Just my $.02, but the 8700 series as a platform utilize the Intel chipset. The 8703e will not deviate from that, and if it did, it would have already been released since there would not be such a long test phase given the processor is the same, with some updated jvm code and more memory. RIM would not manufacture another 8700 series device yet somehow back level it to an older shipset. The 7130e does use the Intel chipset (312Mhz) the same one in the 8700 series to date.

The business 2 business customers are rumored to see it online on Sunday 9/17, so I'll log into my special Verizon page (I work for IBM) and see whether it is there or not. We get some pretty deep discounts on the 7130 and 7250, so will be interesting to see the pricing on the 8703e.

So if i understand you, your are proclaiming that current .pdf documentation is wrong, it will havr the intel chipset???

The PDF is correct. It is referring to the qualcomm chipset that handles the CDMA/EVDO radio. The CPU processor is not listed on the pdf.

feel like sharing that link, or is the web introduction going to be public for everyone - not just b2b?

Then it may in fact still be intel??

What is your source regarding the 7130e has an Intel Chipset? I could be wrong, but as far as I know, none of VZW's BlackBerry has an Intel CPU.

RIM Blackberry 7130e

The RIM BlackBerry 7130e for Verizon Wireless provides the fastest on-the-go email solution available. With near-broadband download speeds for email and web surfing, mobile professionals can really get stuff done! With fully integrated, corporate-friendly email that’s automatically received to your BlackBerry 7130e, and the amazing SureType® QWERTY keyboard technology for effortless text composition, but with true high-speed data, the 7130e is truly amazing.


Highlights

* Near-broadband download speeds for emailing and web surfing
* Fully integrated email with push capability
* HTML browsing for full internet experience
* Bluetooth wireless connectivity
* Large, beautiful color display
* Powerful on-the-go email solution when used with Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Solution add-on feature
* Viewer software for Word, Excel, PowerPoint

Advanced Features

* Attachment Viewing (Word, Excel, PowerPoint) - Yes, Open Word, Excel and Powerpoint files attached to emails
* Bluetooth Wireless Technology - Yes, Supports Headset and Car Kit Pairing
* QWERTY Keyboard - Backlit, Advanced SureType Design Is Compact And Fast
* Data Capable / Use This Phone As A Modem - Yes
* PC Synchronization - Yes

Messaging Features

* HTML Web Browsing - Full HTML and WAP Web Browsing, One-touch Access, Bookmarks, High-speed Data Downloads
* Multimedia Messaging - Yes
* Text Messaging (SMS) - Yes
* Email Client - Amazing "Push" Real-time Email, Integrate w/ Up To 10 Email Accounts, Business-secure, POP3, IMAP, S

Personalization and Fun Features

* Polyphonic Ringtones - Yes, Downloadable
* MP3 Ringtones - Yes
* Ringer Profiles - Yes, Downloadable From Verizon Wireless Get IT Now Service
* Games - Brickbreaker Pre-loaded, Downloadable Brew Titles From Verizon Wireless Get It Now Service
* Customizable Graphics - Yes, Downloadable From Verizon Wireless Get IT Now Service

Core Features

* Color Main Display - 240 x 260 Pixels, Over 65,000 Colors
* Speakerphone - Yes
* TTY Compatible - Yes, Plus M3 Hearing Aid Rated
* To-Do List - Yes
* Standard 2.5mm Headset Jack - Yes
* Alarm - Yes
* Calculator - Yes
* Calendar - Yes
* Mini-USB Port - Yes
* Vibrate - Yes
* Phonebook Capacity - N/a
* Multiple Numbers Per Name - Yes, Including Mailing and Email Addresses

Battery Life

* Battery Type - LiIon
* Talk Time - Up to 180 Minutes
* Standby Time - Up to 192 Hours

Technical Specifications

* Application Platform - Java
* Platform / Operating System - RIM OS, PXA901 "Hermon" 312MHz Processor
* High-Speed Data - EV-DO (Up to 700 Kbps) and 1xRTT (Up to 70 Kbps)
* Network Compatibility - CDMA 800, 1900
* Ringtone Types Supported - MIDI, MP3
* Predictive Text Entry - Yes, SureType® Predictive Text
* Built-In Memory - 64MB
* Dimensions - 4.60 in x 2.20 in x 0.90 in
* Weight - 4.7 oz

Compatibility Features

* Device Supports Voice Plans - Yes
* Device Supports Radio Plans - Yes
* Device Supports Blackberry Services - Yes
* Available For Purchase Without Service Plan - Yes
* Device Supports IN Messaging (TXT) - Yes

its an Intel, and the same as the 8700G

maybe i'm blind... but i dont see it?

My treo 650 has been great but i can't wait for sprint to get the 87XX series..i hope this new black 8700 is going on sprint. Anyone knows for sure or have pics ??

alright guys treat me like an 8 year old, all that means YES the 8703e WILL i repeat WILL have an intel processor??????

Look, i stated before im no pro at processors AND never owned a blackberry device.

However, I have proved someone wrong who stated that verizon blackberrys have never had intel processors.

Furthermore, someone also stated that the processor wasnt listed in the PDF Spec Sheet. He noted that only the CDMA Qual. Chip was listed.

Its still in the air, as its not listed, however there is NO reason why RIM would insert old technology in a new device, especially when their "latest" blackberry - the 7130e - has the 8700g processor (as listed in the above specs).

It is my opinion that the 8700g has an intel processor - the same as the 8700g. I suspect slowdown to be because of blackberry servers on the Verizon side, the adjustments to Ev-do, who knows what.

