Forum courtesy

[Xaneth]

You know, I find the forum a little hard to swallow at times. My main problem lies in a couple of areas. I read a thread earlier, "Hating My Blackberry" found here, and closed:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/rant...lackberry.html

The moderator jumped the guy straight off the bat. He had some valid complaints, and the moderator jumped him saying that "Lol, you are showing your ignorance about the subject."

Of course the guy is ignorant of BB, that's why he's out here. Wow, what a warm welcome to the forums. I thought the premise of this forum was to help newbies understand why BB is better than any other PDA solution out there, not to jump them because they have limited experience! To give credibility to the moderators, juwaack68, put it into MUCH better perspective by replying with some tips, and places to get started. JSanders continued to rag on the guy. A bunch of people jumped on the ragging bandwagon thinking that slinky came out to "bash" the BB. His title was a little obscure, but he wasn't "bashing" he just didn't understand that BB is NOT a PDA, it's a BB. Rather than trying to make the BB fit the mold of a PDA, someone needed to explain that you have to conform to the PDA. A couple of people did state that BB isn't for everyone, and it's true, though it is the leader and stable as hell. The point here is that this forum, and many of its moderators could use to be more courteous, and not attack people as they come in.

I remember my first experience here. I had a BES question and tried posting a screen shot, but the forum would not let me because I hadn't "contributed" enough. So I posted 10 times so I could shed some light on the issue I was having and immediately got bashed by moderators. Not sure what's wrong with the people who run this board, but it's pretty blatant. Maybe there is some truth to "crackberry", and people are going through information withdrawals. A little too many "control freaks" out here that have to be right all the time, constantly finding out how they can be right and anyone else can be wrong. I see that sort of juvenile, egotistic behavior at the work place as well, and usually the ones that "have to be right" all the time, are the ones that end up with a foot in their a** in the end, standing there looking like the fool the entire time they rant around.

The moderators should have moderators.

[Xaneth]

And don't get me wrong, there's a lot of good information out here, but people's attitudes need to calm down a bit and be more helpful, rather than vindictive.

[Dawg]

Originally Posted by Xaneth

You know, I find the forum a little hard to swallow at times. My main problem lies in a couple of areas. I read a thread earlier, "Hating My Blackberry" found here, and closed:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/rant...lackberry.html

The moderator jumped the guy straight off the bat. He had some valid complaints, and the moderator jumped him saying that "Lol, you are showing your ignorance about the subject."

Of course the guy is ignorant of BB, that's why he's out here. Wow, what a warm welcome to the forums. I thought the premise of this forum was to help newbies understand why BB is better than any other PDA solution out there, not to jump them because they have limited experience! To give credibility to the moderators, juwaack68, put it into MUCH better perspective by replying with some tips, and places to get started. JSanders continued to rag on the guy. A bunch of people jumped on the ragging bandwagon thinking that slinky came out to "bash" the BB. His title was a little obscure, but he wasn't "bashing" he just didn't understand that BB is NOT a PDA, it's a BB. Rather than trying to make the BB fit the mold of a PDA, someone needed to explain that you have to conform to the PDA. A couple of people did state that BB isn't for everyone, and it's true, though it is the leader and stable as hell. The point here is that this forum, and many of its moderators could use to be more courteous, and not attack people as they come in.

I remember my first experience here. I had a BES question and tried posting a screen shot, but the forum would not let me because I hadn't "contributed" enough. So I posted 10 times so I could shed some light on the issue I was having and immediately got bashed by moderators. Not sure what's wrong with the people who run this board, but it's pretty blatant. Maybe there is some truth to "crackberry", and people are going through information withdrawals. A little too many "control freaks" out here that have to be right all the time, constantly finding out how they can be right and anyone else can be wrong. I see that sort of juvenile, egotistic behavior at the work place as well, and usually the ones that "have to be right" all the time, are the ones that end up with a foot in their a** in the end, standing there looking like the fool the entire time they rant around.

The moderators should have moderators.

I think you are way wrong slinky came in here like a bat out of hell and he was promptly fed what he was dishing out.

And for the record this should have been in the rants and raves section..

