RIM do not be so greedy !

[NewBoldAddict]

Greetings to all Blackberry addicts,

Everyone of us ,especially people who have owned many cell phones, know that RIM makes its phones from the WORST and cheapest materials. In contrast, RIM's phones are among the most expensive ones.

No doubt that Blackberries have the best OS, which is written in Java, among all smartphones. Still, the build and price factor are very important. If you buy a Bold or 8900 for 500$ and one day slips off your hand, you will understand what I'm saying. The entire device will disassemble, crashes and stops working. All RIM's devices are built using light cheap plastic and paintings. Two to Three falls are enough to damage a Blackberry!!

I'm wondering how greedy and stupid RIM is!!!

RIM thinks that they are spreading all over the world. But the reality is that they will suddenly shrink due to their greedy policy.

Many Blackberry users in the U.S. stopped buying RIM's phones 2 years ago because of the defect that was exist in almost all curve's trackballs.


In conclusion, if RIM continues to use the same materials, they will fail in four of five years from now.

[Midnightdraven]

I think this deserves to be in the rants and raves forum.

[juwaack68]

I'd like to exist in your alternate universe, but I lost my map.

[synenergy52]

Sorry but having owned over 50 Blackberry devices I have not encountered any of these problems. Maybe you should stop playing football with your phone.

Fact is RIM dominates the market, namely first quarter of 2009. Leave the phones up to them and you worry about buying them (as it appears you already have).

Originally Posted by NewBoldAddict

Greetings to all Blackberry addicts,

Everyone of us ,especially people who have owned many cell phones, know that RIM makes its phones from the WORST and cheapest materials. In contrast, RIM's phones are among the most expensive ones.

No doubt that Blackberries have the best OS, which is written in Java, among all smartphones. Still, the build and price factor are very important. If you buy a Bold or 8900 for 500$ and one day slips off your hand, you will understand what I'm saying. The entire device will disassemble, crashes and stops working. All RIM's devices are built using light cheap plastic and paintings. Two to Three falls are enough to damage a Blackberry!!

I'm wondering how greedy and stupid RIM is!!!

RIM thinks that they are spreading all over the world. But the reality is that they will suddenly shrink due to their greedy policy.

Many Blackberry users in the U.S. stopped buying RIM's phones 2 years ago because of the defect that was exist in almost all curve's trackballs.


In conclusion, if RIM continues to use the same materials, they will fail in four of five years from now.

[synenergy52]

Source? I haven't seen one yet. A lot of these "defects" are people complaining about their trackballs sticking and simply call their carrier to get a warranty exchange when they could of cleaned it out themselves.


There are so many flaws in your "argument," that I really don't have the time to go into each and everyone. Good luck
[quote=NewBoldAddict;1410231]

Many Blackberry users in the U.S. stopped buying RIM's phones 2 years ago because of the defect that was exist in almost all curve's trackballs.
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[ifonline]

*Sigh*

Someone must be bored to start this thread...

[TXLady]

Or just trying to get a good argument started. It's not even worth it. I think the OP should buy an iPhone.

[ndub33]

Moving to Rants and Raves section.

[juwaack68]

Freakin RIM!

[NJBlackBerry]

Freakin stupid and greedy RIM.

Oh my.

Too many for MFTP. Oh well.

[ndub33]

LO Freakin' L

[ifonline]

This thread calls for a quote:

It's an important and popular fact that things are not always what they seem. For instance, on the planet Earth, Man had always assumed that he was the most intelligent species occupying the planet, instead of the *third* most intelligent. The second most intelligent creatures were of course dolphins who, curiously enough, had long known of the impending destruction of the planet earth. They had made many attempts to alert mankind to the danger, but most of their communications were misinterpreted as amusing attempts to punch footballs or whistle for titbits. So they eventually decided they would leave earth by their own means. The last ever dolphin message was misinterpreted as a surprisingly sophisticated attempt to do a double backward somersault through a hoop while whistling the star-spangled banner, but in fact the message was this: So long and thanks for all the fish.

[dankarlinski]

Wirelessly posted (MY 8900)

My .02

Blackberries are made from plastic... Most are other than the iphone. The berries have some of the best screens on mobile phones. They may be lacking all of the features In some devices (3g, camera, wifi, etc), but this is chanhge from device to device based on expected carrier.

Rim has the best push email of a mobile device, the most stable os. And the devices are much easier to fix than other devices. Also, they have long lasting, REMOVABLE batteries (unlike other fruits)


It seems like a good buy for my money... Correct me if I'm wrong

[daphne]

BlackBerry devices are actually more rugged than many others. We've had users who've dropped devices, dunked them in swimming pools, had them fall off on the road and the BlackBerrys survived nicely and continued to work normally. But if you are concerned about your BlackBerry being damaged, use a good quality protective case and you will sleep better and your blood pressure will be lower.