*Also* they removed the 8703e gif from the picture... it was there, with a t-mobile background oddly enough..

YUP!!!

Intel Centrino Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz! [/sarcasim]


relax... the intel inside or not doesn't make a huge difference... the network and the OS and memory are what really counts.

Ok, i didnt mean like a brain damaged 8 year old, I got the part about the network, ram etc... but why not have the most up to date hardware on a device that is almost a year old when you put it out...

lol, ask and ye shall receive

and if the internals are the same between the 2 phones, that really makes the only differences the screen and keyboard... Does anyone have exact dimensions on the screens, or possibly a side by side photo to see *how much* bigger the 8703's screen is? For the money difference, it better be a LOT nicer.

It was there earlier. Still in my browser cache even. Shift-reload and sure enough it's gone. Ten/eleven more days (hopefully) and we'll see what it's all about. I'd also be interested to see if Verizon stops disabling MMS with this model. -Pk

8700g - 320 x 240 pixel color display
8700c - 320 x 240 pixel color display
8700r - 320 x 240 pixel color display
8707v - 320 x 240 pixels

7130e - 240 x 260 Pixels
8100 - 240 x 260 pixel color display

notice a trend in the 87xx series?

OK folks...no need to get freaked out. A quick and clear rundown:

The 8703e uses the Intel processor. It's standard amongst the 8700-series...even the 8707v that our European friends get.

The Qualcomm setup is the RADIO that has to do with the fact that the unit is CDMA.

These are two separate issues. Yes, it has an intel processor. Yes, it has a Qualcomm radio chipset.

The 8703e is the same size as an 8700g. This is not an entirely new model or something...just a Verizon version of the same thing us GSM folks have been enjoying for a while now.

Hope that clarifies.

Does anyone know if Sprint will ever get there act together and announce plans to release the 8703? Corporately, we're stuck with Sprint/Nextel and I'm ready to shoot my Nextel 7520. Love the 7520... hate Nextel's network these days. Can't make a reliable voice call to save my life. (sorry for the mini-rant)

Hey I have a question...Can you tether the 8703e to without paying the extra $15 a month if you only use it with 1X and not EVDO? I don't even have EVDO here yet.

An 8703 is 100% worth the money to upgrade from the 7250 because of the form factor and overall appearance.

For people who have not experienced sluggishness (through OS upgrades and installing themes-ie ZEN) the sluggishness is not data performance slowness but responsiveness of the device to trackwheel turns, wheel clicks, or key inputs.

As mentioned by the individual with a test unit his sluggish comment was mentioned with his use of brick breaker.

This may already be understood by everyone but thought I would clarify.

Don't think you can without signing up for it.

Again, I am not doubting you, but can you give me a link with the following information?

OK, screw the NDA (I still won’t post any pix), but here's what I can tell you, base on my experience on the test unit. Since I am not going to post any pix or anything to prove that I have the unit, call me liar all you want, but take this for granted:

1. It seems still buggy. For one, if I use the browser to visit websites, then I put it down for a period (an hour maybe), when I picked it up again, the browser will reset to the bookmark page. I am not sure if this is a feature or bug however.

2. The device seems bigger and heavier than the Cingular 8700c, that's how I felt it.

3. Maybe it is the software, it is NOTICEBLE, I mean noticeable that the device react slower than the 8700c. (I am not going to post the software version here).

4. The device looks a lot cooler than the Cingular one (appearance-wise).

I hope you didn't think I was calling you a liar. I was actually trying to help clarify.

I don't believe it...They pulled the .GIF, the 8703E was there, it had a dimension theme...I guess someone accidentally posted that .GIF on their site and then the notice that someone hot linked it.

I called RIM and they played dumb like they had never heard of it.

jrsmooth- Does the 8703e allow MMS?

From what was posted before the software version is 4.1.0.344

what the f#ck is verizon dragging their feet for. the pearl is coming out in 4 days. I'm thinking about taking my company and jumping ship to tmobile.

honestly, who is making their decisions there?

Just out of curiosity, who are the "most of us" that you claim prefer the "reliability" of CDMA?? I don't know of any statistics at all that show that CDMA is a more "reliable" technology than GSM, and its an indisputable fact that there are a lot more GSM subscribers out there than CDMA subscribers, and therefore its a rather ridiculous claim that "most of us" prefer CDMA - for any reason.

Verizon is always last in product timing, but first in service.

I have no idea who would've stated a general preference of CDMA versus GSM but I find the whole discussion odd. GSM uses T(ime)DMA... and the other major competitor is C(ode)DMA. GSM is a consortiumstandard... 3GSM is based on WCDMA I understand (http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/3g/evolution.shtml). I almost think licensing agreements with the various FCC-equivalents of the world has more to do with it than technology (at least ~today~). -Pk

Why is there even debate of GSM in a future VERIZON (CDMA) BlackBerry thread?

Sorry, please don't laugh, I don't know how to send MMS from BB, period. But I do SMS a few times a day. If you show me general instruction on how to send MMS from BB, I may be able to tell you the answer.

The test unit I had has a different software version, later than 4.1.0.344 (by not much) but agian, I can't post it until it is official.

I spoke to my account rep. yesterday, I was told the pre-ordered units are shipping from the warehouse on 9/11.

Today I was told the shipment is on hold again but she said she will overnight them to me as soon as the shipment is authorized.

Well I don't know what to hope for now, as a long time 8700c user, I personally don't think I am missing anything major, even they never ship the 8703e.

Can you comment on responsiveness as compared to the 7103e?