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Old 08-26-2008, 05:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
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wrt to wifi 8320 , our guy got a look at the AT&T roadmap in the beginning of July 08 and say's that both the Bold and a Wi-Fi 8320 were on there for Q3 '08.

Looks like at least one (Bold) will miss the date.

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Old 08-26-2008, 06:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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wow... AMAZING LINK!!!


i just dont know WHY the 8320 hasnt been announced anywhere. u google it, and theres NOTHING
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UMA is basically voice over IP. It allows you to make phone calls over the WiFi connection.
AT&T will not have it.
Wouldn't you still have to have a VOIP service and wifi phone adapter to make this possible? Sorry if this is a hijack.....
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:05 PM   #24 (permalink)
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UMA is basically voice over IP. It allows you to make phone calls over the WiFi connection.

AT&T will not have it.


Wouldn't you still have to have a VOIP service and wifi phone adapter to make this possible? Sorry if this is a hijack.....
No. The wireless carrier is your service provider. What the hell is a WiFi phone adapter?
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AT&T will be releasing IMS. This has been the case for quite some time and is hardly new news. While it will be capable of doing GAN/UMA over IMS, no word on compatibility with current devices has been confirmed. The logic for this compatibility is fairly strong, so I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see if the BlackBerry 8820 or BlackBerry 8120 or even the BlackBerry 8320 on AT&T would work with the service we've come to love on T-Mobile.
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Your guess is as good as anyone else's. Of course, my T-Mobile rep. has told me otherwise. We'll see how good his crystal ball is.
I work for a tmobile store and there is a contest going on. If a rep sells 10 blackberrys or more with data plans and passes a web training test with an 80% or above we win a unreleased blackberry. I was told by someone pretty in the know that it was a bold. I dont believe them and think there talking about the javelin. But who knows i sold 7 blackberrys in two weeks so just 3 to go.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:43 PM   #27 (permalink)
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P.S. - From 9 months ago...

8320 from AT&T?

Not exactly new news about the 8320 on AT&T, either.
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No. The wireless carrier is your service provider. What the hell is a WiFi phone adapter?
Well, I may have made that up, but how do you make calls on wifi? Isn't your ISP the provider?
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With some traditional VoIP calls, the ISP is merely a transport to another provider. If your internet service provider offers VoIP technology through their own lines (BellSouth/AT&T, Comcast, etc), then that would be the only time the internet service provider would also be your carrier. Otherwise, someone else always is the carrier to your ISP's transport.

For example, Comcast cable modem with Vonage phone service. With T-Mobile's UMA service, your ISP will be the transport, but T-Mobile will still be the carrier (your usage takes away from your monthly minutes).
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With some traditional VoIP calls, the ISP is merely a transport to another provider. If your internet service provider offers VoIP technology through their own lines (BellSouth/AT&T, Comcast, etc), then that would be the only time the internet service provider would also be your carrier. Otherwise, someone else always is the carrier to your ISP's transport.

For example, Comcast cable modem with Vonage phone service. With T-Mobile's UMA service, your ISP will be the transport, but T-Mobile will still be the carrier (your usage takes away from your monthly minutes).
I understand the comcast/vonage scenario, because that's what I have, but it still requires a Vonage phone adapter installed to be able to make calls through the cable internet service. How exactly do you make phone calls on your wifi bb using tmobile minutes on a cable internet connection?
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In this case with UMA, basically, Tmobile with UMA = Vonage, and your comcast cable in both cases is the transport.

The 8320 device with UMA = Vonage phone adaptor.
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In this case with UMA, basically, Tmobile with UMA = Vonage, and your comcast cable in both cases is the transport.

The 8320 device with UMA = Vonage phone adaptor.

ah, gotcha.
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AT&T will be releasing IMS. This has been the case for quite some time and is hardly new news. While it will be capable of doing GAN/UMA over IMS, no word on compatibility with current devices has been confirmed. The logic for this compatibility is fairly strong, so I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see if the BlackBerry 8820 or BlackBerry 8120 or even the BlackBerry 8320 on AT&T would work with the service we've come to love on T-Mobile.
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In this case with UMA, basically, Tmobile with UMA = Vonage, and your comcast cable in both cases is the transport.

The 8320 device with UMA = Vonage phone adaptor.
Ok, did some more research, and it looks to me like an 8320 with UMA still only works with a wireless router from that carrier, i.e. Tmo. At home, you would have to have a tmobile wireless router to make wifi calls and away from home, wifi calling only works when connected to a tmo hotspot. So, not like I could sit in any airport or hotel with standard wireless internet and make calls over wifi, right?
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Ok, did some more research, and it looks to me like an 8320 with UMA still only works with a wireless router from that carrier, i.e. Tmo. At home, you would have to have a tmobile wireless router to make wifi calls and away from home, wifi calling only works when connected to a tmo hotspot. So, not like I could sit in any airport or hotel with standard wireless internet and make calls over wifi, right?
Nope.
You don't need the carrier's router. They only offer it for users who don't already have a home wireless network.

You can use UMA from any wireless network you are connected to. it does not have to be a T-Mobile hotspot.

Yes, you can sit in an airport or hotel with a regular wireless network and still use UMA to make phone calls over WiFi.
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Nope.
You don't need the carrier's router. They only offer it for users who don't already have a home wireless network.

You can use UMA from any wireless network you are connected to. it does not have to be a T-Mobile hotspot.

Yes, you can sit in an airport or hotel with a regular wireless network and still use UMA to make phone calls over WiFi.
Well, that's very cool. Wish Verizon had that. Wish I had HSDPA too. Heck, I just wish I had wifi on my BB. Eh, I went for network before features. Love the network though.
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*NEW INFO*

was curious, so i swung by my local at&t store and spoke with an employee who's helped me in the past regarding info/service.

He says that his store was told that THEY will be receiving them at the end of August (which is... NOWWWWWW), and they heard this week that they should receive this in a week.........

KEEP YOUR EYES AND EARS OPEN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
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*NEW INFO*

was curious, so i swung by my local at&t store and spoke with an employee who's helped me in the past regarding info/service.

He says that his store was told that THEY will be receiving them at the end of August (which is... NOWWWWWW), and they heard this week that they should receive this in a week.........

KEEP YOUR EYES AND EARS OPEN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
the new wifi curve or the bold?
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i made this thread for the CURVE, not Bold... so Curve
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*NEW INFO*

was curious, so i swung by my local at&t store and spoke with an employee who's helped me in the past regarding info/service.

He says that his store was told that THEY will be receiving them at the end of August (which is... NOWWWWWW), and they heard this week that they should receive this in a week.........

KEEP YOUR EYES AND EARS OPEN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
I know it's been said otherwise, but I still think this is about the Bold.
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