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[Old Thread] Feature List in BlackberryOS Version 4.0.0.100 -
08-20-2004, 02:21 PM
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This is an old thread.
BlackBerryOS already went beyond 4.0.0.185
Please see newer thread.
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Observations of BlackberryOS 4.0.0.100 on my handheld (No, I did not get this version from this website from the post in General forum. No, I can't tell you where I got it, unfortunately. I can't even say if I downloaded or installed the OS myself. However, it should be out soon enough)
New Features from my testing:
- TCP/IP stack on all Blackberries including 7280! (no BES/MDS needed). (Carrier must be using new version of BWC, it still acts as a gateway, essentially MDS is now being built into BWC but RIM is now calling it a TCP/IP stack).
- New Blackberry corporate logo
- Themeable "Options -> Theme" Came only with one theme.
- New "Options -> TCP" with configurable APN/user/password.
- Configurable Browser Push capability "Options -> Browser Push"
- Slightly bigger font for carrier name (white on blue)
- According to the options I see in the Browser Configuration, Web Browswer supports JavaScript, animated GIF, background graphics, tables, and Embedded Media (Flash, SVG), and JavaScript popups. Carrier must be using recent BWC for extra browser features to work.
- Font size (and font) is now configurable in Web Browser separately of the rest of the handheld
- You can search the whole PIM. Calendar too. (select Search to search one or more of: Message, Calendar, Addressbook, Memopad, Tasks)
- Backlight timeout is configurable "Options -> Screen/Keyboard" to be up to 1 minute. (Sorry, no auto backlight power-on upon typing)
- Faster full duplex operation. Background transmissions no longer slow down the Blackberry nearly as much. You can chat more easily simultaneously with incoming chats without your typing pausing as much (like in telnet, IRC, instant messaging)
- Turning on/off checkboxes can be done by clicking thumbwheel now (less confusing)
New Apps that appears to have appeared:
- Blackberry Web Browser now shows up on all Blackberries without BES/MDS
- Password Keeper (a password wallet application)
- Picture application (Appears to be something to do with Screensaver Image, and Background Image in Main Screen)
- Brickbreaker now a full Arkanoid-like game with background graphics, ball-bounce animations, and a few more mini-special-effects
Fixed from what I can gather:
- Now works with Idokorro MobileSSH (4.0.0.77)
- Over-The-Air activation ("Enterprise Activation" icon)
- Three rows of icons back (rather than being reduced to two in 4.0.0.77), 4.0.0.100 main menu now looks similiar to my previous 3.7.1.41.
- Antialiasing greatly improved, doesn't make font blocky anymore.
- My favourite font MillibankTall / BBMillibankTall merged into a scalable font that looks exactly the same as the good old MillibankTall font. (I use 10-point Millibank Tall, just love that readable type). Thanks for bringing it back in 4.0.0.100, I guess RIM got complaints about 4.0.0.77
Bugs:
- Minor redraw bug: In the Main Menu, hold Alt+Thumbwheel to bring the Move Icon menu up, then click the Esc button. The background under the menu does not redraw. (To force it to rerdraw, just enter-and-exit a Blackberry application)
- Selecting "Messages -> Thumbwheel Click -> Options -> Email Reconcilation" displays error message "Uncaught exception: Field added to a manager while it is already parented."
- BES/MDS server still sends duplicate incoming packets in Idokorro MobileSSH, if you RIM employees are reading this, it's RIM Bug Tracking system RQST00000604486.
All in all, 4.0.0.100 is now stable enough with a few minor bugs, and is an OS that's going to stay on my Blackberry 7280  I now fully believe that RIM's estimate of September-November is an accurate milestone, based on the stability of my 4.0.0.100 in my own Blackberry.
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08-20-2004, 06:40 PM
Hey Mark,
Any details on the fields that can be mapped to a contact on the Blackberry? Did they add a bunch of fields? Did they correct the problem that prevented date fields from being able to sync to user defined fields?
Thanks!
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08-20-2004, 10:58 PM
I have not tried. There seems to be new fields, but I don't remember what was already there. There are presently 2 address fields, 2 separate work numbers, 2 home numbers for each contact. And a "Categories" field.
While looking at this, I noticed there's a "Filter" by Category menu option, too. And you can add new categories too for the addressbook. I don't know if this feature existed before or not, but I think this is new. Only noticed it now.