[CoDudette]

oh my, RIM, what have you done?! Cheap plastic parts! *shock horror*

I dropped my bold 6 times already since i got it, and as far as i can see, its in PERFECT condition. NOT a scratch.

get a hard case for your bold. or do you like to leave your bold unprotected? like i've said before, unprotected berries are asking for trouble. tsk tsk.

[Dawg]

Ive carried over ten different BBs and I find them all rather rugged. Ive never broken a screen or a casing. I dont use any sort of screen protector or case. I have many scratches ( I call them battle scars) due to use and abuse. My wife carrys dumb phones and isnt nearly as rough as i am with them and shes broken way more phones than i ever have.

I think you need to get a grip on reality

[NewBoldAddict]

Originally Posted by juwaack68

I'd like to exist in your alternate universe, but I lost my map.

You don't have to

Originally Posted by synenergy52

Sorry but having owned over 50 Blackberry devices I have not encountered any of these problems. Maybe you should stop playing football with your phone.
Fact is RIM dominates the market, namely first quarter of 2009. Leave the phones up to them and you worry about buying them (as it appears you already have).

I do not like sports except fishing. And "50" is too much! LOL


[quote=synenergy52;1410284]Source? I haven't seen one yet. A lot of these "defects" are people complaining about their trackballs sticking and simply call their carrier to get a warranty exchange when they could of cleaned it out themselves.
There are so many flaws in your "argument," that I really don't have the time to go into each and everyone. Good luck
[quote=NewBoldAddict;1410231]

If you have not seen , it means you don't read news. Anyway to make your life easier check crackberry's archive.

Originally Posted by ifonline

*Sigh*
Someone must be bored to start this thread...

In fact, when I'm bored, I do something else

Originally Posted by TXLady

Or just trying to get a good argument started. It's not even worth it. I think the OP should buy an iPhone.

that's the only phone that I don't like. Sorry

Originally Posted by ndub33

Moving to Rants and Raves section.

Good !

Originally Posted by dankarlinski

Wirelessly posted (MY 8900)

My .02

Blackberries are made from plastic... Most are other than the iphone. The berries have some of the best screens on mobile phones. They may be lacking all of the features In some devices (3g, camera, wifi, etc), but this is chanhge from device to device based on expected carrier.
Rim has the best push email of a mobile device, the most stable os. And the devices are much easier to fix than other devices. Also, they have long lasting, REMOVABLE batteries (unlike other fruits)
It seems like a good buy for my money... Correct me if I'm wrong

I already mentioned that Blackberry has the best OS. Buy eye glasses my friend. Of course a battery or screen is not made of plastic. I hope you are OK.

Originally Posted by daphne

BlackBerry devices are actually more rugged than many others. We've had users who've dropped devices, dunked them in swimming pools, had them fall off on the road and the BlackBerrys survived nicely and continued to work normally. But if you are concerned about your BlackBerry being damaged, use a good quality protective case and you will sleep better and your blood pressure will be lower.

"rugged than many others." Be clear and give some brands

Originally Posted by CoDudette

oh my, RIM, what have you done?! Cheap plastic parts! *shock horror*
I dropped my bold 6 times already since i got it, and as far as i can see, its in PERFECT condition. NOT a scratch.

get a hard case for your bold. or do you like to leave your bold unprotected? like i've said before, unprotected berries are asking for trouble. tsk tsk.

I think you dropped it on your pillow LOL. I'm not talking about cases I guess but the device.




No one has provided a logical answer! Please do not be biased.

[TXLady]

Originally Posted by NewBoldAddict

Please do not be biased.

Of course, you aren't.

[SteveO86]

Is that why RIM Q1 results (and for the last 2 years) have been good/on the raise.

I am curious as why you even bothered with thread... were are the facts????

My agency moved from WinMo to BB's a year ago (along with many of my personal friends), so I don't see how BB is dissappearing.

I've dropped my BB's many many times and they still work, perfectly.

[mriff]

Go find one of these models. It was a tank.

[SteveO86]

lol

[penguin3107]

Originally Posted by NewBoldAddict

I do not like sports except fishing.

Fishing is a sport? ;)

[juwaack68]

Wirelessly posted (My blond BlackBerry)

As much as golf is a sport

[JSanders]

The OP is just plain ignorant, and from his post here in this thread, exceptionally so.

[ifonline]

Originally Posted by NewBoldAddict

No one has provided a logical answer! Please do not be biased.

First off, no one has provided a "logical" answer because your original rant was twaddle, as your follow-up was nonsensical.

