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Angry Tmobile has 3g now, where's my blackberry? - 11-10-2008, 08:53 PM

Tmobile finally has 3g in Orlando. I live in Orlando. Where is my 3g blackberry? Does anyone know of even a rumor of one? Bold = ATT, Storm = Verizon, XXX = Tmobile?

If it's a touch screen I'm going to be very upset as well.

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For now, there is no future for t-mobile, I'm sure they will press the Bold in mid 2009
   
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Default Re: Tmobile has 3g now, where's my blackberry? - 11-10-2008, 09:39 PM

AT&T uses a different frequency band for 3g (1900 MHZ), T-Mobile uses the 1700 MHZ band for their 3G. Thus, there is no Blackberry for T-Mobile upcoming unless there is a variant in the works for the separate band of 3G for the Bold, or if AT&T gives up on the Javelin and passes the blackberry torch to T-Mobile. I hear that the latter is probable due to the refusal by AT&T to release any new 2G devices that use data.
   
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Default 11-11-2008, 08:45 AM

The javelin will be out for both ATT and T-Mo, but is not a 3G device (so it doesn't really apply here).


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the Javelin for ATT is being developed with 3G according to the rumors
   
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Default 11-11-2008, 10:40 AM

The rumors are that the 2nd gen javelin might have 3G, but the 8900 has constructed does not (as evidenced by the ATT units that have been reviewed).


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Default 11-11-2008, 02:01 PM

I get the feeling that Tmob is smarter than ATT with the 3g hype. They may "have it" in places and show it on the cute little coverage maps but "having it" and really being able to use it all over are 2 different things. Once they get their 3g system truly developed they'll follow with the BB phones. Don't forget how many of the BB users are corporate. they don't really have to have 3g, so until 3g is universal it's OK to wait.


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Default 11-11-2008, 06:56 PM

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I get the feeling that Tmob is smarter than ATT with the 3g hype. They may "have it" in places and show it on the cute little coverage maps but "having it" and really being able to use it all over are 2 different things. Once they get their 3g system truly developed they'll follow with the BB phones. Don't forget how many of the BB users are corporate. they don't really have to have 3g, so until 3g is universal it's OK to wait.
So you're saying T-MO is smart for having limited coverage and limited devices?

I have 3G everywhere I use it (haven't travelled with the Bold yet) and it's a major improvement.


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Default 11-12-2008, 01:37 AM

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So you're saying T-MO is smart for having limited coverage and limited devices?

I have 3G everywhere I use it (haven't travelled with the Bold yet) and it's a major improvement.
No, he's simply saying that reliable 2G coverage is more important than spotty 3G coverage. You may have excellent 3G coverage, but a majority of us do not. After seeing what 3G coverage is like here in the states compared to Europe, I will stick with good 'ol reliable EDGE any day.


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Default 11-12-2008, 07:35 AM

Bwahahahahaha! The Javelin is to get 3G, but once again T-Mo gets shut out. Nobody is paying any attention to AWS because T-Mobile has been basically mute on their plans, done little or no advertising, and rolled it out so slowly. I can't tell you how glad I am that I bailed on TMo and went to AT&T!
   
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Default 11-12-2008, 08:45 AM

Maybe TMO should worry about their coverage in general and not so much 3G. Here is the map of NJ coverage of both carriers. Who would you go with?
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Default 11-12-2008, 09:14 AM

Agreed. There is no way you can look at the US as a whole, or most major markets in general, and you could say T-Mo has better 2G, let alone, 3G coverage.


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Default 11-12-2008, 09:16 AM

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No, he's simply saying that reliable 2G coverage is more important than spotty 3G coverage. You may have excellent 3G coverage, but a majority of us do not. After seeing what 3G coverage is like here in the states compared to Europe, I will stick with good 'ol reliable EDGE any day.
That's just wrong. Plus, if I don't have 3G coverage I still have ATT's EDGE network, which has better coverage than T-Mo's EDGE network.


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Default 11-12-2008, 09:28 AM

Looks like this topic has changed to "Who has better service T-MO or AT&T"

Which will bring tons of different opinions. In some places AT&T has better coverage and in some places T-MO has better coverage.

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Looks like this topic has changed to "Who has better service T-MO or AT&T"

Which will bring tons of different opinions. In some places AT&T has better coverage and in some places T-MO has better coverage.