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08-20-2004, 11:12 PM
Mark,
If you get the chance, could you try mapping the Birthday or Anniversary field to one of the user defined fields? You don't need to actually sync the device, save the changes, or anything...just see if the Desktop Manager ALLOWS you to drag a date field onto a user defined field -- in 3.7.1.41 you'd get an error message saying it cannot be mapped -- bugged the hell out of me
Thanks!
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08-23-2004, 02:37 PM
kirson - I have never needed field mapping before on the Blackberry so I have not tried -- so I don't know how to and too busy to bother anyway.
However, if you can type up step-by-step instructions that allows me to test in less than 5 minutes, I'll be glad to do it for you.
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08-23-2004, 02:38 PM
[Copying from HowardForums, with minor modifications]
Some people were concerned about the JavaScript popup feature. Don't worry, it is turned OFF by default. It's only there because some websites require it, like Hotmail. It is configurable. There are a lot of configurable options in the 4.0 browser now.
Browser -> Options -> General Properties
Prompt Before:
[_] Closing Browser on Escape
[X] Closing Modified Pages
[_] Running WML Scripts
Default Font Family ________
Default Font Size __
[_] Support HTML Tables
[X] Use Foreground And Background Colors
[_] Use Background Images
[_] Support Embedded Media (Flash, SVG)
[_] Support JavaScript
[_] Allow JavaScript Popups
[X] Support Style Sheets
Style sheets media type: ___________
Repeat Animations: ____ times
Some sites (like Hotmail, at least in the past) for example, requires the JavaScript popup during login.
Also, the new browser will behave like the old browser if your carrier is using the old BWC rather than the new BWC. i.e. no extra features. I like the extra options in the new 4.0 browser, too bad I can only get 3.7 rendering at the moment since the BWC must be upgraded too in order to support the new 4.0 rendering.
Browser also now supports "Forward" browsing, and now has "Clear Cache" and "Clear History" via Options. The browser is not faster than the old RIM browser (rendering slightly slower), but navigating back and forward is improved.
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08-24-2004, 10:21 PM
Mark, out of all the improvements / changes to 4.0
what have you found the most useful?
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08-25-2004, 01:43 PM
Full duplex transmission speed improvements. That's because I frequently do lots of splitscreen chatting.
Example 1: Typing something in WebMessenger and experiencing much shorter delays while incoming messages are being displayed while I am typing.
Example 2: Splitscreen chatting in UNIX/Linux software over Idokorro MobileSSH including a software program I use to call relay services for the deaf (As I am hearing impaired).
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08-28-2004, 01:53 AM
Mark,
I missed your response from earlier in the week -- sorry. I map fields around like crazy -- so it's become second nature and did not occur to me that it could be confusing. Not to worry -- I found out that the problem persists. You cannot map either Birthday or Anniversary (the only two date fields) to the User Defined Fields on the handheld. Not sure why this wasn't addressed -- it was a known issue, and the fix must be easy, since it was always possible before 3.7.1.41. I sent an email suggestion to Blackberry that they fix this. Perhaps if lots more people also send the suggestion, it will be taken seriously...
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08-28-2004, 10:21 AM
In the security options screen there is now a "wipe handheld" selection. You have to type "blackberry" and it does the same as entering your password incorrectly 10 times. Sort of like a "self destruct' option :D
It's a shame you can't have that option disabled, I'd hate to have kids of other find it and have a dying need to see what it does.
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09-02-2004, 01:43 AM
In 4.0.0.100 noticed that all the major PIM apps have categories now, including Notes, Tasks -- they now have the "Filter" menu option. Just so you all know that the new Categories feature apply to more than just Addressbook!
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09-02-2004, 11:10 AM
I think I may have mentioned this elsewhere, but I noticed that in 4.0.0.100 if you opt for SELECT mode in the browser, and then try to select and copy text, the browser crashes/freezes. Only way to get out of it is to ALT-ESC, and then reset the device to get the Browser to work again (another workaround appears to be to use Reqwireless browser, then exit the Reqwireless browser, and try to restart the Blackberry Browser -- that seems to cause an error message to be generated, but the Browser now becomes available again).
Also, ALT-CAP-DEL does not reset the device, but rather causes a SIM Card Error, and you can't use the wireless features again until you do a hard reset (remove battery).
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09-03-2004, 10:01 AM
Way too many problems with it for me...
