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juwaack68 · **What time is the hearing? -** 02-23-2006, 10:00 AM

Does anyone know the actual scheduled time of the hearing tomorrow?

udontknowjack · 02-23-2006, 10:21 AM

Does it matter. It will not be over in a day. We probably won't hear any news on this until next week sometime. I was told by RIM, the hearing could take a few days to almost a week.

berry_apps · 02-23-2006, 01:28 PM

9am EST

juwaack68 · 02-23-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by berry_apps

9am EST

Thanks for answering my question

pjdyer214 · 02-23-2006, 02:40 PM

RIM won the patent ruling. They have a workaround...this thing might be quicker than we originally thought.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...I&refer=canada

NJBlackBerry · 02-23-2006, 02:45 PM

OMG... "RIM won the patent ruling" This just absolutely screams out for MFTP.

Way quicker. It's been going on for four years now. RIM was found guilty over two years ago.

Sigh... Too hard...

bbgirl · 02-23-2006, 02:52 PM

pjdyer214

did you even read the article...?

lol...dont be so quick to cheer...there are 8 patent examples to consider...a few of them have been back and forth....

bbgirl · 02-23-2006, 02:56 PM

the bloomberg article says, that the patent office will post is final decision today.

okay, does anyone know how to actually "read" these rulings? i just spent at least an hour on this website, and man my head hurts....

pjdyer214 · 02-23-2006, 03:50 PM

I did read the article, just trying to share some relevant info on this subject. I posted the patent article to let others know that there is much more to this issue than this hearing on 2/24. Thought others could have a link to something other relevant to the topic other than more of this condescending bulletin banter. Funny that you are quick to bash my post in one message and then go on to quote the Bloomberg article in your next post!

Super Moderator...go easy on me I'm new and am just trying to share what I've found on the subject. I didn't see much else about patent ruling and was not implying that the patent ruling was the end to this...just pointing out an observation.

bbgirl · 02-23-2006, 03:52 PM

I didnt' mean for it appear as if I was bashing...I wasn't we are in this together....

i just didn't want you to get excited on just one patent denial.

please share all the info you can...we need to know as soon as it happens!!!!!!

juwaack68 · 02-23-2006, 03:59 PM

So, the hearing is at 9:00am EST. Glad we cleared that up.

Hyper7PCR · 02-23-2006, 04:01 PM

Will Larry King "CNN news" nterview with them on TV? Good Idea?

bbgirl · 02-23-2006, 04:01 PM

lol...I already have my replacement...if it doesn't go our way..

http://www.t-mobile.com/business/pro...1895&class=pda

juwaack68 · 02-23-2006, 04:04 PM

I keep telling our company sales people that our contingency 'package' includes 2 tin cans, 50 yds string, abacus, pad of paper, and a dozen golf pencils.

It's worth it to see the look on their faces.

bbgirl · 02-23-2006, 04:06 PM

lol...I have been telling them that they actually will have to come into the office.

I usually dont get to finish my sentence before they hang up...lol.

KonTiki · 02-23-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by juwaack68

I keep telling our company sales people that our contingency 'package' includes 2 tin cans, 50 yds string, abacus, pad of paper, and a dozen golf pencils.

It's worth it to see the look on their faces.

Damn you are even supplying them with the pencils and all, geez, we told them they have to buy their own pencils. Short of that we suggested to bone up on smoke signal reading skills.

bbgirl · 02-23-2006, 04:29 PM

oh my god.. i just realized, that i might have to actually see these people now..

i will have to come to work on time and be nice to them in person (....begins to sob silently)

....oh this is bad. anyone know this judge's address, so i can go and cut his grass or something!!!?

NJBlackBerry · 02-24-2006, 09:55 AM

9:55AM here and no word yet!!! I thought the hearing was at 9. What's taking so long???

<end of sarcasm>

TheEricHarris · 02-24-2006, 10:00 AM

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aaYqDu6n7LoY

This article sucks.

udontknowjack · 02-24-2006, 10:00 AM

You think that is funny, NJ. I just got an email from someone in a meeting with higherups and they wanted to know if I heard any news on the results of the hearing!!!!