To each his own.
I'm not saying either one is better. Its where you use the phone that counts. I'm only saying maybe TMO should shore up its basic coverage before making the jump to 3G. Without doing that, they will never be anything bigger then the #4 carrier.


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I'm not saying either one is better. Its where you use the phone that counts. I'm only saying maybe TMO should shore up its basic coverage before making the jump to 3G. Without doing that, they will never be anything bigger then the #4 carrier.
Well, I wasn't specifically speaking to you. But since you replied.

You stated that you are not saying either one is better; then you go on to say TMO is currently the #4 carrier. So, where does AT&T fit in there? Sounds like a comparison to me and sounds as if you are saying AT&T is better.

Nothing wrong with that. In your area, AT&T may have better coverage. But, where I live, work and play T-MO has better coverage.

I'm simply saying you will get tons of different opinions based on the geographic location of the individual.

So, again, To each his own.

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Default 11-12-2008, 06:15 PM

blah blah blah,Sounds like another tmo bashing party to me, I have both tmo and att, and IMO my tmo coverage is better in some places and vise versa, I travel through PA, NJ, NYC. tmo is best in NYC and att in NJ and there the same in PA spotty at best.
I prefer tmo due to my employee pricing package, 10.00 a month for everything, verses my att plan. TMO will drop the 8900 in this quarter. the 8900 is being shown w an att sim card installed hence the logo, this is not att branded by any means.
   
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the 8900 is being shown w an att sim card installed hence the logo, this is not att branded by any means.
Wrong, its branded on the back of the unit.

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Would Tmobile not having 3g / 3g blackberry be a reason to break the contract and not pay the fees?
   
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Default ATT 3g - Flaky Here - 12-31-2008, 02:05 PM

OK - Had TMobile. Wanted 3G so got an Iphone. Yep - it has 3G, but 3G absolutes sucks the power right out of it. AND, just as bad, ATT 3G is not as "solid" as TMO Edge. 3G works and then standing in same place bars drop, phone goes out - then a few minutes later snaps back at 3 or 4 bars. Then a few minutes later drops out. Happens all over town. I think ATT needs to do a lot more work on their 3G network before it is ready for the big show.
   
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Default 12-31-2008, 02:09 PM

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Would Tmobile not having 3g / 3g blackberry be a reason to break the contract and not pay the fees?
Can't believe no one replied to this earlier, but no.
   
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I'm not on contract anymore, but if I were a power user I think it may be reason to break your contract and leave.
As it is now not being on contract I looked at leaving anyway for a Storm, Bold or iPhone, but I'm not a power user even though a Storm type device is what I'm looking for. In the end though I'll probably just stay with TMO and get the 8900. No 3G but reviews seam say it's close in speed and edge is more reliable. I dearly wanted a touch screen but can't justify the increase in costs.
   
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Well, now I'm not certain if I read that post right when I replied. If the poster was referring to getting out of their contract without paying an ETF, then no. But if he/she was questioning whether to move to a different carrier, that's a choice up to them.
   
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I got a Tmo 8900 2 weeks ago and hated how slow it browsed over EDGE, then I installed Opera which was more tolerable but still a pain.
I "borrowed" a G1 to play with Tmo's 3G and I'm pretty impressed with the speed of browsing compared to the BB!
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[quote=pda luvr;1287022]I got a Tmo 8900 2 weeks ago and hated how slow it browsed over EDGE, then I installed Opera which was more tolerable but still a pain.
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I came to this thread to learn if TMO had "thrown their hat" into the BB 3G ring. I see the answer is a simple NO.edge doesn't hold a candle to 3g whether it be ATT 3g or VZW and sprints EVDO. I have a sprint,SEP curve and at 99 per month, "all you can eat" EVERYTHING, guess I'll be waiting some time for something better.money and speed wise to come along. Guess I'll have to ride out this contract...


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T-Mobile will have 3G blackberry this year according to my rep here in Chicago. I trust her since she was right about the new pearl and curve back few years ago. Also about the 3G roll out. One thing is for sure that there wont be a 3G bb within the next 6 months. So if you want the new curve just get it with 1 year contract and wait till the unknow 3G berry comes to TM. She also re-assured me that Bold will NOT I repeat will NOT be on TM. Either a new berry is coming out which i highly doubt since we have not seen any leaks or the storm is coming which I also highly doubt so most likely the curve will get 3G flavor so is AT&T.

