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06-26-2008, 08:47 AM
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| RIM Stock Disaster Please Login to Remove! Down over 10% today, wtf ? | | Offline
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06-26-2008, 08:50 AM
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| They missed estimates by a relatively low margin, but Wall Street expected more. They will bounce back, 17% in 24 hours is a heck of a drop, but it will come back. | | Offline
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06-26-2008, 09:55 AM
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| I'M NO EXPERT BUT...
They posted some extra expenses. I suspect these were due to the pending BIS upgrade. This should pay off handsomely fairly quickly.
I also suspect thier device sales were a bit off because people (like ME!) are holding off on getting a new BlackBerry in anticipation of the new devices that will start to come out in August. With two Bold models, the Clamshell model, and the Touchscreen model, I would guess device sales will climb right back up in the next 2 quaters.
As for the iPhone 3G, although the release of the iPhone last year did nothing but BOOST BlackBerry sales (after disappointed buyers switched to BlackBerry), I do think this model will cut into BlackBerry sales a bit. It may cut RIM's market share by as much as 10%, but I would be surprised if it gets over 5%. That still means RIM would hold %33 to %38 of the WORLD Smartphone sales.
IMHO it's a GOOD DAY to BUY.
Any one willing to front me the CASH???!!!
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06-26-2008, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JerryD I'M NO EXPERT BUT...
They posted some extra expenses. I suspect these were due to the pending BIS upgrade. This should pay off handsomely fairly quickly.
I also suspect thier device sales were a bit off because people (like ME!) are holding off on getting a new BlackBerry in anticipation of the new devices that will start to come out in August. With two Bold models, the Clamshell model, and the Touchscreen model, I would guess device sales will climb right back up in the next 2 quaters.
As for the iPhone 3G, although the release of the iPhone last year did nothing but BOOST BlackBerry sales (after disappointed buyers switched to BlackBerry), I do think this model will cut into BlackBerry sales a bit. It may cut RIM's market share by as much as 10%, but I would be surprised if it gets over 5%. That still means RIM would hold %33 to %38 of the WORLD Smartphone sales.
IMHO it's a GOOD DAY to BUY.
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RIM's market share worldwide is actually less than 30% now. Apple is in third, maybe fourth depending on Nokia/SE percentages. In the US RIM has 40% percent and that market share has been growing in the last few months, while Apple has lost ground. Will the iPhone 2 sell very well? absolutely. I am sure it will sell millions of units. But i am still betting that RIM will have a better second half of the calendar year than apple. the 9000, 9100, and 9500 all launching. | | Offline
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06-26-2008, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice RIM's market share worldwide is actually less than 30% now. Apple is in third, maybe fourth depending on Nokia/SE percentages. In the US RIM has 40% percent and that market share has been growing in the last few months, while Apple has lost ground. Will the iPhone 2 sell very well? absolutely. I am sure it will sell millions of units. But i am still betting that RIM will have a better second half of the calendar year than apple. the 9000, 9100, and 9500 all launching. |
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06-26-2008, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice They missed estimates by a relatively low margin, but Wall Street expected more. They will bounce back, 17% in 24 hours is a heck of a drop, but it will come back. | You also have to consider that the subscriber base has increased with new customers without releasing any new handhelds.
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06-26-2008, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bigme You also have to consider that the subscriber base has increased with new customers without releasing any new handhelds. | 8330 was released. As well as BES 4.1.5 | | Offline
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06-26-2008, 01:32 PM
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| These dips (and on the other side, run-ups) are almost always knee-jerk reactions and overdone. They're nerve wracking but ultimately healthy for the stock. The weak holders panic and dump, giving those with some insight a cheap buying opportunity. The stock will come back, probably even make new highs, in a month or less. New products hitting the street are always a boost, and they're just too strong a company to flounder. Great product, strong vision of where they're going, and no sub-prime exposure. 
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06-26-2008, 03:16 PM
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| This is typical. While not in the same league, it reminds me of what happened to Gamestop. In May, they announced a 151% increase in profit on a 42% increase in sales compared to the year before quarter. Their stock dropped almost 4%. | | Offline
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06-26-2008, 07:55 PM
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06-26-2008, 09:12 PM
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| From this post I just purchased some RIMM shares
Im a firm believer in this company
Not that that has anything to do with this post about it dropping. But with future releases, I think RIM will be on top of APPLE no problem. | | Offline
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06-26-2008, 09:14 PM
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| I also am buying. Overreaction to missing the estimate by a hair. | | Offline
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06-27-2008, 08:55 AM
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| and the bleeding continues today | | Offline
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06-27-2008, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Surfish and the bleeding continues today | its not that serious | | Offline
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06-27-2008, 09:44 AM
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| Is it worthwhile to buy a few stocks at a time? I dont own any stocks so I am a newbie to the game. | | Offline
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06-27-2008, 09:55 PM
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| I saw the ad for stocks starting at 6.99 to 9.99 and though that was for all. Im a newbie on this for sure. RIMM is at $123 a share now haha. Sooo Ill buy one share and see what happens. | | Offline
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06-28-2008, 06:44 AM
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| I am waiting till Monday and buying another 100+ shares. I have no doubt where RIM stock will go from here! RIMM has also had a record 1st quarter. This is not Apple we are talking about but RIMM. I have owned it when I only paid 25.32 per share! | | Offline
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06-28-2008, 06:52 AM
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| Was that before or after the stock splits  | | Offline
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06-28-2008, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by data1025 Is it worthwhile to buy a few stocks at a time? I dont own any stocks so I am a newbie to the game. | This is not the forum to ask these types of questions. (For your own good.)
Speak to a financial or investment advisor if you're considering getting involved with stock trading. | | Offline
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06-28-2008, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by penguin3107 This is not the forum to ask these types of questions. (For your own good.)
Speak to a financial or investment advisor if you're considering getting involved with stock trading. | Excellent advice penguin. I would also add that NO forum is a good place for that advice, the financial/investment adviser is the way to go
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