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BlackBerryOS 4.x Download FAQ - UPGRADE DOWNLOADS -
12-28-2004, 04:00 PM
BlackBerryOS 4.x Download FAQ
Where Can I download BlackBerryOS 4.x?
Upgrades are available for all models of BlackBerry except for model 5XXX series and 8-megabyte models. Where Can I download BlackBerry Desktop 4.x
It is now available on RIM's website: - Go to BlackBerry
- Click "Service Packs"
- Select "BlackBerry Desktop Software V4.1 Pulldown
What Are The Advantages Of BlackBerryOS 4.x?
There's a big list in this thread. A short summary is as follows: - Full TCP/IP stack without need for BES/MDS for consumers. (for GSM/GPRS and iDEN only)
- Categories for everything (Calendar, Addressbook, Tasks, Notes)
- Multiple addresses now possible for Addressbook
- Better HTML web browser (on some carriers)
- Font size is configurable for web browser separately from rest of handheld
- Backlight timeout is adjustable.
- Improved data performance during full duplex transmissions (chatting)
- Picture application (photo album)
- Can put a picture in standby screen.
- Themeable.
- Password Keeper (a password wallet)
- Over-The-Air activation, for BES 4.x
- Wireless over-the-air PIM synchronization with BES 4.x for everything
- Improved API's, including MIDP/2.0
- (4.1) Personalized ringtones
Where's my web browser? I installed the 4.x OS!
Try the following steps:
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Select 'Options' on the main menu screen
Select 'Host Routing Table'.
Select 'Register Now' (the download might take a few moments to complete)
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This should work on Bell Mobility. This may cause the Internet icon to appear on some carriers. However, unfortunately, some carriers disable the web browser in BlackBerryOS. These carriers include Nextel, Telus, and Verizon. Cingular is now enabling the BlackBerry browser if you call and ask for it to be enabled (To save time on the same phone call to Cingular, you should also request the Wireless Internet Express added, as well as Wireless Internet Express Data Connect to add both the "wap.cingular" and "isp.cingular" Access Point Names to your account). You may want to wait a few months to see if Nextel, Telus and Verizon they will enable the web browser. You may want to try calling them and asking for it. Or you can download and install an alternate web browser such as Reqwireless if your carrier supports Internet connectivity on BlackBerry.
I Installed 4.x OS from another carrier. It doesn't work!
This is because you will need to delete or rename the VENDOR.XML file located at:
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader\VENDOR.XML
First, install BlackBerry OS 4.x but do not run BlackBerry Desktop. Next, delete or rename the VENDOR.XML. Finally, run desktop manager to install.
Help! My Older BlackBerry Is Running Too Slow With 4.x!
If you upgrade an older BlackBerry to OS 4.x, then BlackBerryOS 4.x can be slightly slower than older releases. A fraction of a second lag, for example, is normal. However, it should not be so abnormally slow as to take 15 seconds to launch "Calculator", or that an hourglass shows up for 10 seconds when you try to view an email message. BlackBerryOS should NEVER feel 10 times as slow, and if that happens, there's another problem.
However, if this happens, you need to free up memory on your BlackBerry. This can be done by removing unnecessary applications. You can even uninstall BrickBreaker now if you need to do that! You should delete all your old emails using "Delete Prior".
Model 7750's are very prone to the "frequent hourglass" problem. If you have a 7750, it is strongly recommended to upgrade to a newer model such as 7130 or 7250. One important thing to keep in mind about those slow 7750's, is you must make sure you're not already too low in memory before installing BlackBerryOS. Make sure you remove unneeded applications and delete old emails ("Delete Prior"). Since the hourglass can suddenly show up excessively on a 7750 when it runs out of memory (which happens much more often on 7750's than other models of BlackBerries). Once you free up the memory of your BlackBerry, reboot your BlackBerry by removing and reinserting the battery.
What If I Want To Downgrade?
Forum member 'bfrye' made a good guide: Here is a quick install guide to your blackberry. This should easily cover reinstallation of OS and reverting back to previous OS version as well. - Download the version of OS you want to install from your carrier's website.
- Extract or install the files from the previous step. They will automatically install into the correct location. This location will be C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research in Motion\Shared\Loader Files. Under this directory you will see directories with the model number of your device (if you installed the correct files) followed by a version number. Under these directories will be a host of .alx and .cod files. Do not modify or delete these files. They are needed to install the new OS.