When I tried to change anything in a profile the device crashed... Back to good ole 3.7 :D
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09-03-2004, 11:34 AM
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Also, ALT-CAP-DEL does not reset the device, but rather causes a SIM Card Error, and you can't use the wireless features again until you do a hard reset (remove battery).
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That type of reset doesn't always give a sim card error, I think they have implemented a quick reset that only does either the radio or the apps and when the other one has problems those problems will obviously still be there after the quick reset and thus you are forced to so the battery pull to force a full reset.
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09-03-2004, 11:46 AM
Interesting. It always gives me the SIM card error. I have my 7230 from T-Mobile, and I have it unlocked. I wonder if that is somehow causing a problem?
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09-03-2004, 04:27 PM
Does 4.0 have the ability to open and view pictures in blackberry's email attachment?
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09-03-2004, 05:32 PM
I think so with 4.0 servers (unconfirmed);
With Mailstreet BES 3.6 and Rogers' current BWC, I am still unable to open pictures attached to emails.
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09-04-2004, 08:33 AM
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Does 4.0 have the ability to open and view pictures in blackberry's email attachment?
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It does with a 4.0 bes, unconfirmed when bwc will get the same functionality though.
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09-08-2004, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ScOObydoo
In the security options screen there is now a "wipe handheld" selection. You have to type "blackberry" and it does the same as entering your password incorrectly 10 times. Sort of like a "self destruct' option :D
It's a shame you can't have that option disabled, I'd hate to have kids of other find it and have a dying need to see what it does.
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This must be custumizable using the BES policy settings, no?
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09-09-2004, 10:59 AM
Mark, here is another question for you. We now have the 6230/7230 for our Enterprise and we are on 3.6. Am wondering if, with the new OS, you can do a PIN lookup. Have you tried that?
Thanks.
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09-09-2004, 11:44 AM
Hey, I finally decided to RTFM. And guess what? You can do some very cool things with pictures in OS 4.0. Even without BES/BWC upgrade. I am running 4.0.0.100.
No, you still can't open pictures attached to email messages -- you'll need to wait for the BES/BWC upgrade for that. BUT -- if you go to a web page with pictures on it, and go to SELECT MODE, you can scroll down to the picture, and you'll see a dotted line around the image. Now, if you click the trackwheel you will get the option to SAVE PICTURE. Give the picture a name, and PRESTO! When you go to the new PICTURES application, the image is listed (actually, it also displays a thumbnail of the image, and gives its size!). You can OPEN (to view full screen), DELETE, or -- SET AS HOME SCREEN, or -- SET AS STANDBY SCREEN!!! This is extremely cool! And moreover, I can now remove my personal image viewer application and reclaim my lost 1MB of storage!!!
Hopefully, these features will be the same with pictures attached to email messages -- but to be honest, the manual actually doesn't say that -- it only refers to images on the web.
When I have a bit more free time I'll write a short review of BrickBreaker on 4.0.0.100. Overall, it's still pretty addictive...but it's a bit buggy, control is not as good, and the color scheme is weak. I've made it to Screen 16 of 34, score of 9420. This time it's all about staying alive. More later.
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Software Version 4.0 -
09-09-2004, 10:12 PM
Hey guys-
How can I get this version of the OS? It's not on T-mobile and it seems like several people have it. What's up?
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09-12-2004, 03:01 AM
Good news for Rogers customers (as an initial deployment before BlackberryOS 4.0),
Rogers just did some server upgrades, and now Over-the-Air downloads now work and full HTML is enabled without need for MDS or RBRO tricks, get your service books resent to you from your BWC webmail. Full TCP/IP will likely wait until Rogers release BlackberryOS 4.0.
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09-12-2004, 03:41 AM
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Good news for Rogers customers (as an initial deployment before BlackberryOS 4.0),
Rogers just did some server upgrades, and now Over-the-Air downloads now work and full HTML is enabled without need for MDS or RBRO tricks, get your service books resent to you from your BWC webmail. Full TCP/IP will likely wait until Rogers release BlackberryOS 4.0.
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Actually Rogers upgraded their servers to OS 4.0 BWC, and if you have a beta copy of 4.0, you have full access to anything and everything that will be available. full tcp/ip stack, etc...
