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BBF Moderator
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BB DM 4.5 now available -
06-21-2008, 02:38 PM
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BBF Moderator
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06-21-2008, 02:40 PM
woohoo, thank you for the heads up!
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BBF Moderator
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06-21-2008, 02:46 PM
Have you used it prior to the public release, is it stable...
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BBF Moderator
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06-21-2008, 02:52 PM
Yes it is pretty nice, some of the same problems that 4.3 DM had with some instability here and there, but this has been ok on my laptop.
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BBF Moderator
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06-21-2008, 03:04 PM
Looks like bundle 16 and that was a good build of DM. Bundle 15 has been floating around and it had a few issues.
Go for this one! 
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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06-21-2008, 03:10 PM
Device Manager 4.5 MSI is also listed...is that included in the DM 4.5 download bundle?
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CrackBerry Addict
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06-21-2008, 03:12 PM
Gaak. I've spent hours on this new version... First, Roxio wouldn't uninstall or reinstall properly - and it takes SO long to watch it fail each time. I finally had to manually remove the detritus that uninstall left behind, run Windows Installer Cleanup utility, scour the registry manually to remove Roxio stuff, and manually delete the sub directories left behind. Add in a few more reboots and then finally a successful reinstall.
Now - with the new DM in place, I'm finding that the first thing it always wants to do is "Check for device application updates. Please wait...". This seems to take several minutes each time - I can't imagine what it's doing... It even offers a tantalizing "Cancel" button - but this, like everything else, appears disabled right now, so my choice is to wait and watch with fingers crossed, or kill it with Task Mangler and try again.
*sigh*
Never had problems like this with any prior releases, including the 4.6 and 4.5 betas...
- Jon
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06-21-2008, 04:19 PM
Isnt the new DM supposed to be compatible with itunes? ...
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BBF Moderator
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06-21-2008, 04:20 PM
That's coming in a separate download and will be in DM 4.6.
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06-21-2008, 04:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
That's coming in a separate download and will be in DM 4.6.
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Oh, ok--Thanks for the heads up!
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06-21-2008, 06:29 PM
its not available on the 4.6 I have. It makes me accept the download but I cant download it yet because its not released. but 4.6 has been pretty stable
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BBF Moderator
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06-21-2008, 06:33 PM
DM 4.6 is little more than 4.5 with the addition of that feature. it's not available yet, though.
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06-21-2008, 07:06 PM
Wow! This has been a remarkable Saturday! 
All your base are belong to us.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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06-21-2008, 07:46 PM
thank you
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CrackBerry Addict
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06-22-2008, 12:36 AM
I just downloaded the DTM 4.5 English version...and suddenly my desktop shortcut icon is gone!!! I even tried to launch DTM via my programs list...and no luck.
What is the problem?
If I can't have a desktop shortcut...I'll go back to 4.3. 
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-22-2008, 12:40 AM
which package did you download. The first time all I downloaded was the BlackBerry Device Manager, and had the same issue. Went and downloaded Desktop Manager English Version and now all is well.
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BBF Moderator
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06-22-2008, 12:41 AM
There are many versions there for download (including ala carte Device Manager.) Pay close attention to what you are downloading. 
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CrackBerry Addict
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06-22-2008, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by John Clark
There are many versions there for download (including ala carte Device Manager.) Pay close attention to what you are downloading. 
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So...what is your suggestion for the best download, Mr. Clark? One that would return to me my shortcut would be wonderful...
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BBF Moderator
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06-22-2008, 12:45 AM
Desktop Manager English and up to you whether or not you want the Media Manager.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-22-2008, 12:45 AM
Blackberry Desktop Software 4.5.0 bundle 16 English - With media manager
* File name: 450_b016_english.exe
* File size: 192.31 MB
* Date posted: 20-Jun-08
* Download Software
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-22-2008, 12:46 AM
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BlackBerry Desktop Manager 4.5 B16 - English - no media manager
* File name: 450_b016_english_nomediamanager.exe
* File size: 61.10036 MB
* Date posted: 20-June-08
* Download Software
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CrackBerry Addict
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06-22-2008, 01:02 AM
Thanks guys...I loaded the DTM w/o media manager...and all is well.
Tell me...I have been warned in the past not to load the media manager, but it was never explained to me why not to. Is there any advantage to having the media manager vs. not having it? Sounds dumb...but I really don't know.
Thanks.
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BBF Moderator
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06-22-2008, 02:00 AM
Media Manager allows you to use your PC to manage files on device memory as well as the media card. You can move video files from your PC to your BB using it and it will automatically convert them for you (as long as they aren't protected.)
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06-22-2008, 09:44 AM
Downloaded DM 4.5 w/Media Manager last night and everything works great! Can't wait for the itunes download--whenever that may be.
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CrackBerry Addict
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06-22-2008, 09:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
Media Manager allows you to use your PC to manage files on device memory as well as the media card. You can move video files from your PC to your BB using it and it will automatically convert them for you (as long as they aren't protected.)
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Thanks again, JC. Removed original, and downloaded DTM w/MM...and all is well.
Now...just gotta figure Roxio Media Manager out. 
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06-23-2008, 05:18 AM
I hope they'll throw out Roxio in the next release and put in something more useful. Roxio is slower than snail on sedatives.