Nevertheless, I will add my latest experience as of last night. I pulled my BlackBerry Bold from my pocket (it is not in any kind of protective case and there is no screen protection) and immediately dropped it. I threw my foot out in some sort of bizarre reaction that can only be called Riverdance. The Bold clipped the tip of my toe, and I let out an argh that alarmed my girlfriend enough that she thought I was falling over. Despite my best efforts to the contrary, the Bold launched off my big toe and hit the concrete garage floor with a sickening thud. The battery door went one way, the battery another, and the remains of the Bold slid across the concrete. Ever heard nails drug across a chalkboard? Yeah... it was that bad.

I didn't move. I didn't want to, because I didn't want to see what was left. My girlfriend picked up the pieces and handed them back to me. I checked the battery door and it was fine. No scratches, no scuffs, no dings or dents. I checked the battery. It too was fine, although it did show some scratches and scuffs from hitting the concrete.

And then I checked the Bold. Long story short, the screen is perfect and shows no signs of damage at all. The keys are all intact and completely undamaged. The mid-plate is ever so slightly scuffed from the concrete. The only significant damage is the chrome bezel. The upper right front corner is scuffed to the point that it is black, and there are some smaller scuffs (down to the black plastic) scattered about the bezel. All in all, the Bold faired extremely well, and I am very, very pleased with the outcome.

Granted, I would be happier if it wasn't scuffed at all, and even happier still if I hadn't dropped it and done my best Michael Flatley impression.

Flash back two weeks, and my girlfriend did the exact same thing to her Bold, except she didn't throw a spastic leg out in a futile attempt to catch it like a hacky sack player. Her BlackBerry hit full force on a concrete sidewalk. Same outcome where the only damage was to the chrome bezel. Heck, her Bold faired better than mine did!

So, to wrap up... two Bolds, two drops, two pleasant outcomes. I can only conclude from my own experiences that the Bold is manufactured very well, and is a sturdy device worthy of my ownership.

Now I'm off to take dance lessons. Good day to you.

[Flight714]

One of the sales reps in my district drops his BB Pearl on the ground as part of his sales pitch. Now, if (or when) that thing breaks, he's going to look like a moron, but so far he's been pretty good at selling RIM product. I wouldn't do that with a Storm, but I think they make a fairly solid phone overall. If you want to talk about price, look at what the Omnia or just about any HTC goes for on MRSP compared to a Blackberry.
The best part was the "In conclusion..."

[ifonline]

And it will break, certainly, after repeated abuse, as would virtually anything else... I suppose a block of steel would survive repeated abuse such as this, but as I understand it, they aren't so good for making phone calls.

For the OP to qualify these devices an generally cheap to the point that RIM will fail as a company is just plain imbecilic.

[ArgonNJ]

I agree they feel cheap, but they do hold up. I've dropped many and never had a problem.

[NewBoldAddict]

Originally Posted by mriff

Go find one of these models. It was a tank.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/...20065cc2_o.jpg

LOL

Originally Posted by JSanders

The OP is just plain ignorant, and from his post here in this thread, exceptionally so.

I do not think so

Originally Posted by ifonline

First off, no one has provided a "logical" answer because your original rant was twaddle, as your follow-up was nonsensical.

Nevertheless, I will add my latest experience as of last night. I pulled my BlackBerry Bold from my pocket (it is not in any kind of protective case and there is no screen protection) and immediately dropped it. I threw my foot out in some sort of bizarre reaction that can only be called Riverdance. The Bold clipped the tip of my toe, and I let out an argh that alarmed my girlfriend enough that she thought I was falling over. Despite my best efforts to the contrary, the Bold launched off my big toe and hit the concrete garage floor with a sickening thud. The battery door went one way, the battery another, and the remains of the Bold slid across the concrete. Ever heard nails drug across a chalkboard? Yeah... it was that bad.

I didn't move. I didn't want to, because I didn't want to see what was left. My girlfriend picked up the pieces and handed them back to me. I checked the battery door and it was fine. No scratches, no scuffs, no dings or dents. I checked the battery. It too was fine, although it did show some scratches and scuffs from hitting the concrete.

And then I checked the Bold. Long story short, the screen is perfect and shows no signs of damage at all. The keys are all intact and completely undamaged. The mid-plate is ever so slightly scuffed from the concrete. The only significant damage is the chrome bezel. The upper right front corner is scuffed to the point that it is black, and there are some smaller scuffs (down to the black plastic) scattered about the bezel. All in all, the Bold faired extremely well, and I am very, very pleased with the outcome.

Granted, I would be happier if it wasn't scuffed at all, and even happier still if I hadn't dropped it and done my best Michael Flatley impression.

Flash back two weeks, and my girlfriend did the exact same thing to her Bold, except she didn't throw a spastic leg out in a futile attempt to catch it like a hacky sack player. Her BlackBerry hit full force on a concrete sidewalk. Same outcome where the only damage was to the chrome bezel. Heck, her Bold faired better than mine did!