- Assume the BlackBerry Handheld Manager is installed, when you plug your device in, a popup will appear and ask if you want to upgrade your device. Choose upgrade and follow the steps given by the Application Loader. If you have any 3rd party applications you would like to keep, locate and select them at this time to avoid having to reload them after the new OS is installed.
- This will also be the time the apploader will ask if you want to erase all data and reload or backup and restore the data on your device. Choose your preference and continue.
- Typically a complete OS reload with backup and restore can take anywhere from 5-15 minutes depending on the amount of data on your device to restore.
- The apploader will inform you when the process is complete. After this, the device will automatically reset itself (sometime this will take longer than a normal reboot) and once completed and on, your device will be upgraded and ready to go.
Now if you wish to downgrade your device to a previous version, many of the above steps will apply.
First, you will have to remove the newer OS from your PC. Do this by going to add/remove programs in the control panel and removing the software for the new BB OS. Make sure desktop manager is not running when you do this. After complete, restart the Desktop Manager.
When you plug in your device, if everything went well, the Desktop Manager should tell you that your PC has an older version of desktop tools than is installed on the device. It will give you an option to keep the version on your BlackBerry or downgrade to the version on your PC. You will want to select downgrade and let apploader do the work.
Should this method fail, you will have to download the file javaloader.exe from the internet. Place it in a common directory (I usually put mine in the Loader Files directory for easy access. From the directory you have javaloader.exe installed in type "javaloader -usb wipe". This will completely erase all data and applications from your devie. Now navigate to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research in Motion\AppLoader and delete the file vendor.xml. Now plug in your device and install the new OS from scratch. Open apploader and select the USB port as your connection. It will then bring to you to the main apploader screen and all the OS packages will be listed with status as Install.
If you have question beyond the scope of this document please feel free to post them. However I suggest reading and rereading these steps to ensure you have tried the most basic and tried steps to load or reload your OS. Have fun and enjoy!
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Re: BlackBerryOS 4.0 Download FAQ - UPGRADE DOWNLOADS -
12-29-2004, 05:34 PM
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BlackBerryOS 4.0 Download FAQ
[*] AT&T
4.0 IS NOW AVAILABLE!
Download Here (4.0.0.201)
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According to the notes at the above AWS link, the 72xx excludes the 7290's at this time.
Steve
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. - Matthew 5:9 (NIV)
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12-29-2004, 09:44 PM
So with a 7230 and the Hong Kong CSL software loaded (which has been working fine) is there any reason to load the AT&T version? I'm on T-Mobile.
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12-29-2004, 10:41 PM
I too loaded the Hong Kong OS4 version a while back on my AT&T 7780 and have had no problems to date. When AT&T released their OS4, I downloaded and attempted install. The HK and AT&T OS4 apps had the same version numbers. In fact, the download file names were similar, indicating rel 201 4.0.0.171. I believe that the Chinese language is the only difference.
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12-30-2004, 07:11 AM
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unfortunately, some carriers disable the web browser in BlackBerryOS. These carriers include Nextel, Telus, and Verizon.
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12-30-2004, 01:31 PM
The WAP browser from NOL is in fact different...I would recommend using the Reqwireless webviewer browser...I can log into most websites with no major issues. The only problem is the lack of support for frames... I very seldomly use the NOL browser....I do hope that Nextel begins supporting the BB browser as it is slightly superior to the NOl crap...
Hope this helps..
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12-30-2004, 04:29 PM
Good to know, thank you very much.
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01-02-2005, 12:01 AM
hi i loaded 4.0 on my bell blackberry 7750..
i still cant connect to verichat it says i dont have an IPPP service book (which i dont)...how do i get the tcp stack to make this connection?
the browser works...
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01-02-2005, 02:03 AM
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hi i loaded 4.0 on my bell blackberry 7750..
i still cant connect to verichat it says i dont have an IPPP service book (which i dont)...how do i get the tcp stack to make this connection?
