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Default BB DM 4.5 now available - 06-21-2008, 02:38 PM

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Default 06-21-2008, 02:40 PM

woohoo, thank you for the heads up!
   
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Default 06-21-2008, 02:46 PM

Have you used it prior to the public release, is it stable...
   
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Default 06-21-2008, 02:52 PM

Yes it is pretty nice, some of the same problems that 4.3 DM had with some instability here and there, but this has been ok on my laptop.
   
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Default 06-21-2008, 03:04 PM

Looks like bundle 16 and that was a good build of DM. Bundle 15 has been floating around and it had a few issues.

Go for this one!
   
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Default 06-21-2008, 03:10 PM

Device Manager 4.5 MSI is also listed...is that included in the DM 4.5 download bundle?
   
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Default 06-21-2008, 03:12 PM

Gaak. I've spent hours on this new version... First, Roxio wouldn't uninstall or reinstall properly - and it takes SO long to watch it fail each time. I finally had to manually remove the detritus that uninstall left behind, run Windows Installer Cleanup utility, scour the registry manually to remove Roxio stuff, and manually delete the sub directories left behind. Add in a few more reboots and then finally a successful reinstall.

Now - with the new DM in place, I'm finding that the first thing it always wants to do is "Check for device application updates. Please wait...". This seems to take several minutes each time - I can't imagine what it's doing... It even offers a tantalizing "Cancel" button - but this, like everything else, appears disabled right now, so my choice is to wait and watch with fingers crossed, or kill it with Task Mangler and try again.

*sigh*

Never had problems like this with any prior releases, including the 4.6 and 4.5 betas...

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Default 06-21-2008, 04:19 PM

Isnt the new DM supposed to be compatible with itunes? ...
   
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Default 06-21-2008, 04:20 PM

That's coming in a separate download and will be in DM 4.6.
   
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Default 06-21-2008, 04:22 PM

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That's coming in a separate download and will be in DM 4.6.

Oh, ok--Thanks for the heads up!
   
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Default 06-21-2008, 06:29 PM

its not available on the 4.6 I have. It makes me accept the download but I cant download it yet because its not released. but 4.6 has been pretty stable
   
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Default 06-21-2008, 06:33 PM

DM 4.6 is little more than 4.5 with the addition of that feature. it's not available yet, though.
   
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Default 06-21-2008, 07:06 PM

Wow! This has been a remarkable Saturday!


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Default 06-22-2008, 12:36 AM

I just downloaded the DTM 4.5 English version...and suddenly my desktop shortcut icon is gone!!! I even tried to launch DTM via my programs list...and no luck.

What is the problem?

If I can't have a desktop shortcut...I'll go back to 4.3.
   
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Default 06-22-2008, 12:40 AM

which package did you download. The first time all I downloaded was the BlackBerry Device Manager, and had the same issue. Went and downloaded Desktop Manager English Version and now all is well.
   
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Default 06-22-2008, 12:41 AM

There are many versions there for download (including ala carte Device Manager.) Pay close attention to what you are downloading.
   
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Default 06-22-2008, 12:43 AM

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There are many versions there for download (including ala carte Device Manager.) Pay close attention to what you are downloading.
So...what is your suggestion for the best download, Mr. Clark? One that would return to me my shortcut would be wonderful...
   
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Default 06-22-2008, 12:45 AM

Desktop Manager English and up to you whether or not you want the Media Manager.
   
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Default 06-22-2008, 12:45 AM

Blackberry Desktop Software 4.5.0 bundle 16 English - With media manager

* File name: 450_b016_english.exe
* File size: 192.31 MB
* Date posted: 20-Jun-08

* Download Software
   
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Default 06-22-2008, 12:46 AM

or
BlackBerry Desktop Manager 4.5 B16 - English - no media manager

* File name: 450_b016_english_nomediamanager.exe
* File size: 61.10036 MB
* Date posted: 20-June-08

* Download Software
   
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Default 06-22-2008, 01:02 AM

Thanks guys...I loaded the DTM w/o media manager...and all is well.

Tell me...I have been warned in the past not to load the media manager, but it was never explained to me why not to. Is there any advantage to having the media manager vs. not having it? Sounds dumb...but I really don't know.

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Default 06-22-2008, 02:00 AM

Media Manager allows you to use your PC to manage files on device memory as well as the media card. You can move video files from your PC to your BB using it and it will automatically convert them for you (as long as they aren't protected.)
   
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Default 06-22-2008, 09:44 AM

Downloaded DM 4.5 w/Media Manager last night and everything works great! Can't wait for the itunes download--whenever that may be.
   
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Default 06-22-2008, 09:46 AM

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Media Manager allows you to use your PC to manage files on device memory as well as the media card. You can move video files from your PC to your BB using it and it will automatically convert them for you (as long as they aren't protected.)
Thanks again, JC. Removed original, and downloaded DTM w/MM...and all is well.

Now...just gotta figure Roxio Media Manager out.
   
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Default 06-23-2008, 05:18 AM

I hope they'll throw out Roxio in the next release and put in something more useful. Roxio is slower than snail on sedatives.
   
