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Cavi Mike · 07-10-2009, 02:56 PM

I still don't see any war, BlackBerry still sells twice as many PDAs than Apple. Is that really a war?

blue_and_gold · 07-10-2009, 03:23 PM

I guess its not a war... I like to think of it as one

LunkHead · 07-10-2009, 05:03 PM

I like Apple(s) but only the green ones... Never been a fan-boy of the red....

PlatMan · 07-11-2009, 07:51 AM

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I like Apple(s) but only the green ones... Never been a fan-boy of the red....

I like yellow myself.

dualsub2006 · 07-12-2009, 02:21 PM

I gotta say that the copy and paste that Apple invented for the iPhone/iPod Touch is MUCH easier to use than my Pearl or my daughters Curve. It may have taken a while to get here but it works really well.

PlatMan · 07-14-2009, 01:10 PM

iPhones are kewl afterall, even though cut and paste is funny!

MidnightDraven · **OS:** 4.6.0.291

as far as i see, the only thing iphones cut and paste can do that bb's cant is the map thing.
which is like how often you gonna do that?

dualsub2006 · 07-14-2009, 10:55 PM

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as far as i see, the only thing iphones cut and paste can do that bb's cant is the map thing.
which is like how often you gonna do that?

Yes, the Blackberry has copy and paste. It isn't this easy. Well, maybe it is on a Storm. I've never even seen one. On the devices that most Blackberry owners have, it isn't this easy.

Apple - iPhone - Cut, copy, and paste text and photos on iPhone.

The part that I really like is shake to undo.

JSanders · 07-15-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dualsub2006

Yes, the Blackberry has copy and paste. It isn't this easy. Well, maybe it is on a Storm. I've never even seen one. On the devices that most Blackberry owners have, it isn't this easy.

lol, what? Copy/Cut and paste is incredibly simply on the BlackBerry... moreso simple on the Pearl, Bold, Curves, etc., than even the Storm.
Perhaps you just aren't using it correctly.

ArgonNJ · 07-15-2009, 02:20 AM

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lol, what? Copy/Cut and paste is incredibly simply on the BlackBerry...

Have to agree with you on that one.

dualsub2006 · 07-15-2009, 10:48 PM

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lol, what? Copy/Cut and paste is incredibly simply on the BlackBerry... moreso simple on the Pearl, Bold, Curves, etc., than even the Storm.
Perhaps you just aren't using it correctly.

Hold shift, roll ball, release, menu key, copy -> menu key, paste. That's not as easy as tap, expand, copy -> tap, paste.

It's not like I said it was hard. It's just easier (for me, there I said it) to do it on the Touch.

wabbit · **OS:** 4.2.2.194

Apple demanded Microsoft to stop its Laptop Hunters ads - Ars Technica

PlatMan · **Re: 3GS iPhone -** 07-16-2009, 06:43 AM

Dang, I have to eat my words.

I just got the new White 32GB Apple iPhone 3GS and the screen is MUCH more responsive and quick then the 1st Generation iPhones I once had. It seems at this point it may last, or at least last longer then the originals did after they were used awhile. MUCH better than ALL the other touch screen devices out there in the market. The BB Storm's touch screen is one of the worst, being you actually push on the screen and the screen moves some. Yuk!

As far as the cut an paste goes, nice added feature but is still funny or kind of a joke.

Overall I like the 3GS version and this may be the 1st touch screen device I will end up liking, keeping, and using ..... time will tell though in the long run.
IF it does start to fail or act up like ALL other touch screen devices eventually do, then I will be back with Sprint again using my Red BlackBerry Curve 8330m and the Tour.

studum · 07-16-2009, 10:54 AM

I'll say it...

Realistically the only reason I have a blackberry is because I like to feel the buttons. Pinning is a bonus because a ton of my friends have a BB but its not a deal breaker for me.

monkeypaw · **OS:** 4.5.0.124

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The best part is when Apple does something that other companies have been doing for years and all of the Apple fanboys treat it like it's a breakthrough.

BB should really take a clue from this and start advertising the best features like email. I mean things like getting hotmail, yahoo, gmail, etc. instantly. IM clients for the same.

I would have bought a BB years before if I had known what BIS does. With over half of new users on BIS last quarter, they really have to think consumer awareness.

dualsub2006 · 07-19-2009, 09:29 AM

The other REALLY nice thing about the copy/paste that Apple invented is the ability to change your selection after you have made it. If I need to expand or contract a selection I just pull the top or the bottom of the selection and it is changed. I can't find a way on a BB to change the selection without starting over.