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I came to this thread to learn if TMO had "thrown their hat" into the BB 3G ring. I see the answer is a simple NO.edge doesn't hold a candle to 3g whether it be ATT 3g or VZW and sprints EVDO. I have a sprint,SEP curve and at 99 per month, "all you can eat" EVERYTHING, guess I'll be waiting some time for something better.money and speed wise to come along. Guess I'll have to ride out this contract...
I'm a little disappointed about 3G but I'm guessing most people will only need 3G for teathering. My observations are that the browser on the 8xxx series seems to suck even on WiFi. Suck meaning painful scrolling (yes even on 4.5) and butchered layouts. iPhone is marginally better but Safari crashes constantly, especially when listening to music. Lets face it there is only so much you can do on a small screen, and not every site will go through the hassle of setting up a mobile version that doesn't drop +90% of the content.
T-Mo still has a better rate plan for me. $90 gives me all I can eat everything, on egde but it still works.
   
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You have a great point eric. It's really difficult to have a pleasant experience with a small screen and undeniable slow speeds from either 3G or Wifi. All you get is a portable way of using the net that could fit conveniently in the palm of your hands.


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Any new news on this topic? Seems ridiculous that Tmobile STILL doesn't have a 3G blackberry :(
   
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They hardly have 3g, it's gonna be awhile before they get their own 3g Bb. Not this year I can tell you that much. I bet their first 3g phone won't be a Blackberry, because 3g Bbs aren't really any faster than EDGE at web downloads. Other phones are faster on 3g.


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They hardly have 3g, it's gonna be awhile before they get their own 3g Bb. Not this year I can tell you that much. I bet their first 3g phone won't be a Blackberry, because 3g Bbs aren't really any faster than EDGE at web downloads. Other phones are faster on 3g.
T-Mobile has about 10 3G handsets on sale already. Please check your facts.


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Any new news on this topic? Seems ridiculous that Tmobile STILL doesn't have a 3G blackberry :(
my opinion is that the TMO 3G infrastructure is not mature enough to warrant a new 3g BB device. . .

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I had a T-mobile Edge Blackberry then I had a Sprint 3g Blackberry.. HUGE HUGE HUGE difference on download speeds.. just wow.


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They hardly have 3g, it's gonna be awhile before they get their own 3g Bb. Not this year I can tell you that much. I bet their first 3g phone won't be a Blackberry, because 3g Bbs aren't really any faster than EDGE at web downloads. Other phones are faster on 3g.
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T-Mobile has about 10 3G handsets on sale already. Please check your facts.
I was right. Tmob didn't release a BB as their first 3g handset. I just didn't realize they already had 3g units for sale. Thanks. For some reason 3g networks make other brands of phones a lot faster (compared to 2g/EDGE) than they make Blackberry phones. Somebody cited a reason for that but I forget what it was.


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I was right. Tmob didn't release a BB as their first 3g handset.
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Cool 06-12-2009, 04:12 AM

One word: ONYX.

3G BlackBerry FOR T-MOBILE USA!!!

Rumored to hit stores in SEPTEMBER, and this is NOT the EDGE only 8500 that now has its own forum. The Onyx will most likely be given a 9XXX designation like the Bold and other GSM 3G BlackBerries.


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One word: ONYX.

3G BlackBerry FOR T-MOBILE USA!!!

Rumored to hit stores in SEPTEMBER, and this is NOT the EDGE only 8500 that now has its own forum. The Onyx will most likely be given a 9XXX designation like the Bold and other GSM 3G BlackBerries.
Thanks for the hope! The reason this is important to me is that I need to add a new employee to my plan and nows the time to either stay with Tmobile (great pricing) or switch to someone like AT&T with more features.
   
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I would be surprised to see the onyx ship in september, for any device coming out after the summer as far as sales theres little point bringing them out a long way before the holiday season and you would think that an extra couple of months would have a noticeable benefit to the quality of the software, which is something they are bound to be aware of after some of the criticisms of bold and storm software on release when compared with earlier blackberry products.
   
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Exclamation 06-17-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by skeevecr View Post
I would be surprised to see the onyx ship in september, for any device coming out after the summer as far as sales theres little point bringing them out a long way before the holiday season and you would think that an extra couple of months would have a noticeable benefit to the quality of the software, which is something they are bound to be aware of after some of the criticisms of bold and storm software on release when compared with earlier blackberry products.
Well, like I said, moot point for me, anyway.... I'm not gonna be eligible for upgrade 'til January.

In the meantime, T-Mobile needs to get off their lazy bums and release an OS update for the 8900!


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