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Default Does the Device software on the PC go away? - 06-23-2008, 09:03 AM

Do you have to reinstall the device software to your PC after uninstalling the 4.3 desktop manager?
   
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Default 06-23-2008, 09:05 AM

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Do you have to reinstall the device software to your PC after uninstalling the 4.3 desktop manager?
no its a seperate software
   
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Default 06-23-2008, 01:39 PM

A couple of questions...okay, three.

1. Is it necessary to uninstall DM 4.3?

2. Since DM 4.3 has been working just fine, is there any reason to upgrade to 4.5? I haven't seen any mention of new features in this thread, apart from forthcoming iTunes support, which doesn't interest me.

3. Isn't is a bit odd that RIM asks for my employer and job title as *required fields* before I can download this? I'm on BIS and I don't see why this information is any of their concern.
   
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Default 06-23-2008, 01:53 PM

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Default 06-24-2008, 11:00 PM

Has anyone had problems getting DM to download? I know I'm choosing the right one, but it is SO SLOW! It will get about 45% through and then pop up saying that it couldn't be downloaded that the server connection was reset... wtf? I have tried about 5 times to dl it now, all to no avail.


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Default 06-25-2008, 09:29 AM

I'm just glad "Hide when minimized" is back!
   
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Default 06-25-2008, 09:58 AM

Here's a question.

I have a DM4.3 and a bunch of customizations done to the BB OS as to free up memory on the 8130.

What implications, if any, is there to installing DM 4.5
   
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None.
   
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Default 06-25-2008, 01:01 PM

Ok. I have been banging my head on my desk all morning trying to figure this out.

Setup: BB 8310 (AT & T), OS 4.5 (the vodafone one), Windows XP SP2, BIS without redirector. I have tried in vain to upgrade to Desktop Manager 4.5 released on the official RIM site. I keep getting the dreaded "cannot find system in table file" when I try to configure the sync. I tried as update to DM 4.2, clean install with all data removed, rebooting PC, battery pull on BB, crystals lined up facing east, standing on one foot while singing national anthem, etc. I had the same problem with DM 4.3 and just rolled back to 4.2. This all started when I tried to use app loader and got the similarly dreaded "no additional applications .... " message.

Suggestions are welcome as I'm running out of aspirin.


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Default 06-25-2008, 04:32 PM

Just thought I'd ask this question since I've been having this problem for ages...

I'm using an 8800 on Rogers Wireless with WinXP SP2 and Desktop Manager 4.5 (latest one just released) with media manager. When I go to install it, it never ever installs the Media Manager -- never shows up. Anyone have any clues to get this thing to show up? Last time I could manipulate my BB's device memory was so many versions ago (before Roxio came along).

Any help would be appreciated

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Just thought I'd ask this question since I've been having this problem for ages...

I'm using an 8800 on Rogers Wireless with WinXP SP2 and Desktop Manager 4.5 (latest one just released) with media manager. When I go to install it, it never ever installs the Media Manager -- never shows up. Anyone have any clues to get this thing to show up? Last time I could manipulate my BB's device memory was so many versions ago (before Roxio came along).

Any help would be appreciated

Ty
I had the exact same issue...here's what I did...

Launch the executable again and wait for the installer to extract...do not click anything else to proceed with the install.
Go to c:\documents and setting\username\local settings\temp
The last folder that was created will contain the full DM installer and Media Manager
Copy the SR_MM to another location. This contains the Media Manager.
Cancel out of the DM installation
Run Setup.exe to launch the Media Manager installer.

**If you get a message saying you do not have full access, hold down the Shift key and right-click setup.exe and select run as...put in the local administrator password and you should be good to go.

Hope this helps!
   
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Default 06-26-2008, 04:37 PM

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Ok. I have been banging my head on my desk all morning trying to figure this out.

Setup: BB 8310 (AT & T), OS 4.5 (the vodafone one), Windows XP SP2, BIS without redirector. I have tried in vain to upgrade to Desktop Manager 4.5 released on the official RIM site. I keep getting the dreaded "cannot find system in table file" when I try to configure the sync. I tried as update to DM 4.2, clean install with all data removed, rebooting PC, battery pull on BB, crystals lined up facing east, standing on one foot while singing national anthem, etc. I had the same problem with DM 4.3 and just rolled back to 4.2. This all started when I tried to use app loader and got the similarly dreaded "no additional applications .... " message.

Suggestions are welcome as I'm running out of aspirin.
OK! I solved my own problem!

There is a BB Technical Knowledge Center Article that addresses this problem. Here's what I did:

1. Uninstall DM 4.2
2. Install DM 4.5 including allowing system to reboot
3. Follow instructions in this article exactly http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/searc...00%20151124755

And it synced!


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Exclamation 06-28-2008, 01:59 PM

I've installed DM 4.5 but the Roxio manager keeps crapping out when I use it.
Stick to the DM 4.5 without the media manager imo.
Besides, windows explorer works just as fast for transferring tunes.
   
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Default 06-28-2008, 02:25 PM

It does, but it doesn't do well converting videos to put on your BB. Also, Windows Explorer can't browse and move files from your BB device memory. Media Manager does a decent job of this.
   
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