Blackberry Crappy Memory

[princeali123456]

I got my first BB (8830WE) from Sprint and I love it!! Only thing is the internal memory is very low. It is supposed to be 96MB (WHich is minuscule anways by Todays standards). However, I can only see 7 MB left, ha?? I only added few apps like Telenav and google maps, and few links (CNN, Facebook, ESPN, etc...) and a couple of images totalling 300kb. I did add a 4 GB SD card but this is NOT the same (Can not used for apps, call logs, text, etc..)

What the heck, it's like buying a 20 GB computer with OS occupying 19 of them!!

BTW: I have no sample videos, images, music files, etc... Just the default ringtones!

Is it really low memory or the device is just not reading the available file space correctly?? HELP HELP HELP!

[NJBlackBerry]

http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...ee-memory.html

[princeali123456]

Oh! C'mon! I don't have to go through John Clark's 50 pages post to increase my memory from 7 MB to 10!!! Besides, I like most of everything Sprint put on my device and don't want to delete them.
I'm talking like Iphone kind of memory! Why can RIM make these GREAT devices with 4/8/16/or even 32 GB??

[NJBlackBerry]

Send it back. Get an iPhone.

[princeali123456]

Or put some pressure on RIM to put more memory in their devices!

I don't want an Iphone (AT least until I can get it from Sprint)

[daphne]

Moved to Rants and Raves

[NJBlackBerry]

Tell Sprint to get some new devices. My BlackBerry 8900 has more free applications memory that the 8830 in total. The newer devices DO have more memory. Plenty of it. But not the 8830.

[pshift]

Are you sure that your 8830 is 96MB, instead of 64MB?

[princeali123456]

Not really sure. How can I tell? I'm a newbie to this!

I guess when I get home i'll hook it up to my PC and see if I get memory representation better!

[NJBlackBerry]

The 8830 is 64mb. The 8330 is 96mb.

[SteveO86]

John Clarks memory thread is mainly the first post.... Not all 15 pages.. Take time and do something, it will pay off in the long run.. I got 24MB free on my 8830.. Could of had more but I didn't want to remove Voice Activated Dialing.

[jeremyckitching]

I recommend returning the 8830 and waiting for the BlackBerry 9630. Sprint is said to be releasing it on 7/12. It has 256MB internal app memory.

[CoDudette]

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry

My BlackBerry 8900 has more free applications memory that the 8830 in total. The newer devices DO have more memory. Plenty of it. But not the 8830.

Agreed!
I had the 8100 before my 9000, and i had to do a battery pull pretty much every day because of poor internal memory.

now with my 9000, i have enough free memory.. sometimes stays at 24mb by the end of the day.. and my battery pulls are less frequent.

[SteveO86]

Newer devices do have alot more memory then the existing.... however people were using the older BB's just fine..

Memory on the 8830 is manageable, but the question is do you want to manage, the 9630 comes out in 2 weeks... I swap out then...

[princeali123456]

My BB8830 talked to me first thing this morning! Told me that I'm running dangerously low on memory (less than 1 MB) and I need to increase the memory by removing unused languages support. I follow the setup wizard to do so and also removed documents to go, help, and brickbreaker. My memory went up to 15 MB. I hate to take the battery off daily too boost the memory because my I just returned an old (1 week) 8830 because of a loose battery cover.
Anyway, like I said before the 8830 is a great device but the memory thing is driving me nuts! RIM ought to be working on a solution for it,

BTW: I'm not replacing my device with 9000 series anytime soon. The reason I upped with Sprint was because my wife lost her old phone and Sprint would charge us $400 cancellation fee to end the contract (And get Iphones)

[NJBlackBerry]

Press ALT CAP DEL to reboot the BB without removing the battery.

RIM has a solution. The new BBs have much more memory.

[princeali123456]

I also learned few simple trick that has kept my 8830 memory above 16 MB. Some of them have been listed here but some aren't, please forgive the redundancy:

Delete unused Languages
1. Go to Options >> Advanced Options >> Applications
2. Scroll to and highlight the unused languages
3. Press the menu key and select Delete
Note: When prompted to restart select No until all of the unused languages are deleted.
4. Once all languages are deleted, remove battery for 30 seconds and re-boot the device

Clear Cache and Cookies in Browser (This definitely helped a lot because I used to lose tons of memory everytime I surf the web for few minutes)
1. Go into the Browser application and press the menu key
2. Select Options >> Cache Operations
3. Select Clear History
4. You can also clear out Pushed Content and Cookie Cache from here

Clear Cache and Cookies
1. Scroll to and select the Browser or Media Net icon.
2. Press the Menu key.
3. Select Options.
4. Select Cache Operations.
5. Select Clear History.
6. Note: Clear History will no longer appear once it has been selected.
7. Hard Reset the BlackBerry.

[princeali123456]

One very important thing I forgot,
DO NOT USE the escape button to leave an application, use CLOSE instead. If you use ESCAPE, the application will keep running and the memory leak will continue (Especially things with Browswer, google maps and latitude)

[NJBlackBerry]

You can't close the browser; it is ALWAYS running in the background.

[juwaack68]

Gosh, those tips look a lot like the ones listed in John Clark's memory management thread.... *shrugs*.

[NJBlackBerry]

Not the very same thread found in post #2 here, is it?
Gosh.

[juwaack68]

Oh, well if one was to read the entire thread, starting with the first one....

[princeali123456]

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry

You can't close the browser; it is ALWAYS running in the background.

YES you can! At least on my 8830

[NJBlackBerry]

OK. So now hit the Menu button (twice) and select Switch Application

Does the browser show up in the list?

