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Old 07-23-2009, 08:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
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This is what I don't get now... After looking at the Crackberry.com video of the Storm 2 which is a Rogers GPRS (3G) device, I wonder if the Rogers 99xx Pluto device product info shots I have seen on the internet are fake because usually one cell network gets one of the new devices and the other cell network gets the other, as they usually enter into an agreement with RIM to exclusively offer the device for a year!?
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Old 07-24-2009, 05:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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While the screenshots around so far are almost certainly fakes (photoshop of bold and storm by the looks) the actual device will turn up at some point, personally I think it won't be till next year since the onyx is probably going to turn up at the ideal time for people wanting to upgrade their bold later this year.
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A little bird whispered in my ear yesterday that the previously planned release of the Touchschreen Bold with QWERTY keyboard for the end of this year has been pushed back due to the Storm 2. Who do we thank? Apple.... The Storm 2 is the response to the iPhone 3gs. Thank you apple for your help in pushing back the release of a beautiful creation.

Although the Storm 2 is looking pretttttttttty good. And, on a brighter note, it will give RIM more time to perfect the Pluto. So it's not completely a bad thing.
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Old 07-28-2009, 02:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I think your little bird is more than a little mistaken for a number of reasons, firstly the storm 2 was always going to be showing up as an upgrade to the storm and thats nothing to do with the marginal upgrade of the 3g to the 3gs, RIM wouldn't introduce a new form factor one year and cast it totally aside after that. Secondly storm and bold aren't aimed at exactly the same demographics so releasing one wouldn't prevent a release of the other as shown last year.

Out of the currently leaked devices, the one that would be most likely to push back a new bold-style device is probably onyx, despite its curve-size you have a pretty high-specced qwerty device going to multiple carriers that would appeal to a similar demographic to a new bold.
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I think your little bird is more than a little mistaken for a number of reasons, firstly the storm 2 was always going to be showing up as an upgrade to the storm and thats nothing to do with the marginal upgrade of the 3g to the 3gs, RIM wouldn't introduce a new form factor one year and cast it totally aside after that. Secondly storm and bold aren't aimed at exactly the same demographics so releasing one wouldn't prevent a release of the other as shown last year.

Out of the currently leaked devices, the one that would be most likely to push back a new bold-style device is probably onyx, despite its curve-size you have a pretty high-specced qwerty device going to multiple carriers that would appeal to a similar demographic to a new bold.
Forgot to specify; Rogers doesn't have a touch-screen Blackberry yet. The Touchscreen Bold was supposed to be for Rogers this year but is being pushed back and the Storm 2 is going to be released instead.
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Rim do have a carrier in canada that offers the storm though, Rogers aren't big enough that they are supposed to get anything, they simply get offered suitable devices when RIM produce them nowadays.
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Rim do have a carrier in canada that offers the storm though, Rogers aren't big enough that they are supposed to get anything, they simply get offered suitable devices when RIM produce them nowadays.
...Rogers usually has a better phone selection than the other CDMA carriers. They lucked out with the Storm but Rogers still had the Bold long before that happened while the rest only had Curve. Rogers also had the Pearl Flip before the others offered it as well.

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^^Rogers isn't small in Canada.
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^^Rogers isn't small in Canada.[/quote]

No, Rogers is not small in Canada. But in an international context, their subscriber base (abt 7 million) is very small. They have a better selection of devices as a result of being the only GSM carrier in Canada, and GSM being the version most manufacturers offer first (Palm Pre is an exception).

I don't think they have any sway with RIM or anyone else beyond that.

Sometimes being the sole GSM carrier can be a detriment. Apple took a long time launching the iPhone here and I suspect it was because they didn't want to be held "hostage" to Rogers' monopolistic practices.
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^^Rogers isn't small in Canada.
Nowadays RIM have a global view though, the main ones for them will be verizon and at&t along with the global networks like vodafone, t-mobile etc.
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