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Default Court - 01-23-2006, 07:47 PM

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Default 01-23-2006, 10:12 PM

NTP gets only satisfaction, no money, if they win.
So obviously a settlement will be reached.
RIM is not about to destroy its cash cow.
   
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Default 01-23-2006, 10:38 PM

There is a forum for legal matters. MODS!!


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Default 01-24-2006, 02:39 AM

Really? Court?
News to me. A lawsuit?

Move to Rim Stock/Legal..
   
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Default 01-24-2006, 07:41 AM

Does anyone know if this only applies to the US or worldwide. If it applies to US only will there be any change on OUS products/services. I am thinking about getting a 7290 but am holding off to see what happens. I am based in Ireland
   
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Default 01-24-2006, 09:02 AM

US only.
   
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Default 01-24-2006, 09:43 AM

OMG, am I going to loose my Blackberry forever? I didn't know about this lawsuit thing, whatever will I do? Should I be buying duct tape and plastic to protect it?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Default 01-24-2006, 09:44 AM

306. I should ban you permanently
Yes, duct tape your BES immediately.
   
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Default 01-24-2006, 09:59 AM

Duct Tape is the only thing that works to protect a 8700 when it hits the ground, I thought everyone know that...........


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Default 01-24-2006, 10:04 AM

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I should ban you permanently
Probably, I'm clueless. Boy you are one tough moderator. That figment avatar must just be a cover, huh?
   
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Default 01-24-2006, 10:09 AM

Hey Jack - Don't be messin' with Figment
   
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Default 01-24-2006, 10:19 AM

Ok, I started to say this yesterday, but didn't want to add more junk to the thread. Since you guys seem to be in a good mood today, how about this: We start a rumor that anyone who sits quietly (based on a SEARCH of blackberryforums.com) until this thing plays out and RIM wins without paying a dime gets a free 8700. To play the game you have to be very, very quiet. Not a peep about NTP, lawsuit, lawyers, or patents until this thing is over. After its over those of you who haven't said anything (if anyone remains) should go stand by your mailbox to wait for the arrival of your brand new 8700!

Will that work?
   
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Default 01-24-2006, 10:26 AM

Man, I wish you would have mentioned it yesterday. This post today is the first I've done on this subject, I believe in all these months. I could have been on my way to winning!!!! But, will the 8700 have a camera and mp3 player, because I really need those to do my job.
   
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Default 01-24-2006, 10:34 AM

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But, will the 8700 have a camera and mp3 player, because I really need those to do my job.
Yes, it is a "special" version. It will have a camera. It can be permanently tethered to your laptop if you buy the optional Kensington cable locks. There will never, ever be data charges or a need to talk to customer service at any provider. And, it has a form of predictive text so that any time you start typing a word it will spell out the word, "S-E-A-R-C-H".
   
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Default 01-24-2006, 10:41 PM

The newest version is known as the "Dingleberry" and will have EVERYTHING EVER made for wireless devices added to it. It will cost $299 and will come with a lifetime, unconditional warranty on all parts as well as service.

Look for it in stores soon... THE "DINGLEBERRY"

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Default 01-25-2006, 09:31 AM

I'm trying to find when the Judge will make his final determination on an injuction. I thought I read somewhere that he would make the decision by 1/27/06 but I can't find it anywhere.

Has anyone else seen a date?
   
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Default 01-25-2006, 09:40 AM

No date has been announced.
   
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Default 01-25-2006, 09:51 AM

The only thing most articles say is the district judge has indicated he will have another hearing as early as early Feb. But no one really knows.
   
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Default 01-25-2006, 10:40 AM

I have ten new 8700c's to deploy and I could still send them back. I'm hate to irritate my execs if they have to change back to treos.
   
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Default Treo 700W - 01-25-2006, 11:27 AM

If you are on Exchange 2003 SP2 there is always the Treo 700W, Microsoft Windows Mobile 5 OS.


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Default 01-25-2006, 04:31 PM

Quote:
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Yes, it is a "special" version. It will have a camera. It can be permanently tethered to your laptop if you buy the optional Kensington cable locks. There will never, ever be data charges or a need to talk to customer service at any provider. And, it has a form of predictive text so that any time you start typing a word it will spell out the word, "S-E-A-R-C-H".
Ziplock bag full of luke warm salt water is highly reliable.


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Default US judge sets Feb 24 RIM injunction hearing - 01-26-2006, 06:45 AM

I thoght that this would have already been posted! its been out at least a day.

From :Reuters

US judge sets Feb 24 RIM injunction hearing By Peter Kaplan
Wed Jan 25, 6:11 PM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A hearing on a possible injunction shutting down most U.S. sales and service of the BlackBerry e-mail device has been scheduled for February 24, according to a court notice posted on Wednesday.

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U.S. District Judge James Spencer listed the hearing date on the docket for the closely watched case in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia.

The hearing in Richmond, Va. could be the final legal step before Spencer decides whether to impose an injunction on the maker of the BlackBerry, Research In Motion Ltd. (Toronto:RIM.TO - news) (Nasdaq:RIMM - news), which lost a patent infringement suit to U.S. patent holding company NTP Inc.

RIM issued a statement saying it would put up a strong argument against any injunction and disputing whether its existing customers should be subject to any injunction.

"There are compelling public interests against entry of an injunction and NTP can be fully compensated through ongoing royalty payments in lieu of an injunction," RIM's vice president of corporate marketing Mark Guibert said in a statement.

Guibert reiterated in the statement that RIM has "workaround" software that it could install that would allow its devices to avoid infringing NTP's patents.

At issue at the February 24 hearing will be whether a possible injunction and damages against RIM should be affected by an August 2005 appeals court ruling that struck down part of a jury's original findings but left standing several patent infringement rulings against RIM.

RIM shares were down 13 cents to $64.96 at the close of trading on NASDAQ.

Both sides are due to file final written response briefs with the judge on February 1.

In briefs filed before Spencer on January 17, RIM's lawyers argued that Spencer should refrain from imposing any injunction for a number of reasons, including an "exceptional public interest" in maintaining uninterrupted BlackBerry service for national security officials, among others.

NTP has asked Spencer to move ahead with the injunction. It has proposed exempting BlackBerry products used by U.S. federal, state, or local governments and giving other customers a 30-day grace period before any service shutdown.

In its statement on Wednesday, RIM said it would make the case for a longer grace period if any injunction were imposed.

NTP filed a patent infringement lawsuit against RIM in 2001, and a jury in Richmond, Va. found in NTP's favor in 2002. In 2003, Spencer granted an injunction that would have halted U.S. sales of the BlackBerry and shut down its service, but stayed the injunction pending appeal.

The two sides have met to discuss a possible settlement of the case, but without success. They reached a tentative $450 million settlement on the dispute in March, but the deal fell apart in June.

In a separate proceeding, RIM is challenging the validity of the NTP patents at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.
   
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