[Xaneth]

You're entitled to your opinion, and so is slinky. This post belongs wherever the moderators end up moving it to, but forum courtesy truly belongs under the general section of the forum, since it does affect all.

[murpheous]

If you think this forum is brutal, I can provide you a few links for reference.

This site is about as nice as an internet forum gets

[Xaneth]

Interesting, it should be about BB for BB by BB. Who gives a crap about brutality? You shouldn't have to come out to a forum defending oneself when you have questions, ignorant or not. I guess it just goes to prove that some people don't have lives.

[johnfromphilly]

Originally Posted by Xaneth

You know, I find the forum a little hard to swallow at times. My main problem lies in a couple of areas. I read a thread earlier, "Hating My Blackberry" found here, and closed:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/rant...lackberry.html

The moderator jumped the guy straight off the bat. He had some valid complaints, and the moderator jumped him saying that "Lol, you are showing your ignorance about the subject."

Of course the guy is ignorant of BB, that's why he's out here. Wow, what a warm welcome to the forums. I thought the premise of this forum was to help newbies understand why BB is better than any other PDA solution out there, not to jump them because they have limited experience! To give credibility to the moderators, juwaack68, put it into MUCH better perspective by replying with some tips, and places to get started. JSanders continued to rag on the guy. A bunch of people jumped on the ragging bandwagon thinking that slinky came out to "bash" the BB. His title was a little obscure, but he wasn't "bashing" he just didn't understand that BB is NOT a PDA, it's a BB. Rather than trying to make the BB fit the mold of a PDA, someone needed to explain that you have to conform to the PDA. A couple of people did state that BB isn't for everyone, and it's true, though it is the leader and stable as hell. The point here is that this forum, and many of its moderators could use to be more courteous, and not attack people as they come in.

I remember my first experience here. I had a BES question and tried posting a screen shot, but the forum would not let me because I hadn't "contributed" enough. So I posted 10 times so I could shed some light on the issue I was having and immediately got bashed by moderators. Not sure what's wrong with the people who run this board, but it's pretty blatant. Maybe there is some truth to "crackberry", and people are going through information withdrawals. A little too many "control freaks" out here that have to be right all the time, constantly finding out how they can be right and anyone else can be wrong. I see that sort of juvenile, egotistic behavior at the work place as well, and usually the ones that "have to be right" all the time, are the ones that end up with a foot in their a** in the end, standing there looking like the fool the entire time they rant around.

The moderators should have moderators.

I could not disagree with you more. This is the best forum I have been associated with and I think it is because of the moderators. If you are on here enough you will see the junk they have to wade through every day and keep it all straight.

Hit the "new posts" button once in awhile and you will notice the volume of posts is huge. All is not pefect here or anywhere but I think the mods here keep it a great place to share info in a quick and benefitial way.

My 2 cents....thanks

[Xaneth]

Originally Posted by Dawg

I think you are way wrong slinky came in here like a bat out of hell and he was promptly fed what he was dishing out.

And for the record this should have been in the rants and raves section..

The way people rant on this forum, all posts should be in the rants and raves section...

[cwosigns]

Originally Posted by Xaneth

I guess it just goes to prove that some people don't have lives.

Case in point...

[Xaneth]

Originally Posted by johnfromphilly

I could not disagree with you more. This is the best forum I have been associated with and I think it is because of the moderators. If you are on here enough you will see the junk they have to wade through every day and keep it all straight.

Hit the "new posts" button once in awhile and you will notice the volume of posts is huge. All is not pefect here or anywhere but I think the mods here keep it a great place to share info in a quick and benefitial way.

My 2 cents....thanks

I'll have to agree that it is laid out very well, and is fairly easy to search and get answers from. A lot of useful sticky's and the FAQ section is great. I'm talking about the actions and words of the moderators, not the layout. I'm also aware that they have to deal with a lot of idiots, and tact should take care of that.

[Pizzle]

I'm sure you'll find me too abrasive for offering criticism, but the thread you point out involved no interest in getting help. It was simply a thread to bash a product many on here feel strongly about, in a positive way. His title wasn't "obscure". It was blatant. Attack us fanboys, and you're likely to get a bit of venom in return. Approach the fine people of this forum with a bit of respect for the product we love, and you're likely to find that we share in some of the same frustrations.