UGGGGGGGHH.

jarthurs · 02-24-2006, 11:41 AM

RIM injunction? Why wasn't this posted before?!?! I better be going out and gettin' me a Treo! There's no way RIM can work around this one!

juwaack68 · 02-24-2006, 11:44 AM

I'm keeping tabs on the number of calls/emails/walkups I've had on this today. I'm up to 17! The hell with the pencils. Let them get their own pencils. And string, too! I'm not supporting that 'network'!!!

guinda35 · 02-24-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pjdyer214

I did read the article, just trying to share some relevant info on this subject. I posted the patent article to let others know that there is much more to this issue than this hearing on 2/24. Thought others could have a link to something other relevant to the topic other than more of this condescending bulletin banter. Funny that you are quick to bash my post in one message and then go on to quote the Bloomberg article in your next post!

Super Moderator...go easy on me I'm new and am just trying to share what I've found on the subject. I didn't see much else about patent ruling and was not implying that the patent ruling was the end to this...just pointing out an observation.

Well the problem with this snap analysis is that all patent rulings are appealable to the courts. RIM can win all of the patent rulings, but in the end the courts decide whether the patent rulings are valid.

What bugs me is why RIM hasn't just instituted its workaround and given us relief from all the wondering while the case winds its way through the system. I hope that it doesn't mean that the workaround doesn't actually work.

drgoodtymes · 02-24-2006, 11:50 AM

I will just be glad once thing is settled, I have had 50 emails so far from various corporate clients I have sent emails too, wanting to know about this injunction, thank god for auto text for a canned responce

whsbuss · **OS:** 4.6.0.297

The press is saying the judge will not issue a ruling until early next week. Another weekend without a resolution.

jarthurs · 02-24-2006, 12:00 PM

Maybe the judge had a bad experience with a blackberry bush when he was little. Could explain his dislike for RIM.

BBAdmin · 02-24-2006, 12:02 PM

The Bloomberg article was horrid, so one sided claiming RIM is 'likely' to be shut down. Media always love stiring this crap up. I was with some RIM product managers yesterday who were talking about multi-mode. It all seems nice and straight forward if this civil case gets in the way.

collector_edi · 02-24-2006, 12:09 PM

Play the video on the bloomberg update. There are many different flavors on a possible injunction ruling.

Bigjohn · 02-24-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by udontknowjack

You think that is funny, NJ. I just got an email from someone in a meeting with higherups and they wanted to know if I heard any news on the results of the hearing!!!!

UGGGGGGGHH.

OMG, no kidding... I just walked back into the building and had about fifteen people asking if there was a decision yet. I even had a user this morning try to blame his issues on "The blackberry shutoff."

I do like juwaack68's contingency plan. I may have to keep that in mind...

BigJohn

BBUser7100t · 02-24-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BBAdmin

The Bloomberg article was horrid, so one sided claiming RIM is 'likely' to be shut down. Media always love stiring this crap up. I was with some RIM product managers yesterday who were talking about multi-mode. It all seems nice and straight forward if this civil case gets in the way.

I have to agree about how the media is playing this. Our local news radio programming, keeps saying "A federal judge could shut down all BlackBerry service today." It sounds so ominous, and they just can't help themselves.
Not that I'm an expert, but I would imagine that these lawyers are going to be fighting this for more than just today. And even though this Judge wants to get this case off his docket, he's probably going to have to hear at least a couple of days of argument and pretend to think about it before issuing a ruling. Given that, I would think that it will probably be at least another week before he issues a ruling.

pjdyer214 · 02-24-2006, 01:18 PM

According to CNBC the judge said there will be no shut-down today.

lgreenberg · 02-24-2006, 01:18 PM

US judge stops short of BlackBerry cutoff

12 minutes ago

RICHMOND, Virginia (Reuters) - A U.S. judge on Friday stopped short of ordering an immediate shutdown of millions of BlackBerry portable e-mail devices made by Research In Motion Ltd..

But U.S. District Judge James Spencer said there was no escaping that RIM had been found to be infringing on NTP Inc.'s patents and he would issue a decision on an injunction "as soon as reasonably possible."

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060224/us_nm/rim_judge_dc

Rubicant · 02-24-2006, 02:10 PM

No news is good news for the crackberry addicts of the world.

As for the media hyping things up...lol..thats been true since 9/11.