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if you are not on BES, don't bother, i have the IPPP service book and it still doesn't work. tcp stack isn't enabled on the cdma 4.0 bbs.. |
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01-02-2005, 04:05 PM
I guess nobody has noticed yet, but OS 4.0 for all BB models is available from Rogers now... as well there is an updated 3.8 for the 7290 & 7100r.
http://www.shoprogers.com/business/c...oduct=wireless
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01-02-2005, 07:14 PM
I checked and i do have an IPPP service book entry but for BIB (which i am guessing is blackberry internet browser) so even with 4.0 i dont have a tcpip stack for 3rd party apps? only for a web browser? or is this just a limitation for CDMA versions...
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hi i loaded 4.0 on my bell blackberry 7750..
i still cant connect to verichat it says i dont have an IPPP service book (which i dont)...how do i get the tcp stack to make this connection?
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if you are not on BES, don't bother, i have the IPPP service book and it still doesn't work. tcp stack isn't enabled on the cdma 4.0 bbs.. |
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Vodafone update -
01-03-2005, 01:33 AM
Anybody knows when V 4 for Vodafone will be available? I just like the theme.
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01-03-2005, 01:35 AM
You can probably install the Vodafone theme separately, using the Themes section of my BlackBerry FAQ.
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01-03-2005, 02:23 AM
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You can probably install the Vodafone theme separately, using the Themes section of my BlackBerry FAQ.
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Is it available for a 7230 as well? |
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01-03-2005, 05:24 AM
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its actually desktop software 4.0 for all BB, not OS 4.0
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01-03-2005, 03:17 PM
It's actually available on the IMS Support website, which means it should be public soon... Sorry to anyone who jumped for joy... my contact at Rogers never told me it was only on ims support until after I had posted here... I'll let ya's know how it is if I get a chance to throw it on the BB tonight.
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Starhub (Singapore) 7730 success -
01-04-2005, 05:01 AM
This works using the AT&T Wireless link supplied above for the 7700.
TCP/APN The APN needs to be set to shwapint (big thanks for the WAP access link given in another thread).
Verichat is working just fine, although there are occasional drops that require reconnection.
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01-04-2005, 02:14 PM
Cingular has now posted the 4.0 handheld software on their website for every current model except the 7290.
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01-04-2005, 02:50 PM
Scotty_T, thanks for that information. I've updated the post.
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01-04-2005, 02:52 PM
It looks like it's just Rogers, T-Mobile and Verizon left!
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01-04-2005, 02:55 PM
Mark - you might also want to note that the Hong Kong site has the 4.0 download for the 7290.
I used this version right before the holiday on my Cingular 7290.
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best upgrade for uk blackberry?? -
01-04-2005, 05:10 PM
Hi
I'm new to blackberry's and live in the uk, which of the listed rom updates is most applicable to my 7230? Its on t-mobile uk, but I'm hoping to unlock it soon
thanks
Rob
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01-04-2005, 11:03 PM
When it says that the web browser is disabled by nextel, does that mean it disables to the nextel web browser or just the blackberry web browser???
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01-05-2005, 12:18 AM
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When it says that the web browser is disabled by nextel, does that mean it disables to the nextel web browser or just the blackberry web browser???
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it means that nextel disabled the 4.0 internet browser that rim provides in the 4.0 software... which kinda sucks, but kinda not, the internet browser in 4.0 is quite slow... |
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Cingular 6280 Code Works On T-Mobile 6230 -
01-05-2005, 02:05 PM
I have tested and can confirm that the code for the Cingular 6280 works great on the T-Mobile 6230. Please use this information at your own risk.
Adam Wallace
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01-05-2005, 02:08 PM
The -10 -30 and -80 versions are generally interchangeable. (i.e 6230 with 6280).
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Where's 4.0 for the 7290? -
01-05-2005, 04:50 PM
So why is the 7290 getting left out in the cold by AWS and Cingular here in the States? They've released 4.0 for everything BUT the 7290. Is there something drastically different (or evil) about the 7290? A little hesitant to try the Asian build of 4.0 - I know I could get away with an AWS build on my Cingular device (which is on our corporate AWS account - confusing, eh?).
WAH! 
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01-05-2005, 05:04 PM
According to an e-mail I got today from T-Mobile, there are some bugs in the 4.0 code for the 7290 and 7100t which must be resolved before they release code.
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01-05-2005, 05:25 PM
I cannot answer your question but I have been running the HK code without a problem. Today I updated to 4.0.0.185 (1.8.0.117) which they have posted for the 7290.