ArgonNJ · 07-19-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dualsub2006

The other REALLY nice thing about the copy/paste that Apple invented is the ability to change your selection after you have made it. If I need to expand or contract a selection I just pull the top or the bottom of the selection and it is changed. I can't find a way on a BB to change the selection without starting over.

The Apple method is nice, but going back and starting over using the BB method really isn't that difficult, nor a big deal.

kurichan · **OS:** 5.0.0.230

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As has been said, you guys hammer on the fact that the iPhone didn't have copy and paste and now you hammer on it because it does.

I could frankly care less either way, but it doesn't seem to me that people are hammering on the fact that the iPhone HAS c&p, rather, how it's been portrayed.

kurichan · **OS:** 5.0.0.230

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The SD card slot is just a weak complaint.

<< kidding, right? Troll?

ArgonNJ · 07-19-2009, 04:41 PM

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<< kidding, right? Troll?

It is a weak complaint, considering you can get an iphone with 32g. Does the BB even support that much? Also I've owned several BBs and know many other people that do too and none of them ever remove the media card once it's installed, if they even install one at all. So yes, it is a very weak argument.

kurichan · **OS:** 5.0.0.230

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It is a weak complaint, considering you can get an iphone with 32g. Does the BB even support that much? Also I've owned several BBs and know many other people that do too and none of them ever remove the media card once it's installed, if they even install one at all. So yes, it is a very weak argument.

You really don't get it do you? Some people just set their minds and get tunnel vision.

But you'll find out when you get your iPhone. You don't have control of what's in memory and you cannot remove the memory to manipulate it on your PC.

It's a huge problem, so it's not a weak argument.

dualsub2006 · 07-19-2009, 09:50 PM

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<< kidding, right? Troll?

I'm no more a troll than you are.

dualsub2006 · 07-19-2009, 09:54 PM

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You really don't get it do you? Some people just set their minds and get tunnel vision.

But you'll find out when you get your iPhone. You don't have control of what's in memory and you cannot remove the memory to manipulate it on your PC.

It's a huge problem, so it's not a weak argument.

I absolutely do have control of what is in memory. I am loading PDF and DOC files right now for use tomorrow. Copying them over via USB. I could mess with my music files if I felt like it, but iTunes has that covered.

If you had one actual clue about the iPhone/iPod Touch as opposed to knowledge you gained from reading what others have written you might have a point. In this instance it is rather clear that you don't know what a huge problem even is.

ArgonNJ · 07-20-2009, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kurichan

You really don't get it do you? Some people just set their minds and get tunnel vision.

But you'll find out when you get your iPhone. You don't have control of what's in memory and you cannot remove the memory to manipulate it on your PC.

It's a huge problem, so it's not a weak argument.

Talk to me when you get a clue.

wabbit · **OS:** 4.2.2.194

actually i would agree with kurichan,

to put files on an iphone vs a sd card is about 100 times more work then anything else,

even to add ring tones to an iphone is a project,

its not simple. and the fact that itunes wont allow raw files copy is also a bummer. since now to sync 2 things you need a itunes, b a 3rd party app to copy a file to an iphone.

or go with option c and jailbreak it (god know what else the jailbreak does past installing cydan(sp) and installer.

way too irritating then simple oh look a 30sec mp3 lets drag it to ringtones, but itunes dont accept ring tones in mp3 so now you have to convert them, then move them, then delete the mp3s out of the library. (pain the ass) tho itunes will do this, its a pain.

as for raw files 3rd party paid/free apps exist, still a pain. its not a storage space, its for "app/itunes" store junk or mp3s. the device is in lack of words annoying to sync to past music/apps/all the stuff thats not in itunes.

Meyefull · 07-21-2009, 11:28 AM

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these threads are pointless, people who ultimately think their product is perfect for them will not listen to any dissenting opinions. It goes both ways - if your happy then good for you, but thats just you.

Thats exatly it, I was reading through this post and thought,hmm,how pointless this is. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. For one to try and CONVINCE someone else that their phone is better is pointless. It just WORKS BETTER for you at this point...So please save time and dont talk about this. Some like the Iphone,some like the BB, why try to say which one is better,its only better for YOU.

Johnny909 · **OS:** 4.5.0.124

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Thats exatly it, I was reading through this post and thought,hmm,how pointless this is. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. For one to try and CONVINCE someone else that their phone is better is pointless. It just WORKS BETTER for you at this point...So please save time and dont talk about this. Some like the Iphone,some like the BB, why try to say which one is better,its only better for YOU.

So, I guess we're all bozos on this bus, or what.

