http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...224_237362.htm

Anyone seen this? I was to collect my new 8700 on monday in Australia. This is very concerning? What now?

and this........ http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan...e_down&chan=db

If there is an injunction it will only affect U.S. blackberry users. You're in Australia so you're fine.

ugh, not another one. If you read the articles why did you post this? You already know what's going to happen if you read them.

Perhaps - just a thought - this could possibly go in the RIM Stock/Legal forum, dedicated just for this type of message...

When your right your right...I woke up this morning dredding logging on here for fear of hundreds of posts about the court case, surre enough...I have already run across 3.

Hey on a side not does anyone know when T-Mobile will have the 8700?

T-Mobile will have the 8700 30 days after RIM is shut down and we are all walking around with dead BlackBerrys.

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Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry T-Mobile will have the 8700 30 days after RIM is shut down and we are all walking around with dead BlackBerrys.

LOL...We can tell our grandkids about them, like record players and cassette tapes, and they'll just look at us and smile, of course they'll have to pay NTP royalties on smiling, I heard they have a patent on that too.



On a serious note, CNBC had a gentleman on with the best idea for the court case, and I believe it may happen. He was saying the judge could order a partial injunction, or rather a moratorium on new subscribers. Meaning everyone with a BB currently should be ok, but no new accounts until a settlement. The judge is hoping this will force both side to settle. Yes the new accounts would include BES accounts as well since they employ the patents being disputed. We'll see, but I'm sure not until Wed/Thurs of next week at the earliest.

How do we implement the "workaround'? I still dont' see any downloads on RIM's site and it will make ME look bad if they release it AFTER the injunction and I have 60 peopl ewith dead phones...

The phones won't be dead, just the e-mail service. Please read my last post...Those already running blackberries should be ok. That is if the partial injunction goes through. Have faith in RIM. They shouldn't let you down. I dont believe they are going to issue a workaround if they don't need to. Keep an eye on the news and the BB site. Besides any shut down would be 60-90 days out. NTP said they would allow RIM and carriers time to implement the changes, in short if the injunction goes through, you wont be shut down immediatly, you'll have a little time to prepare.

Of course this is speculation and conjecture on my part and have no information that is not already public knowledge. Im holding my breathe just like the rest.

Hello everyone just got my BB 2 weeks ago it's great, but is their any way I can get better sound quilty when I talk on the phone, is sounds very low. Please help

To our sales reps, not having email is a situation in which the world comes to an end.

Let's say a partial injunction does NOT go through, so where is the software update?

Even NTP was willing to allow 30 days for the injunction to actually take effect. RIM will release the workaround if needed.

what BLACKBERRY MODEL, OS, PLATFORM, AND CARRIER do you use? If you are on the CINGULAR network, they will be having a software update soon to better the voice quality on the 8700c device...don't know exactly what they are waiting for, but just wait....I already got mine updated, and I have the 8700c...sounds MUCH MUCH better....

Damn, if I had known all this, I would have gone Treo, because there is no way for RIM to work around this one!

Oh Ye of little faith, I firmly believe that RIM will win. NTP is in hurry to get injunction in effect but its not happening. Today the reps from Dept of Justice will appear in court to express their concerns.

So far yesterday Office of Patents offically rejected one of the 5 patent applications. Now it is believed that four rejections will be offically announced anytime. RIM will win.

We are not worried. I got an email from TMObile saying that they have a software ready. We will not experience any downtime or shut down.

Before you let your blood pressure go up, read all news first.

Stay of execution!

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Techn...ory?id=1656886

RICHMOND, Va. -- A judge ended a hearing over a request for an injunction against the maker of the handheld BlackBerry device without issuing a decision Friday.

Shares of BlackBerry-maker Research In Motion Ltd. rose $5.54, or 8 percent, to $75.07 on the Nasdaq Stock Market after the hearing was adjourned.

During the hearing, NTP Inc., a small patent holding firm that successfully sued Research In Motion, asked U.S. District Judge James R. Spencer to impose an injunction on the service but permit a 30-day grace period so all sides could work out the details of how to exempt government and emergency workers, among other issues.

The Arlington, Va.-based company also recommended that the judge immediately halt sales of new BlackBerry devices and award it $126 million in damages _ for starters. RIM has deposited $250 million or more in escrow, and NTP says that pot of money should be reserved just in case newer BlackBerry devices infringe on its patents.

Funny no one has mentioned the very strong possibility that 'higher levels' of power may intervene. And I'm not referring to god, but the next biggest thing.....no, not Bill Gates, but Mr Bush and friends. Surely their are Blackberry addicts in suits!?

So others can read it and we can share our opinions, isn't that what a forum is for, and besides, I was the first to bring it up, so what's your problem with sharing info huh?!

Yes, except that there is a dedicated forum just for RIM Stock/Legal issues and there must be ten new threads with exactly the same information...

I will move this there so it's in the right place.

Is Judge done?

Fair enough, I never noticed, but my qualm was with a poster arguing 'why I was even posting the information', NOT regarding 'where' I was posting it.

I believe:

- Based on the USPTO's rejections of NTP patents, I believe that Judge Spencer will be forced to delay any ruling he may have;
- If he does rule in favor of NTP and the injunction is ordered, I think we'll see Spencer taking a fairly early 'retirement'.
- NTP will file an appeal with the USPTO concerning their now invalid patents.
- The USPTO will shortly hear the appeal and uphold their reviews process - patents will remain invalid.
- NTP will appeal the USPTO ruling within a court system, thus becoming what they've been badgering RIM about for the last few years - 'squatters'.
- Visto will file a motion against RIM.
- At the hands of their shareholders, RIM will license patents from Visto rather than going to court - afterall, Visto has already had one of their patents re-examined by the USPTO (Visto vs Seven Networks) and 15 of 25 claims were approved.

I think the last two will likely happen in the short-term, and if RIM decides to pursue it within the courts/patent office, expect for the shareholders to possibly and ultimately decide the fate of BlackBerry.

I find it disturbing that Judge Spencer would rule in favor of NTP based on the new evidence that their patents have now been rejected by the patent office. I don't see why he would delay a ruling a week, to be perfectly honest, unless he is actually taking into consideration today's USPTO rejections.