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So why is the 7290 getting left out in the cold by AWS and Cingular here in the States? They've released 4.0 for everything BUT the 7290. Is there something drastically different (or evil) about the 7290? A little hesitant to try the Asian build of 4.0 - I know I could get away with an AWS build on my Cingular device (which is on our corporate AWS account - confusing, eh?).
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01-05-2005, 05:34 PM
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According to an e-mail I got today from T-Mobile, there are some bugs in the 4.0 code for the 7290 and 7100t which must be resolved before they release code.
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Hmmm - wonder if the bugs are in the HK release? Wonder what they are? Wonder when they're going to relaease a fixed build? Wonder if I can stop using "wonder"?
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01-05-2005, 07:09 PM
rogers is STILL not out with 4.0 yet?!?!
rogers sucks!
i upgraded my 7280 with that hong kong version...works great!
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How to upgrade 7290? -
01-05-2005, 10:18 PM
I have a 7290 v3.8.0.145 (according to About).
Downloaded the 7290 4.0 upgrade software from the HK site and went through the installation procedure. It made me restart my BB desktop. What do I do next to upgrade the handheld?
Thanks!
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01-06-2005, 12:31 AM
Here's the answer!
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader is the directory where the vendor.xml file is. if your worried about deleteing it just rename it, then restart blackberry desktop and everything should work again including the install of the 4.0 software.
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01-06-2005, 01:02 PM
The 7290 is dramatically different from the 7210 / 7230 / 7280 because of:
- Bluetooth
- BlackBerry Modem
- Two-step backlight instead of one-step backlight
- Twice the memory
- Quadband
The electronics in the 7290 is more noticeably different from the 7210 / 7230 / 7230 .....
That's why there's a separate firmware for the 7290 compared to the others.
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01-06-2005, 01:13 PM
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01-06-2005, 03:39 PM
Interesting. Thanks for the correction!
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4.0 in a Verizon 7750 -
01-07-2005, 06:59 AM
I've been using Telus 4.0 in a Verizon 7750 for a few weeks now, and have some observations. Overall, I like it. General speed is not improved (as far as I can tell), or not improved much. I've noticed the time to switch applications seems to be related to how much you have "open". I use the alt-tab (ctrl-esc) a lot to quickly switch between applications. If I escape out of ones I'm not really using it seems others, like Phone, launch quicker.
When plugging in the power (charger) lead, the light turns on. Convenient. However, if the power is plugged it while your on the phone, it's an instant disconnection! Very annoying.
My battery seems to last longer now. This last charge lasted 4 days with moderate e-mail and browser use, and occassional phone use. I like that!
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missing passport keeper -
01-07-2005, 08:29 PM
I recently (3 weeks ago) downloaded the nextel 4.0 upgrade to my 7510 and was starting to use password keeper. Then my esc button starts failing so I buy the 7520. When I fire it up and do a restore on to the 7520 everything else is there but password keeper. I looked on the application loader on my bb desktop but no sign of password keeper. Anybody have some suggestions on what happen/what I can do to get it back?
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01-07-2005, 09:26 PM
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I cannot answer your question but I have been running the HK code without a problem. Today I updated to 4.0.0.185 (1.8.0.117) which they have posted for the 7290.
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Originally Posted by NNovak
So why is the 7290 getting left out in the cold by AWS and Cingular here in the States? They've released 4.0 for everything BUT the 7290. Is there something drastically different (or evil) about the 7290? A little hesitant to try the Asian build of 4.0 - I know I could get away with an AWS build on my Cingular device (which is on our corporate AWS account - confusing, eh?).
WAH! :cry:
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01-08-2005, 10:34 AM
I haven't noticed any difference in the things you mention. I would say they are the same if not a little better as compared to 3.8.
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I cannot answer your question but I have been running the HK code without a problem. Today I updated to 4.0.0.185 (1.8.0.117) which they have posted for the 7290.
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So why is the 7290 getting left out in the cold by AWS and Cingular here in the States? They've released 4.0 for everything BUT the 7290. Is there something drastically different (or evil) about the 7290? A little hesitant to try the Asian build of 4.0 - I know I could get away with an AWS build on my Cingular device (which is on our corporate AWS account - confusing, eh?).
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