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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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Storm 2 Video!! -
07-22-2009, 12:32 PM
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BlackBerry Eagles Fan
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07-22-2009, 12:44 PM
I know it's early yet, but I am not really impressed at all.
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
When you take things for granted, the things you are granted, get taken.
Even a mosquito doesn't get a pat on the back until it starts to work.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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Carrier: T-mobile
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Not upgrading -
07-22-2009, 05:41 PM
So far it doesn't look worth upgrading from 9530 to 9550.
Thanks for the video !!
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Bay Harbor Butcher
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07-22-2009, 09:14 PM
I want to see some hard proof of Wifi 
For the first time I feel the future might hold something different for me. It's possible I'm fooling myself but I'm willing to take the risk.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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Location: Toronto, Canada
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07-23-2009, 09:49 AM
Wow finally Rogers is going to be offering the Storm2... So that does mean now that Bell and Telus will be offering the Bold replacement? 
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BlackBerry Genius
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07-23-2009, 10:47 AM
If you notice it has no branding.
Just because it says Rogers on the screen, doesnt mean rogers will have, just means that the device is unlocked (was never locked) and the guy showing is using a rogers sim.
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"Hey, was he talking about what I think he was talking about?"
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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Join Date: May 2007
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07-23-2009, 10:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnightdraven
If you notice it has no branding.
Just because it says Rogers on the screen, doesnt mean rogers will have, just means that the device is unlocked (was never locked) and the guy showing is using a rogers sim.
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1st, the phone has the verizon desktop logo.
2nd, if you look closely there is a signal bar when he turns it on. Unless all CDMA and GRPS phones work on each others network now meaning I can take my Bold from Rogers and put a CDMA SIM in it and use it on the CDMA 3G network the phone would not show any signal strength regardless if it's unlocked and from a CDMA 3G on a GRPS 3G network.
:D
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BlackBerry Eagles Fan
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07-23-2009, 11:01 AM
1st, you can unlock vendor controlled themes. This doesn't prove anything.
http://blackberryfaq.com/index.php/H..._Locked_Themes
2nd, there is no such thing as a CDMA SIM card. And the Storm does work on both GSM and CDMA frequencies, if unlocked.
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
When you take things for granted, the things you are granted, get taken.
Even a mosquito doesn't get a pat on the back until it starts to work.
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Last edited by jsconyers : 07-23-2009 at 11:06 AM.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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07-23-2009, 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsconyers
1st, you can unlock vendor controlled themes. This doesn't prove anything.
2nd, there is no such thing as a CDMA SIM card.
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You know what mean, CDMA network phones don't work on GPRS (or GRPS) networks. Thus the demo phone of the 9550 would have not shown any signal if it had CDMA hardware in it. :o)
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BlackBerry Eagles Fan
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07-23-2009, 11:11 AM
That is not entirely true. The 8830 runs on international GPRS/GSM networks with a SIM card. The Storm runs on both international and North American GPRS/GSM networks. Notice how you will see 9530 users on AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. The Tour is the same as the Storm 9530.
I would imagine the 9550 would be the same. I haven't seen any specs to confirm this yet.
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
When you take things for granted, the things you are granted, get taken.
Even a mosquito doesn't get a pat on the back until it starts to work.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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07-23-2009, 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsconyers
That is not entirely true. The 8830 runs on international GPRS/GSM networks with a SIM card. The Storm runs on both international and North American GPRS/GSM networks. Notice how you will see 9530 users on AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. The Tour is the same as the Storm 9530.
I would imagine the 9550 would be the same. I haven't seen any specs to confirm this yet.
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Well I have tired the Storm from Bell and Telus here in Toronto on my Rogers SIM is it does not work. I have even tried it with my friends SIM from his Storm in my Bold and no signal.
I think it's up to the carriers to purchase the devices that have the correct hardware inside them otherwise you would have people lining up for miles who were on the Rogers GPRS network at the Bell stores (CDMA) who really wanted a Storm.
Also I know that carriers enter in exclusive contracts with RIM when they carry the devices so I am willing to be one of the clauses are the device works on their network only. I use to work for a software company that was a Telus dealer as well so I got to learn the ins and outs of how they do business with RIM.
Last edited by SmoothRunnings : 07-23-2009 at 11:21 AM.
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BlackBerry Genius
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07-23-2009, 11:19 AM
the Storm and the Storm 2 work on both CDMA AND GSM networks...
Also as its a very early test unit, i would assume it was never locked to a network and doesnt have the themes "locked" to begin with.
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"Hey, was he talking about what I think he was talking about?"
"If you mean time-traveling bunnies, then yes."
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BlackBerry Eagles Fan
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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07-23-2009, 11:24 AM
Was the Storm you tried unlocked? If not, then it wouldn't work. Also, the SIM in the Storm is for international use. It is not active unless the user calls the carrier (Bell or Telus in your case) and asks to provision the device for international use. That would explain why it wouldn't work in your Bold.