[princeali123456]

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry

OK. So now hit the Menu button (twice) and select Switch Application

Does the browser show up in the list?

It does not mean it's open.

When you do switch applications, your browser will be on the list no matter what (Along with Home screen, messages, and call logs). That does not mean it's open!
If you don't hit the close button but instead you escape or hit end call button after a browser session it will remain opened. When you "Switch" to it, it will immediately open at the default page or whatever page you left it at (Because it was not closed, it was like minimized). If you hit the close button, THEN do the switch application you will see that your browser RESTARTS or relaunched. You will see the Blackberry Opening screen, and things like REQUESTING, LOADING, or the same startup shebang of an internet browser. Try it!!

[jsconyers]

I'm fairly positive NJBB knows how it works .

The switch application screen will show all applications that are currently running. The Browser is indeed running, but you're right, Menu Key > Close will close out of whatever page you're viewing. This could save battery life and prevent memory leaks depending on what kind of page you were viewing. However, the Browser never "closes" so to speak.

[princeali123456]

Originally Posted by jsconyers

I'm fairly positive NJBB knows how it works .

The switch application screen will show all applications that are currently running. The Browser is indeed running, but you're right, Menu Key > Close will close out of whatever page you're viewing. This could save battery life and prevent memory leaks depending on what kind of page you were viewing. However, the Browser never "closes" so to speak.

Gee! That is a devout love for NJBB I hope my wife loves me that much!!
I know I'm a newbie and he is a retired moderator. But try to reopen your browser from the "Switch to" screen once after you have CLOSEd it and once after you have ESCAPEd out it. Tell me the difference!

[jsconyers]

I believe I agreed with you on that point. You will "close" out of your active page. But you will not "close" the browser. Also, to make things a little easier for you, you don't have to press Menu > Close to close your current page, you could press AND hold the escape key and it will give you the same results.

[princeali123456]

Thanks for the tip! I like that just like holding a letter key for a sec to get "UPPERCASE"

[NJBlackBerry]

There are five applications that are always active. Even if you "escape" or "close" them. They are still active in the background. At a minimum you will see

Phone, Browser, Home, BlackBerry Messenger and Messages

They are always active.

[jacobsaa]

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry

Send it back. Get an iPhone.

That's a lousy response NJBlackBerry. Lousy. Sure we all like Blackberries, but when they screw up, they screw up and the OP is dead on with this post. It's a joke that RIM keeps stiffing their users with bad memory and choices between which few applications we want on the phone.

I fully understand that this is a business phone first, however, after all these models, you think they would have been able to correct this clear pitfall.

[jacobsaa]

Originally Posted by CoDudette

Agreed!
I had the 8100 before my 9000, and i had to do a battery pull pretty much every day because of poor internal memory.

now with my 9000, i have enough free memory.. sometimes stays at 24mb by the end of the day.. and my battery pulls are less frequent.

24mb of memory is awful though. Sure you can add a couple of apps without worrying about bottoming out, but wouldn't you feel better with a couple of gigs, at least?

[NJBlackBerry]

jacobsaa - I think you should send a note to as they would be able to help you get a couple of gigs.

While you are at it, notice that the OP has an 8830WE, which by my count is 3 generations old. Times have changed. How much memory is on your Bold, or my 8900. A bit more than the 8830, right?

[jacobsaa]

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry

jacobsaa - I think you should send a note to as they would be able to help you get a couple of gigs.

While you are at it, notice that the OP has an 8830WE, which by my count is 3 generations old. Times have changed. How much memory is on your Bold, or my 8900. A bit more than the 8830, right?

A bit more, yes . . . a bit. Your blind defense of RIM's crap-stained memory is laughable - a traveshamockery, really. Notice too that in my post prior to your weak stand up comedy routine, I responded to a poster that was praising the bold for having free application memory in the low 20mb range. That's weak. Terrible and quite frankly pathetic when a phone has 32GB and sits next to it in the line of hot products. Are you really pleased with the plethora of memory, NJ, or are you waist deep and pot committed in the fight to praise RIM and protect their image at all costs? Their memory is old hat, and it's time they make strides to give the devices the memory and choice the customers that are lining their pockets deserve.

[NJBlackBerry]

As I said, if you are unhappy with the product, choose something else like an iPhone. On my 8900, with many applications installed, I have over 100mb free. If someone has a Bold with 20mb free, they should follow the memory clean up steps, as they likely have many unused themes, ringtones and possibly languages filling up their precious memory.

Don't make yourself look bad. Or is that too late?

I have no vested or financial interest in Research in Motion. I like their products, have used them appropriately for many years, have had MANY complaints about them, and still am somehow able to struggle by.

traveshamockery. Uh huh.

[jsconyers]

I hope I brought enough popcorn for everyone.

[NJBlackBerry]

Nah - I'm done. This is adding nothing to the thread.

[jacobsaa]

Wirelessly posted (What's up, Billy?)

Me too. I appreciate NJ and his many contributions to the forums, really. He is a valuable resource. I just want Blackberry as competative as possible. I'd never switch to the iphone, but in some ways, they're better. NJ I extend a hand and an olive branch.

[scaevola]

I've deleted everything possbile (VAD, themes, wall papers) on my bold and I boot at like maybe 18mb ~16 after everything boots.(Yes I quite a few apps installed but I use them all!)

I hate it ...a 9000 1gb chip onboard...I *WISH* they would just allocate more to APP Memory and solve all of my lifes problems.

It's a shame there they didn't not add the kind of app memory a tour has retroactively to the bold...
<cry>

[SteveO86]

Wow exactly how many apps you got?

Have you ever used an 8830??