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Thumbs down Selective Censorship Sucks - 08-26-2007, 04:15 AM

This site censors on post for so called "profanity", even though, VBullentin censors profane words out. They delete post at will, and leave, basically the same kind of language in other "in peoples" post. I realize I'm prolly gonna get banned but....sensorship is WRONG.

Just delete my account, sensorship SUCKS!


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Thumbs down 08-26-2007, 04:41 AM

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Default 08-26-2007, 05:03 AM

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This site censors on post for so called "profanity", even though, VBullentin censors profane words out. They delete post at will, and leave, basically the same kind of language in other "in peoples" post. I realize I'm prolly gonna get banned but....sensorship is WRONG.

Just delete my account, sensorship SUCKS!
People cuss and that's a fact of life. I personally could care less if someone cussed on here, but keeping the site professional and business-friendly are two very important goals of the moderation team. I will be the first to admit that I've cussed now and again on here, although that does not come anywhere close to portraying my use of various cuss words on a daily basis in real life. Regardless, rules are rules ...sometimes you slip up and sometimes we have people who have made it a point to seek out someone and slam them with inappropriate language. I believe that's usually when it becomes an issue.

Also worth noting, we do not monitor every word that is posted to this forum. It's not possible. If someone reports your thread or someone attacks someone with language worthy of a soap-bar breakfast, then action will be taken.

Lastly, in vBulletin's Censorship Options, it defaults to Disabled and has no words listed in the Censored Words field. I've been administering vBulletin forums for almost a decade and not once has vBulletin censored words without being configured to do so.
   
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Default 08-26-2007, 05:21 AM

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People cuss and that's a fact of life. I personally could care less if someone cussed on here, but keeping the site professional and business-friendly are two very important goals of the moderation team. I will be the first to admit that I've cussed now and again on here, although that does not come anywhere close to portraying my use of various cuss words on a daily basis in real life. Regardless, rules are rules ...sometimes you slip up and sometimes we have people who have made it a point to seek out someone and slam them with inappropriate language. I believe that's usually when it becomes an issue.

Also worth noting, we do not monitor every word that is posted to this forum. It's not possible. If someone reports your thread or someone attacks someone with language worthy of a soap-bar breakfast, then action will be taken.

Lastly, in vBulletin's Censorship Options, it defaults to Disabled and has no words listed in the Censored Words field. I've been administering vBulletin forums for almost a decade and not once has vBulletin censored words without being configured to do so.
The problem is not the cursing, it's the SELECTIVE CENSORING, in the same thread too!

btw...I never cursed any way, U won't find the word I said in ANY dictionary. BS

I kow VBulletin has to be configured, I Admin at 2 sites. But I tried a few words and I got "P****", instead of what I really wanted to say.


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Default 08-26-2007, 06:05 AM

Tom has enabled the censored words options for obvious reasons. As for you not cursing, I still have access to the post that was deleted. Substituting an 'o' for a 'u' in a certain F-word is certainly cursing in most people's books, not to mention ending that particular sentence with the lengthy B-word. So perhaps your idea of cursing and mine differ slightly? Nothing else posted in that thread by any other member of this forum was inappropriate.

And in all honesty, I will guarantee you that 'selective censorship' does not take place on this forum. Perhaps certain people do something to catch the watchful eye of the moderation team and then it appears that there would be something along those lines going on (macmel, for example). I do not know of a single member of the leadership team who actively gives special treatment to 'preferred' forum members - simply put, there's no such status on this forum.

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Default 08-26-2007, 09:00 AM

And selective sensorship is truly an awful thing. Those sensors are everywhere.
   
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Default 08-26-2007, 09:09 AM

Low, since you chose to take this public (I sent you a very polite warning, which means very little and next to nothing). Take my PM as it was intended, as a friendly warning. Your response to this now and your accusation fo "selective sensorship" says more than I can.

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Default 08-26-2007, 09:09 AM

Yeah, I deal with sensors, too. When they are erratic, it sure is a pain in the rear. ........ Too funny.


EDIT: Second thoughts....Sorry to make light, Low.............the word play pushed my funny button.


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Default 08-26-2007, 09:10 AM

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Tom has enabled the censored words options for obvious reasons. As for you not cursing, I still have access to the post that was deleted. Substituting an 'o' for a 'u' in a certain F-word is certainly cursing in most people's books, not to mention ending that particular sentence with the lengthy B-word. So perhaps your idea of cursing and mine differ slightly? Nothing else posted in that thread by any other member of this forum was inappropriate.

And in all honesty, I will guarantee you that 'selective censorship' does not take place on this forum. Perhaps certain people do something to catch the watchful eye of the moderation team and then it appears that there would be something along those lines going on (macmel, for example). I do not know of a single member of the leadership team who actively gives special treatment to 'preferred' forum members - simply put, there's no such status on this forum.
So, piss isn't bad, but fo** is? bs


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Default 08-26-2007, 09:12 AM

Lowrider, why not just try all the words you want, and see what gets you banned.

Or use good judgement and don't.

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Low, since you chose to take this public (I sent you a very polite warning, which means very little and next to nothing). Take my PM as it was intended, as a friendly warning. Your response to this now and your accusation fo "selective sensorship" says more than I can.

Enjoy the forums, you are welcome here.
This is my final post on this subject.

I don't mind the PM, it's the deletion of my whole post. That is selective censorship!
CLOSE THIS IF U WANT, i WON'T LOOK AT THIS AGAIN, SO ANOTHER RESPONSE IS LIKE TALKING TO THE WALL!


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Default 08-26-2007, 09:17 AM

Good.

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awww someone got there feelings hurts


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Default 08-26-2007, 10:47 AM

Censorship does produce some amusing results though.

My wife works for a large international NGO and my emails to her get censored all the time. For example as a hobby we raise purebred bull terriers. There is a proper name for female dogs . . . the b word. Try and use that perfectly proper word to refer to a girl dog and it's gets caught in there severs filters all the time. You can't even use it on some dog fancier forums!!! There are other examples as well, but they escape me at this time.


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Wow. It sounds like this place just might be better off without you.


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CLOSE THIS IF U WANT, i WON'T LOOK AT THIS AGAIN, SO ANOTHER RESPONSE IS LIKE TALKING TO THE WALL!
I want a new law....

Anyone who post here will talk to the wall....
   
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Who gave Beastie an iPhone???? Oh...... SD......
   
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Who gave Beastie an iPhone???? Oh...... SD......
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!


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I shot soda out my nose when I noticed it.....

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Love it Love Love it!!! The avatar, that is!

sorry, back on topic....
   
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Default 08-26-2007, 02:33 PM

I hadn't even seen the post in question, and if I had run across it I would have likely deleted it as well. Purposely attempting to get around the censors in the forum is the same as posting the actual word, in my book. I've seen these "misspellings" on other words that don't even get automatically censored but folks know they shouldn't post the actual word, anyway, and that doesn't bother me too much.

Please keep the board professional. I've said this before when this issue has come up....This board's professionalism is what brings the knowledgable folks here who post valuable information for all of us. If it gets too unprofessional, those folks won't return and we are all left wondering when the next 8120 is coming out, or how to get wifi working on our 8320. However, if they leave, those folks post that info on another site, our members go over there for that info, and our site gets fewer hits. Fewer hits means less $$ to keep the site running....Pretty soon there is no site. I realize that may be a bit of a stretch but it's true.

Bottom line...Nobody wants to read the forums with that kind of language, either.