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Does the Device software on the PC go away? -
06-23-2008, 09:03 AM
Do you have to reinstall the device software to your PC after uninstalling the 4.3 desktop manager?
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06-23-2008, 09:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdmaguy
Do you have to reinstall the device software to your PC after uninstalling the 4.3 desktop manager?
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no its a seperate software
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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06-23-2008, 01:39 PM
A couple of questions...okay, three.
1. Is it necessary to uninstall DM 4.3?
2. Since DM 4.3 has been working just fine, is there any reason to upgrade to 4.5? I haven't seen any mention of new features in this thread, apart from forthcoming iTunes support, which doesn't interest me.
3. Isn't is a bit odd that RIM asks for my employer and job title as *required fields* before I can download this? I'm on BIS and I don't see why this information is any of their concern.
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06-23-2008, 01:53 PM
i just put home and na
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-24-2008, 11:00 PM
Has anyone had problems getting DM to download? I know I'm choosing the right one, but it is SO SLOW! It will get about 45% through and then pop up saying that it couldn't be downloaded that the server connection was reset... wtf? I have tried about 5 times to dl it now, all to no avail.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-25-2008, 09:29 AM
I'm just glad "Hide when minimized" is back! 
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-25-2008, 09:58 AM
Here's a question.
I have a DM4.3 and a bunch of customizations done to the BB OS as to free up memory on the 8130.
What implications, if any, is there to installing DM 4.5
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-25-2008, 10:25 AM
None.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-25-2008, 01:01 PM
Ok. I have been banging my head on my desk all morning trying to figure this out.
Setup: BB 8310 (AT & T), OS 4.5 (the vodafone one), Windows XP SP2, BIS without redirector. I have tried in vain to upgrade to Desktop Manager 4.5 released on the official RIM site. I keep getting the dreaded "cannot find system in table file" when I try to configure the sync. I tried as update to DM 4.2, clean install with all data removed, rebooting PC, battery pull on BB, crystals lined up facing east, standing on one foot while singing national anthem, etc. I had the same problem with DM 4.3 and just rolled back to 4.2. This all started when I tried to use app loader and got the similarly dreaded "no additional applications .... " message.
Suggestions are welcome as I'm running out of aspirin.
Kris
8700c --> windows mobile POS --> Curve 8310 --> Bold 9000
Last edited by kriswilliams03 : 06-25-2008 at 02:07 PM.
Reason: ETA Windows and BIS info.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-25-2008, 04:32 PM
Just thought I'd ask this question since I've been having this problem for ages...
I'm using an 8800 on Rogers Wireless with WinXP SP2 and Desktop Manager 4.5 (latest one just released) with media manager. When I go to install it, it never ever installs the Media Manager -- never shows up. Anyone have any clues to get this thing to show up? Last time I could manipulate my BB's device memory was so many versions ago (before Roxio came along).
Any help would be appreciated
Ty
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-25-2008, 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tolwyn
Just thought I'd ask this question since I've been having this problem for ages...
I'm using an 8800 on Rogers Wireless with WinXP SP2 and Desktop Manager 4.5 (latest one just released) with media manager. When I go to install it, it never ever installs the Media Manager -- never shows up. Anyone have any clues to get this thing to show up? Last time I could manipulate my BB's device memory was so many versions ago (before Roxio came along).
Any help would be appreciated
Ty
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I had the exact same issue...here's what I did...
Launch the executable again and wait for the installer to extract...do not click anything else to proceed with the install.
Go to c:\documents and setting\username\local settings\temp
The last folder that was created will contain the full DM installer and Media Manager
Copy the SR_MM to another location. This contains the Media Manager.
Cancel out of the DM installation
Run Setup.exe to launch the Media Manager installer.
**If you get a message saying you do not have full access, hold down the Shift key and right-click setup.exe and select run as...put in the local administrator password and you should be good to go.
Hope this helps!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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06-26-2008, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kriswilliams03
Ok. I have been banging my head on my desk all morning trying to figure this out.
Setup: BB 8310 (AT & T), OS 4.5 (the vodafone one), Windows XP SP2, BIS without redirector. I have tried in vain to upgrade to Desktop Manager 4.5 released on the official RIM site. I keep getting the dreaded "cannot find system in table file" when I try to configure the sync. I tried as update to DM 4.2, clean install with all data removed, rebooting PC, battery pull on BB, crystals lined up facing east, standing on one foot while singing national anthem, etc. I had the same problem with DM 4.3 and just rolled back to 4.2. This all started when I tried to use app loader and got the similarly dreaded "no additional applications .... " message.
Suggestions are welcome as I'm running out of aspirin.
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OK! I solved my own problem!
There is a BB Technical Knowledge Center Article that addresses this problem. Here's what I did:
1. Uninstall DM 4.2
2. Install DM 4.5 including allowing system to reboot
3. Follow instructions in this article exactly http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/searc...00%20151124755
And it synced!
Kris
8700c --> windows mobile POS --> Curve 8310 --> Bold 9000
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06-28-2008, 01:59 PM
I've installed DM 4.5 but the Roxio manager keeps crapping out when I use it. 
Stick to the DM 4.5 without the media manager imo. 
Besides, windows explorer works just as fast for transferring tunes. 
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06-28-2008, 02:25 PM
It does, but it doesn't do well converting videos to put on your BB. Also, Windows Explorer can't browse and move files from your BB device memory. Media Manager does a decent job of this.
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