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Old 09-07-2006, 08:43 PM   #521 (permalink)
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Sorry, please don't laugh, I don't know how to send MMS from BB, period. But I do SMS a few times a day. If you show me general instruction on how to send MMS from BB, I may be able to tell you the answer.
Do you have MMS listed on your menu under SMS? Or have you gone to your images and tried to send one from that menu? If it supports MMS it'll come through as an image. If not it'll send a message to go pick it up from vzwpix.com. The phone supports it but Verizon has disabled MMS on the 7130e so far and I haven't heard they're enabling it. It'd be great news if they did on the 8703e but I doubt it. Verizon has previously said they only support MMS on multimedia phones (e.g. camera phones). So I'd assume they would on any Pearl Blackberry (n+1 years away knowing Verizon). -Pk
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Old 09-07-2006, 09:36 PM   #522 (permalink)
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Can you comment on responsiveness as compared to the 7103e?
About the same, what pissed me off is that, if I have password enabled on the device, there are at least two seconds of delay right after I hit the enter key, this was on my 7103e, AND on the 8703e, which I was REALLy wondering if there is indeed a Intel processor in these two devices.

Another thing, on this test device (8703e), I found that it takes a few minutes for it to switch between 1XEV and 1X, I knew this because, when I sent a message in an elevator (no coverage), it will stay in and que, which is fine. As soon as I walk out of the elevator, my VZW cell phone get into 1XEV very quickly, but the 8703e still no signal. The message in the que either stay there (in the good days) or has a "sent failed, data pocket error" message (in the bad days). This was different on my Cingular 8700c device, unsent messages just sit there until there is coverage.
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Do you have MMS listed on your menu under SMS? Or have you gone to your images and tried to send one from that menu? If it supports MMS it'll come through as an image. If not it'll send a message to go pick it up from vzwpix.com. The phone supports it but Verizon has disabled MMS on the 7130e so far and I haven't heard they're enabling it. It'd be great news if they did on the 8703e but I doubt it. Verizon has previously said they only support MMS on multimedia phones (e.g. camera phones). So I'd assume they would on any Pearl Blackberry (n+1 years away knowing Verizon). -Pk
Sorry pal, maybe it just me that stupid, I can't find anything near MMS on the 8703e.
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By having messages not send versus having them wait for service it saves battery on the device so it doesnt keep searching. it is the same way on the 7250.
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By having messages not send versus having them wait for service it saves battery on the device so it doesnt keep searching. it is the same way on the 7250.
Hmmm, maybe I didn't make it clear, on my Cingular 8700c, unsent messages are sent as soon as coverage's available, while on the VZW 8703e and the 7103e, unsent messsages are sent as soon as coverage's available (20% of the time, which I prefer), or simply timeout themselves (80% of the time) with error "Data packet error), when I need go into each message and hit resent again, which drives me nuts.
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Minor point but does the 8703e offer vibrate AND ring or still only has vibrate THEN ring?
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Hmmm, maybe I didn't make it clear, on my Cingular 8700c, unsent messages are sent as soon as coverage's available, while on the VZW 8703e and the 7103e, unsent messsages are sent as soon as coverage's available (20% of the time, which I prefer), or simply timeout themselves (80% of the time) with error "Data packet error), when I need go into each message and hit resent again, which drives me nuts.
I see what you are saying. It is the same on the 7250. I experience the same thing. So those with VZW now shouldnt notice a difference if they have yet to use another 8700c/g
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Minor point but does the 8703e offer vibrate AND ring or still only has vibrate THEN ring?
Same as 8700c, I only see Loud, Vibrate, Quiet, Normal, Phone Only and Off. I only use the device in Vibrate or Phone Only mode, so I don't even know what ring tones are available in the device, other than the default Cingular tone.

