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Old 05-18-2009, 09:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Boy Genius Reports that the Tour (9630) and Atlas are dropping at the same time on Verizon Wireless (this summer). Does anyone have any idea what Atlas is?

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Old 05-18-2009, 09:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Perhaps the BB Atlas is the Storm 2?
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Storm 2 is "Oden"?

I have never heard of the Atlas.
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Storm 2 is Odin, don't know a release.
Atlas is suppose to drop a week or two after the Tour, will have Wi-Fi. Different than Tour.
Aries still got a while before release.
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I think the Atlas is actually the Storm 2. Not many references to Oden out there. There were a couple early on, but not now.

But does it really matter? These devices will hit when the carriers are ready, not before.
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All these rumors.. I really wish we would hear something official!

(I really think I'm slowly killing my Curve lol)

But yea this is the first I've heard about the Atlas.. Could the Atlas be the new CDMA Pearl Flip, thats the only other BB rumor I've seen on VZW that is suppose to be released soon.
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I think the Atlas is actually the Storm 2. Not many references to Oden out there. There were a couple early on, but not now.

But does it really matter? These devices will hit when the carriers are ready, not before.
No the Atlas is not the Storm 2. They haven't even started production on the Storm 2 let alone release it next month? No. It's a different device.
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Atlas = Tour with Wifi
Odin = Storm 2
Apex = CDMA Pearl Flip
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So is Atlas going to hit VZW or only overseas?
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So is Atlas going to hit VZW or only overseas?
If it turns out to just be a worldphone with wifi then it would tend to be just for vzw, but it also seems pretty unlikely that they would want to confuse their customers by launching two almost identical devices and its more likely that the atlas is a project at a much earlier stage that has had its name leaked e.g. maybe its an initial plan for the tour 2 and is over a year away.
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So can I take this to mean that the Atlas will be a world phone with wi-fi?
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Atlas = Tour with Wifi
Odin = Storm 2
Apex = CDMA Pearl Flip
I understand that there is some merit to the rumor about the Broadcom chip set in the 9630 infringed on someones patent. Sprint was originally rumored to be the launch carrier for the 9630, but decided to wait for redesigned chip set instead of paying royalties to the patent holder. I don't think that this process caused a long delay as I hear that Sprint is currently testing this phone.

I'm still holding out hope that the Sprint version with the alternate chip set will actually be the BlackBerry Atlas (Tour with WiFi). Verizon did mention that all future BlackBerrys after the Tour would include WiFi did they not? This new CDMA chip set may very well be what made this possible.

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I understand that there is some merit to the rumor about the Broadcom chip set in the 9630 infringed on someones patent. Sprint was originally rumored to be the launch carrier for the 9630, but decided to wait for redesigned chip set instead of paying royalties to the patent holder. I don't think that this process caused a long delay as I hear that Sprint is currently testing this phone.
Really, I've always heard Sprint's rumored release date was Q3/4 of this year and that has been since Jan/Feb.

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I'm still holding out hope that the Sprint version with the alternate chip set will actually be the BlackBerry Atlas (Tour with WiFi). Verizon did mention that all future BlackBerrys after the Tour would include WiFi did they not? This new CDMA chip set may very well be what made this possible.

Here's to hoping!
Hope your right.. Guess I should wait a bit before getting the Tour.. A CDMA Berry with Wifi, we can dream right.
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There is a Gemini which is the extension of the curve correct?
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The Gemini, that's the 85xx model with the optical trackball, more or less a refreshed 83xx Right?

So many damn models to think about....

The weird thing is it's named the Gemini not the Curve (so it doesn't officially carry on the series like the 8900), have 3 different sets of Curve would a bit confusing.. However carriers will probably stop carrying the 83xx series soon enough anyway.
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Here's the Atlas, renamed the Essex.

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Its really impossible for RIM to get things right isnt it?
Surely they knew that with the Gemini due to be coming out not long after the tour, that they should have held back the tour and put in the trackpad.
They also should have realised that the lack of wi-fi was going to be a complaint.

Why could they not sit down and go this is what we need for this device, lets not release anything till its ready.
as opposed to releasing so many devices to upgrade NEW devices already, that people are going to be even ore confused about which BB to buy, and end up buying something else that they can easily decide for.

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I would have to agree. Its like their current logic is more phones are better, rather then a few or several very well designed phones are better. Less phones with more type deal. Why release the Tour mid-summer only to replace in the fall or winter of the same fiscal year with a device that looks just like it, same form factor, but add wi-fi and an optical track?
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Perhaps they are hoping that true blackberry addicts are going to ditch the tour and buy at RRP or close to the "essex".
They wont be able to upgrade to it, being say only 6 months ish into a new contract, so if they want it they will have to buy it.
more money for RIM instead of a knock down prices for the carriers.
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Actually, I think that they may be trying to satisfy fanboys like us. We're constantly complaining that there are few updates to phones and that RIM always takes forever to get devices to market. Could you imagine if we were still waiting on the Tour? Yes, the Tour had a so-so launch. Yes, it has no Wi-Fi. Yes, the trackball has been a big problem. But could you imagine if they pulled it for another 6 months? RIM operates in a very competitive world, one that requires a time to market solution rather than the perfect solution. They're under pressure, and it's showing.
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