So, to wrap up... two Bolds, two drops, two pleasant outcomes. I can only conclude from my own experiences that the Bold is manufactured very well, and is a sturdy device worthy of my ownership.

Now I'm off to take dance lessons. Good day to you.

Good Tester! However, don't you think your reply is too detailed?LOL

Originally Posted by Flight714

One of the sales reps in my district drops his BB Pearl on the ground as part of his sales pitch. Now, if (or when) that thing breaks, he's going to look like a moron, but so far he's been pretty good at selling RIM product. I wouldn't do that with a Storm, but I think they make a fairly solid phone overall. If you want to talk about price, look at what the Omnia or just about any HTC goes for on MRSP compared to a Blackberry.
The best part was the "In conclusion..."

Are you trying to say that Blackberries have better build materials than HTC !!!!?

Originally Posted by ifonline

And it will break, certainly, after repeated abuse, as would virtually anything else... I suppose a block of steel would survive repeated abuse such as this, but as I understand it, they aren't so good for making phone calls.

For the OP to qualify these devices an generally cheap to the point that RIM will fail as a company is just plain imbecilic.

Abuse!! what are you talking about?

Originally Posted by TXLady

Of course, you aren't.

No

Originally Posted by penguin3107

Fishing is a sport? ;)

Yes, it is. And if not, we can consider it since all sports are added and categorized by humans

Originally Posted by ArgonNJ

I agree they feel cheap, but they do hold up. I've dropped many and never had a problem.

The only non-biased and logical answer so far

[penguin3107]

Is anyone else starting to feel bad for this guy?

[JSanders]

Yes, but I do enjoy the entertainment.

[juwaack68]

I still don't have a map.

[SteveO86]

Originally Posted by NewBoldAddict

The only non-biased and logical answer so far

That's only because he sorta agreed with you...

Originally Posted by penguin3107

Is anyone else starting to feel bad for this guy?

Yes, very much so.. He will not stop till someone agrees with him so should we all just say he is right and walk away????

Originally Posted by JSanders

Yes, but I do enjoy the entertainment.

Ditto

You know for a Bold Addict (as your name implies) you really seem too happy with it...

[ifonline]

Originally Posted by NewBoldAddict

Good Tester! However, don't you think your reply is too detailed?LOL

That is the best you have for a response? Really? No comment on how my experience counters your claims that the devices are cheap? Nothing but a comment on the detail of my reply?

This is obviously not a discussion for you... You are not looking to carry on a conversation with others, but are instead trying to get people worked up. You are quite possibly the most insanely idiotic person I have ever had the displeasure to attempt conversation with. I have had shouting matches with more depth than this.

Therefore, I must return to my original comment that you must be bored to have started this thread so I can make an amendment:

*Sigh*

Someone has to be a moron to start this thread...

[mriff]

Originally Posted by penguin3107

Is anyone else starting to feel bad for this guy?

Absolutely. But it's like watching a train wreck. Can't turn away.

[Flight714]

Are you trying to say that Blackberries have better build materials than HTC !!!!?

This is turning into a Michael Bay trainwreck.

Here, I'll sum up my point in a nutshell: Blackberries generally cost less than HTCs and some other smartphones when you buy them without a contract....AKA MSRP.

[CoDudette]

I think you dropped it on your pillow LOL.

if my pillow is a concrete floor then ok, i did drop it on my pillow.

you went on and on about how cheap the parts are etc etc.

you got a very nice and detailed reply from one of the members.

Then you go and laugh and say he's written a detailed reply.

IF we just agree and tell you, like Steve has mentioned, then will you be satisfied?
DO you think that our experiences of dropping our phones and having no problems with them except for a few scuffs and scratches isn't good enough to prove your point? if one of the members did have a nasty experience they'd share with you wouldn't they? what do they have to hide?
i do think you're just trying to provoke people into agreeing with you. if you don't like the way a phone is made, then don't use it. simple. Use something which asthetically appeals to your liking.


In a nutshell, what tree did you fall from? or were you just dropped on your head when you were a baby?

[Johnny909]

Originally Posted by juwaack68

Wirelessly posted (My blond BlackBerry)

As much as golf is a sport

okay fine

[bullguy]

leave him alone.... he had nighmare with rim i guess

[wabbit]

Originally Posted by NewBoldAddict

If you buy a Bold or 8900 for 500$ and one day slips off your hand, you will understand what I'm saying. The entire device will disassemble, crashes and stops working.

and dropping an iphone, a htc, a nokia, and any other phone is different?

yeh i can understand dropping a portable plastic device on concrete they break. hence why care should be taken while operating them.

hey did you know, if you run over a cell phone/smart phone and other electronic product they break. heck if my 50 pioneer kuru falls off the wall you think it will be in one ?