ArgonNJ · 07-21-2009, 11:44 AM

Wabbit, I agree with you 100% on ringtones and the iphone. Adding ring tones is far easier on the BB then the iphone. Why the hell don't they just use mp3.

dualsub2006 · 07-21-2009, 09:41 PM

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to put files on an iphone vs a sd card is about 100 times more work then anything else,

iPhone/iPod Touch. Application is open on device. Hit shortcut on desktop and storage pops up via WiFi. No cords, no SD card to plug in to computer.

Select file, drag, drop.

100x harder? Seriously? Bogus and clueless claim.

I use QuickOffice which is a 3rd party app just like Docs to Go on the BB is. Even if you were right and it were 100x harder to get files on and off of the device QuickOffice is a delight to use. Even better on a 3.5" touch screen.

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even to add ring tones to an iphone is a project,

I don't do ring tones so I really could care less about how hard or not it is. MP4's work for me.

I would comment on the rest of what you wrote but frankly I can't make heads or tails of what you are trying to say.

kathrynhr · **OS:** 5.0.0.328

I vote vodka. Too many fanbois.

wabbit · **OS:** 4.2.2.194

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Originally Posted by dualsub2006

iPhone/iPod Touch. Application is open on device. Hit shortcut on desktop and storage pops up via WiFi. No cords, no SD card to plug in to computer.

Select file, drag, drop.

100x harder? Seriously? Bogus and clueless claim.

you lost me at applications. since i really have no clue what you're talking about

this is what i mean.

i have a file, a .lol file, that i want bring to lets work, and i dont want to burn a cd, dvd, take a flash drive, sd card etc,
there is no simple way to put that file on the phone. when the phone is synced to a desktop, it is read only. its tedious and really too much effort to make it like my other devices where its read/write. yes i do know 3rd pc apps do this, but then again, its a pain.

test54 · 07-23-2009, 09:50 AM

wabbit i know what your saying but there are plenty of apps for what you are talking about. I use air sharing - easily drag and drop files over wifi.

wabbit · **OS:** 4.2.2.194

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wabbit i know what your saying but there are plenty of apps for what you are talking about. I use air sharing - easily drag and drop files over wifi.

i was just saying its not simple or native to the device.

test54 · 07-24-2009, 09:22 AM

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i was just saying its not simple or native to the device.

100% true.

dualsub2006 · 07-24-2009, 08:33 PM

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i was just saying its not simple or native to the device.

You are absolutely wrong. It is horribly simple to transfer files.

wabbit · 08:13 AM

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i was just saying its not simple or native to the device.

You are absolutely wrong. It is horribly simple to transfer files.

The iPhone or itouch do not allow native mass storage mode which is what is the definition of native.

Yes 3rd party apps will do this. Yes 3rd party software will do this.

No. The iPhone or itouch will not not allow it by default.

dualsub2006 · 07-25-2009, 03:10 PM

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The iPhone or itouch do not allow native mass storage mode which is what is the definition of native.

Yes 3rd party apps will do this. Yes 3rd party software will do this.

No. The iPhone or itouch will not not allow it by default.

I didn't say that it was native, I said that it is horribly simple. HOW it gets on the device is not at all important to MOST people that aren't looking for some fault to pick on. The fact that the ability IS there with the right application and that it is SIMPLE to use does matter.

It is HORRIBLY simple to get my DOC, XLS and PDF files onto and off of my device. The fact that it isn't native does not make one bit of difference to me at all.

Mattywalnuts · **OS:** 4.5.0.138

Apple announced this week that they are working on a tablet. Welcome to 2009.

I do own an Apple computer, so calm down all you iPhone Phanatics.

PlatMan · 08-01-2009, 10:42 AM

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.......so calm down all you iPhone Phanatics.

Okay, I'm calm.

Hauser · 10-03-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PlatMan

I just got the new White 32GB Apple iPhone 3GS and the screen is MUCH more responsive and quick then the 1st Generation iPhones I once had. It seems at this point it may last, or at least last longer then the originals did after they were used awhile. MUCH better than ALL the other touch screen devices out there in the market.

I had the same reaction, as a platform (hardware and software) the iPhone has come incredibly far in a very short time, and by implementing features like copy/paste, MMS, voice dialing, Exchange support, push email (for certain accounts like MobileMe and Gmail) etc., Apple has really invalidated a lot of the iPhone's early criticism.

Apple is clearly working on bringing BES-style functionality to the device starting with individuals (MobileMe) and households/small businesses (OS X Server), it will be interesting to see if they pursue the strategy upwards into the enterprise with a full-on BES competitor. Meanwhile RIM seems content to roll out device after device in every possible form factor while letting their software platform languish; 5.0 is hardly an earthshaking update and is still not here after all this time.

Very frustrating!