Normally you would be correct. But seeing how CDMA is typically used in North America and very rarely used in other countries, they've began making them GSM/GPRS capable to support those that travel outside of NA.
As for the exclusivity contracts, yes, they do exist. However, the Storm 9530 is exclusive to Verizon here in the US. However, people have purchased them, had them unlocked and use them on AT&T and T-Mobile.
Take a look here for some more info:
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...-t-mobile.html
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
When you take things for granted, the things you are granted, get taken.
Even a mosquito doesn't get a pat on the back until it starts to work.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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07-24-2009, 06:27 AM
Logically there's no point to RIM locking any hardware until its actual shipping product, doing otherwise would just make things more difficult for themselves with regards to all the certification and approval stuff they need to complete before launching a new device.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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07-25-2009, 11:22 AM
I came across this article today and tought I'd throw it on here. No real new info on the device, especially not that elusive release date. It is kind of an interesting read tho.
enjoy.
New Details Emerge About The Storm 2 AKA BlackBerry 9550 – SoftSailor
I just want a honest weeks pay, for a honest days work - Steve Martin.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-01-2009, 10:52 AM
So what's really new or different with the Storm 2? Did I miss something? It looks like in the Video he's playing with the same phone?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-01-2009, 11:56 AM
I might be wrong, but from the looks of the video, the Storm 2 has a solid touch screen this time; as for the first one the entire screen moved slightly when pressing it down. And I'm sure the Storm 2 will probably have an updated version with added features.
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Bay Harbor Butcher
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08-01-2009, 04:55 PM
The whole thing is a touch screen yes, no separate keys for phone, menu, back keys.
For the first time I feel the future might hold something different for me. It's possible I'm fooling myself but I'm willing to take the risk.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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08-01-2009, 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveO86
The whole thing is a touch screen yes, no separate keys for phone, menu, back keys.
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I figured they would eventually make the BB Storm a full touch screen device.
Tony
"Some things Man was never meant to know. For everything else, there's Google."
"I'm not anti-social; I'm just not user friendly"
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Bay Harbor Butcher
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08-01-2009, 10:40 PM
Yea, I just want to see how that SurePress works out... If it isn't a one handed device it isn't a BlackBerry 
For the first time I feel the future might hold something different for me. It's possible I'm fooling myself but I'm willing to take the risk.
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08-02-2009, 12:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveO86
I want to see some hard proof of Wifi 
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WIFI = new phone for me. If storm2 has it im getting it.
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Bay Harbor Butcher
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08-02-2009, 10:51 AM
Very true I might give it that 30 day test run VZW lets me have.. I'm interesting in using the Storm 2 with an external keyboard
It would be easier for me to bang out emails/blogs/study guides/etc !!
But the whole touch screen thing is what I don't like it has to be one handed to be BB!
For the first time I feel the future might hold something different for me. It's possible I'm fooling myself but I'm willing to take the risk.
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08-06-2009, 06:31 PM
But the whole touch screen thing is what I don't like it has to be one handed to be BB!
what's wrong with two handed?
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What is worse, ignorance or indifference?
i don't know and I don't care.
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Bay Harbor Butcher
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08-09-2009, 12:06 PM
One handed means I can be on my BB and do other things at the same time.
For the first time I feel the future might hold something different for me. It's possible I'm fooling myself but I'm willing to take the risk.
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08-10-2009, 05:14 PM
Agreed. Especially when you're driving ..
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Bay Harbor Butcher
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08-10-2009, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dhwibowo
Agreed. Especially when you're driving ..
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BB's + Driving Don't mix too well...
For the first time I feel the future might hold something different for me. It's possible I'm fooling myself but I'm willing to take the risk.
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08-14-2009, 06:34 PM
okay i have a question. my parents wouldnt let me get the BB storm when the alltel verizon merger went through cause i would have to pay market price; but im eligable for an upgrade at the end of september. does anybody know a REAL release date for the 2? would it be worth it to wait for this one even if it takes forever cause my pearl is pretty well used and i need a new phone anyways or would it be that big of a difference if i just got the old one? but then i would probly regret it; idk :/. advice?
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BlackBerry Genius
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08-14-2009, 06:35 PM
No one knows when its coming out.
hence why its still in the rumours section.
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"If you mean time-traveling bunnies, then yes."
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-15-2009, 12:25 PM
The odds are that if you are able to upgrade in september then you wouldn't have to wait more than a couple of months for it to show up since its likely that verizon will want it on sale before the holidays.
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08-15-2009, 07:12 PM
Also note.. It will probably be a tad more expensive upon release.
For the first time I feel the future might hold something different for me. It's possible I'm fooling myself but I'm willing to take the risk.
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