is probably no intellectual property issue here, per se, although, again, RIM doesn't seem to be objecting to this process. If RIM were against it, the hybrid compilers are pretty much out in the open, and RIM could easily tell them to stop. On the other hand, the hybrid compilers feel there is some value added in their hybrids over the standard OS versions, and apparently some users agree with this and are willing to pay for the hybrids. It's completely voluntary--you can get the leaked RIM OS files for free, or you can choose to pay extra to get the tweaked versions early (later, they are free, anyway).

The only objection I had in this particular case was the contempt the original poster seemed to have for people who were being completely honest in paying for software they could have otherwise obtained for free on the Internet. I am not claiming that any crime, even minor misdemeanor, is being committed.
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willyboy v6.1 is now open to the public.
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:29 PM   #51 (permalink)
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hey guys I've been trying to install 6.1 for a while now but I can't seem to get it to run after shrinking the os and hit the launch button. Loader just says "no action required". any idea? thansk for your help
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Old 07-16-2010, 06:43 PM   #52 (permalink)
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hey guys I've been trying to install 6.1 for a while now but I can't seem to get it to run after shrinking the os and hit the launch button. Loader just says "no action required". any idea? thansk for your help
I had this prob too, in his instructions I didnt get the whole "install on top of 5.0.681"

You have to have the 5.0 in the folder and make the 6.1 install on top of it replacing the files. i have been running this for about 2-3 weeks. It's alot faster to me, other than that nothing that super but that web is faster too
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I had this prob too, in his instructions I didnt get the whole "install on top of 5.0.681"

You have to have the 5.0 in the folder and make the 6.1 install on top of it replacing the files. i have been running this for about 2-3 weeks. It's alot faster to me, other than that nothing that super but that web is faster too
My IHeart radio doesn't seem to run as well as it did before. Could just be me but it was running great before the upgrade. I'm thinking about going back this weekend.
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Actually, this was meant to install on top of .743, not .681.

http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=1560.0

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Old 07-18-2010, 01:05 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Actually, this was meant to install on top of .743, not .681.

Willyboy 9700 v6 .732/.743/.758/.6.0.0.31
The build for the 9000 is meant to install on top of .681.
So, really depends what phone you have.
Checkout the download page, I think Willyboy have pretty good instruction there.
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Old 07-18-2010, 07:50 PM   #56 (permalink)
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For those that installed the leaked v6.1 Willy, definitely install the PUBLIC release Willy v6.1, which has changed from the leaked version.

Download (9700 v6.1 Public): http://driphter.com/index.php?action...ownfile&id=783

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For those that installed the leaked v6.1 Willy, definitely install the PUBLIC release Willy v6.1, which has changed from the leaked version.

Download (9700 v6.1 Public): http://driphter.com/index.php?action...ownfile&id=783
I think there was a memory leak or something in 6.1. When I play IHeart for about 45 minutes it will stop playing and force me to do a battery pull. I just downgraded and the problem went away.
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The build for the 9000 is meant to install on top of .681.
So, really depends what phone you have.
Checkout the download page, I think Willyboy have pretty good instruction there.
Yeah, you're right. I am forgetting I'm not in a 8700 thread here.
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I think there was a memory leak or something in 6.1. When I play IHeart for about 45 minutes it will stop playing and force me to do a battery pull. I just downgraded and the problem went away.
My problem with IHeart wasn't caused by this OS. I wiped my device and loaded .743 and have the exact same problem. Just wanted to apologize and let others know this wasn't my problem.
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let us know when 6.2 gets public, or even 6.3
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