And for the record, your issue with 10 posts is a safeguard against spam and BS being posted on here before we can get to it.

Approach a situation/question/problem with professionalism, and you'll be treated the same. The opposite typically yields a different response.

But either way, like Slinky, you have an opportunity to voice your opinion. Noted. And moving to Rants and Raves, because "General Blackberry Discussion" is designed for General Blackberry Issues. Yours is with the site and its members. Not a handheld.

***Moving to Rants and Raves***

[Xaneth]

Originally Posted by cwosigns

Case in point...

Oh, I'm just having fun, it's funny to see how upset people get over here at good ole crackberryforums.com!

[Dawg]

Originally Posted by Xaneth

You're entitled to your opinion, and so is slinky. This post belongs wherever the moderators end up moving it to, but forum courtesy truly belongs under the general section of the forum, since it does affect all.

Like I said Rants and Raves.

[Xaneth]

Originally Posted by Pizzle

I'm sure you'll find me too abrasive for offering criticism, but the thread you point out involved no interest in getting help. It was simply a thread to bash a product many on here feel strongly about, in a positive way. His title wasn't "obscure". It was blatant. Attack us fanboys, and you're likely to get a bit of venom in return. Approach the fine people of this forum with a bit of respect for the product we love, and you're likely to find that we share in some of the same frustrations.

And for the record, your issue with 10 posts is a safeguard against spam and BS being posted on here before we can get to it.

Approach a situation/question/problem with professionalism, and you'll be treated the same. The opposite typically yields a different response.

But either way, like Slinky, you have an opportunity to voice your opinion. Noted. And moving to Rants and Raves, because "General Blackberry Discussion" is designed for General Blackberry Issues. Yours is with the site and its members. Not a handheld.

***Moving to Rants and Raves***

Thanks for the move. So you're saying that you don't have captcha in place for attachments? Interesting... I haven't gotten one piece of spam on any of my forums...

[Xaneth]

This is starting to get a bit off topic. I didn't see anything wrong with his post. It sounded like he missed his Palm, boo hoo. Welcome to the world of BB, a much more stable, solid device that does everything that it's INTENDED to do. People have to adapt to it, not the other way around. The only way I'm giving up my BB is when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. I'm just saying that we could have pointed him in the direction of what the BB does do, and does well.

[Pizzle]

We don't have anything to do with how the Forum is set up. If you have issue with coding, you're welcome to talk to Guess, who is the Admin of the forum, and welcomes PMs and e-mails with suggestions.

But it's obvious this topic is designed to be right, get attention, and try to get a rise out of everyone, so to try to suggest to you anything on here is done properly will likely fall on deaf ears. My apologies that your experience here has not been stellar. We'll welcome you back should you decide to return.

[Xaneth]

I'm not only a BES admin, I'm a crackberry addict like the rest of you.

[Xaneth]

I think I mentioned in an earlier post that, that, being right, is on most everyone else's agenda that I've seen out here. I don't claim to be right.

[Xaneth]

Originally Posted by Pizzle

We don't have anything to do with how the Forum is set up. If you have issue with coding, you're welcome to talk to Guess, who is the Admin of the forum, and welcomes PMs and e-mails with suggestions.

But it's obvious this topic is designed to be right, get attention, and try to get a rise out of everyone, so to try to suggest to you anything on here is done properly will likely fall on deaf ears. My apologies that your experience here has not been stellar. We'll welcome you back should you decide to return.

I'm just trying to get my 10 posts, so I can post images, ha!

[Xaneth]

Sorry, but you guys crack me up.

[JSanders]

Xaneth, I will respond, since obviously your comments were, in large part, pointed at me. I was not a moderator at the time I made that post. If you read that thread's original post, again, you will notice that user never asked a question or for help, his post was just what he titled his thread as "Hating my BlackBerry". That poster continued to belittle myself and others throughout the thread (even when I did make suggestions and tips to make it for him) until it finally had to be closed.

I won't defend myself to deep here, this i