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Old 07-28-2009, 12:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core: Official Google Voice App Blocked From App Store

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Earlier today we learned that Apple had begun to pull all Google Voice-enabled applications from the App Store, citing the fact that they “duplicate features that come with the iPhone”. Now comes even worse news: we’ve learned that Apple has blocked Google’s official Google Voice application itself from the App Store. In other words, Google Voice — one of the best things to happen to telephony services in a very long time — will have no presence at all on the App Store.

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Google Voice scares the carriers. It allows users to send free SMS messages and get cheap long-distance over Google Voice’s lines. It also makes it trivial to switch to a new phone service, because everyone calls the Google Voice number anyway.
So, to get any GV functionality on an iPhone, you must jailbreak the phone.

Lucky for the iPhone community, one of the GV apps' developers has planned to put his version of the GV app up online for free:

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Old 07-28-2009, 12:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So here's my question: if this is an AT&T thing, i.e. AT&T doesn't want people sending free text messages or making cheap/free long distance calls through GV, bypassing AT&T's detection and billing... then why are AT&T Blackberry users able to use the app? Is it just a case of them not being able to adequately police the installation and use of BB apps?

I'm ignorant about what the carriers can/can't see us do.
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I guess I am happy NOT to be with AT&T
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So here's my question: if this is an AT&T thing, i.e. AT&T doesn't want people sending free text messages or making cheap/free long distance calls through GV, bypassing AT&T's detection and billing... then why are AT&T Blackberry users able to use the app? Is it just a case of them not being able to adequately police the installation and use of BB apps?

I'm ignorant about what the carriers can/can't see us do.
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Apple and ATT are so worried about people jail breaking their phones. Well crap like this is the reason people are doing it.
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have to agree with this whole bad apple thread.
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Old 07-29-2009, 12:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Maybe I am just extremely cynical towards apple products - but would this not be more of an apple issue?

Apple has always been extremely (pronounced zealously) proprietary and is notorious for blocking access to products, services and/or applications that it does not have total control over.


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Maybe I am just extremely cynical towards apple products - but would this not be more of an apple issue?

Apple has always been extremely (pronounced zealously) proprietary and is notorious for blocking access to products, services and/or applications that it does not have total control over.


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No, this is all ATT. Apple had nothing to lose with the Google app, ATT did.
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No, this is all ATT. Apple had nothing to lose with the Google app, ATT did.
Not according to this article.

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That is exactly what I am saying. This has always been apple's MO. Any thing that that is not absolutely proprietary to their product and their product alone - they attack with a legal slash and burn mentality.


Interesting how their argument went from the catastrophic crashing of cell towers to - "well drug dealers would like it"



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I was talking about the Google app here, not jail breaking. Having the Google voice app sold through the Apple store running would not have affected Apple. It was ATT revenue stream that was at stake here. By removing the app, they are forcing some to do the very thing, jail breaking, that Apple and ATT fear.
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I read the article in the NY Times this morning, and found it hilarious how there blackberry users can get it but the iphone can't. I am a verizon user and I have the storm which, I love for Business use,the iphone my friends have just can't compare in business usage, or the service. AT&T service cuts out everywhere. My friend had 3G but no bars when we were in the mountains. So he could look at his Facebook, but not make a call.

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I was talking about the Google app here, not jail breaking. Having the Google voice app sold through the Apple store running would not have affected Apple. It was ATT revenue stream that was at stake here. By removing the app, they are forcing some to do the very thing, jail breaking, that Apple and ATT fear.
the att claim is by a blog with no proof. the apple hold solid proof that its apple that denied it not att. fanbois will claim its att. in reality its apple.

it fits apple motto.

bottom line it don't really matter it just shows that past a 99c or free app its not worth even developing for the platform, since time/money investment means nothing when they say no.

hopefully the up and coming android zii, will have a way better approval, oh wait its open you can get apps from anywhere, then apples nazi approval methods.
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After reading several articles and blogs, I agree with those who blame Apple. Their decision to lock their platform and delivery system down so tightly is now backfiring on them. They've provided a way for themselves to act like Big Brother, and now their carrier is demanding access to those abilities. Apple now looks very bad - and deservedly so - for not telling AT&T no.

As far as the carrier goes, in this case it's AT&T, but would it be any different if any other carrier were at the helm and saw a product coming along that

(a) threatened their existing business model, and
(b) would be implemented over their own infrastructure, and over their objections,

if they had a method to prevent all that sitting right in front of them? I really can't imagine Sprint, Verizon or T-Mobile would behave differently. From locking down ringtones to forcing people to buy themes and wallpapers (!) through an inefficient and painful proprietary catalog, I think all 4 carriers have consistently tried to control as much as they were able to on all of our phones.

And here's Apple, providing AT&T with an easy way to protect the status quo by refusing to say no to their anticompetitive demands.
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the only problem is, att needs apple not the other way around.

i would agree with that att, blocked if it blocked the blackberry version also, they didn't

out of there subscriber base, maybe what? 5% is iphones?

its an apple call not an att call. only thing att would lose is at most text msg. voice is still over a call fwd.
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the only problem is, att needs apple not the other way around.

i would agree with that att, blocked if it blocked the blackberry version also, they didn't

out of there subscriber base, maybe what? 5% is iphones?

its an apple call not an att call. only thing att would lose is at most text msg. voice is still over a call fwd.
Could ATT block it on the Blackberry?
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Could ATT block it on the Blackberry?
there network, there data stream, yes. they could block the streams, maybe not prevent people from installing it onto a blackberry, but functionality they can most def block.

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They block everything. We all knew they would block it so that's why you jailbreak your phone. Takes care of everything & it's easy. The end.

PS. The Storm Is STUPID
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They block everything. We all knew they would block it so that's why you jailbreak your phone. Takes care of everything & it's easy. The end.

PS. The Storm Is STUPID
so, trusting a hacker to do justice is the answer for functionality. or fairness? interesting.

the whole apple crowd puzzles me with this.

they put up with apple's crap due to a hacker, which by definition is not a helpful person but, cyber criminals.
very interesting perspective.

i would only imagine if microsoft did this to windows people would cry bloody murder, but for apple, its ok we got hackers that do good!

anyway. too funny. i like that comment, go just install this app which nobody has a clue what it does. yeh this is really an answer. and people are puzzled why identity theft, and other crimes are so high.

too funny.
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Apple and ATT are so worried about people jail breaking their phones. Well crap like this is the reason people are doing it.
+1. Although I do like AT&T, this has been a practice of the Apple Brand for their entire existence. I am not all that broken up about it though. Although I wrote in another thread that Google Voice isn't for me, I'll side with Google over Apple any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
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