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09-12-2004, 04:47 AM
I got to test this. The problem is conflict between Mailstreet and Rogers, I am afraid of losing Mailstreet. I'll test this carefully, preferably when I am back from Indy.
Update: There's no conflict! Please see my DIBS on BIBS: JavaScript/Tables/Background/Animations
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09-13-2004, 04:00 PM
Has anyone here tested this on a 7510?
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09-13-2004, 04:10 PM
HaTaX, I do not think anyone has deployed BWC 4.0 for 7510 users yet.
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09-13-2004, 07:26 PM
Well, actually I meant with the 4.0 software on the handheld, I was wondering users experiances with it on that platform or if anyone had even tried it yet..
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09-13-2004, 07:44 PM
Hah! And actually I just realized I just hit 50 posts.. Maybe I'll be the first to try it on a 7510 =)
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09-13-2004, 08:08 PM
Well, hopefully I'll be on my way soon as well. Anybody have 4.0 on 7230? Any issues?
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09-14-2004, 06:50 AM
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Well, hopefully I'll be on my way soon as well. Anybody have 4.0 on 7230? Any issues?
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Looking to try it on a 7230 myself, but at my rate of post it will be out publically...Oh well!
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09-14-2004, 08:32 AM
Oh, don't be so down on yourself, I'vew been a member less than a week and I'm pretty close.
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09-14-2004, 11:53 AM
Does anyone have a list of features that Do / Do Not work with BES? If not I will try to get a copy of the OS for testing with BES and see what I can find.
Thanks
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09-14-2004, 12:00 PM
Aside from release dates... any clues at to when individual providers will start upgrading their BWS?
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09-14-2004, 03:00 PM
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09-15-2004, 02:10 AM
is it possible to program PIN to PIN (Peer-to-Peer) messages in 4.0? It doesn't work in 3.7.1 for me.
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09-15-2004, 06:39 AM
Anyone know how to load pictures into blackberry in OS 4.0, what type they have to be etc.....?
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09-15-2004, 06:32 PM
Only way I have found (other than using the much discussed screensaver application developed by Klaus Thiele) is to go to a web page, go into SELECT mode, highlight a picture, and select SAVE. You can then view the picture in the PICTURES application, and set it as a home screen or standby screen as well.
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09-20-2004, 08:49 PM
Well having installed the new 4.0 OS on a ATTWS 7210, here's my findings...
Foremost, if you use NotifyLink for corporate groupwise email, attachment service has quick working. I'll investigate this more from work tomorrow, but initial findings are that it is apparently disabled with the new OS. I'll get with notifylink developers on this as well sometime this week to see what's up. Everything else works fine.
Network usage is MUCH improved. NotifyLink is a 3rd party app that installs it's own email client to check it's email from a server setup back next to the GW server. It polls every 3 mins from the device, and server pushes out emails/tasks/calendar updates as well (very inefficient I know, but GW doesn't have many options until BES 4.0 is released). When NL was polling previously with 3.7, the device would be almost unusable for about 30 secs if it had email to pull down. This works much better now. While it still slows some, it has become much more usable.
I still haven't been able to access the default BB browser, only the ATTWS mLife browser. This is because it's a work contract and they don't allow individuals access to online ATTWS accounts to setup BWS. Anyone know of a workaround for this? I don't care about the BWC email, just interested in the full BB browser. RBRO doesn't seem to work on the ATTWS browser either.
Brickbreaker is improved. I like the extra levels and looks of it, though the textured backgrounds make it a little harder to see the ball. Maybe they'll hash that one out in the final release....
I like the new search option. VERY handy.
I'm going to try to play with the TCP settings tomorrow... Still wondering what info to put in there. I'll investigate later on that one. Maybe it's nothing. Anyone know if you have to register with BWC to enable use of MobileSSH and webmessenger and all that?
Anyways, when I can take a look at more of it and get it fully enabled I'll post more....
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09-20-2004, 08:56 PM
Dunno if this is a bug or not, but when opening the mLife browser, clicking "Go To" and manually entering in a link... if the link has more characters in it than space allows, it doesn't hop down to the next line under, it starts over at the beginning of the line and puts it in front of http://
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Trying to go to http://phenix.rootshell.be/~bfrye/pics/puppy1.JPG yields 1.JPGhttp://phenix.rootshell.be/~bfrye/pics/puppy
You can't backspace or access the image. Not sure on clicked hyperllinks but they appear to be working fine.
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