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Just out of curiosity, who are the "most of us" that you claim prefer the "reliability" of CDMA?? I don't know of any statistics at all that show that CDMA is a more "reliable" technology than GSM, and its an indisputable fact that there are a lot more GSM subscribers out there than CDMA subscribers, and therefore its a rather ridiculous claim that "most of us" prefer CDMA - for any reason.
Im not speaking of statistics that are on a website or in consumer reports. I'm speaking of experiences of reading and posting on this forum, my own experiences and that of colleagues of mine who do the same or more traveling than i do. I carry two phones all the time, i live in CT and am in NY several times a week, aside from that i hit 2 or 3 major cities a month. Not that you care about my traveling Schedule but i'm telling you what I, others from this forum have experienced. maybe my "most of us comment" was slighlty broad but i wouldn't call it inaccurate. Why is it that I'll be walking up 54th st and my GSM blackberry (cingular, fewest dropped calls, joke) dies, ends the call for no reason, then reads full signal 5 steps ahead of that. Never happens on America's MOST reliable wireless network, ever. So to fuel the fire, GSM cannot compare!!!!
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Im not speaking of statistics that are on a website or in consumer reports. I'm speaking of experiences of reading and posting on this forum, my own experiences and that of colleagues of mine who do the same or more traveling than i do. I carry two phones all the time, i live in CT and am in NY several times a week, aside from that i hit 2 or 3 major cities a month. Not that you care about my traveling Schedule but i'm telling you what I, others from this forum have experienced. maybe my "most of us comment" was slighlty broad but i wouldn't call it inaccurate. Why is it that I'll be walking up 54th st and my GSM blackberry (cingular, fewest dropped calls, joke) dies, ends the call for no reason, then reads full signal 5 steps ahead of that. Never happens on America's MOST reliable wireless network, ever. So to fuel the fire, GSM cannot compare!!!!
Amen, Amen, Amen!

I work in midtown manhattan, used to work on wall st. I was THINKING of getting the tmob 8700g until I talked to about 10 different New Yorkers who advised me against it. I would never think about switching unless I intend to travel overseas. in fact, I believe so highly in CDMA that for my business line I bought a sprint phone.

Back to the topic on hand though, anyone excited yet im a little nervous seeing as how im about to drop 500, so this device better be the stable piece of iron I hope it is..
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I am overseas nearly 2 weeks of every month, and if it is a month I do not have to spend as much time overseas I am traveling to some major US city. I have a 7130e and 8700c and I have to say my experiences have shown me my preference is the CDMA technology over the GSM.
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you gotta love how this thread turned into a melting pot of 14 different threads, hah
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Killing time,,,,,,waiting,,,,
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and trying to decide if it is even worth the wait... remember, I'm coming from a Cingular Treo650, so I just want something that is a good PHONE, with reliable PDA functionality. It's actually looking to me like the 7130 might be the better choice for me - or maybe even the *gasp* Moto Q???
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you gotta love how this thread turned into a melting pot of 14 different threads, hah
gotta love it is right, i started this thread with all intentions that we would be comparing 8703e issues by now but no such luck. We might as well find something to complain about!!!
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and trying to decide if it is even worth the wait... remember, I'm coming from a Cingular Treo650, so I just want something that is a good PHONE, with reliable PDA functionality. It's actually looking to me like the 7130 might be the better choice for me - or maybe even the *gasp* Moto Q???
please don't waste your time with a Q, treo 700p MAYBE but no Q!!!!
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There are so many personal preference issues that decide what device. First and foremost-make sure you are looking at devices on the network that gives you the best service for your needs. Then is qwerty important, etc

Battery life on Q is a concern, among other things.
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I'm trying to get some opinions from current Q owners on another board - so I'll see how that goes. My current Treo just really turns me off of the whole Treo line.
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I have a 7130e & I have no trouble at all with suretype though I must admit that if I was doing alot of typing, I would much prefer the full QUERTY board. I really think it is a compromise: the 7130e is a better phone & the 8700 is better for inputing data. The only thing that keeps me coming back to the full board is that let's face it, for casual surfing, the 8700 wins hands down! I also have to accept the fact that even though I have only had this 7130e for the last 4 months, the poison pill is the 4 to 500 dollar outlay for a new 8700. I wish that vzw (I'm sure the other carriers are the same way) would just tack on an additional 2 years to my contract & sell (hose me on) the unit as it ain't worth anywere near the tarriff that they get you for on a new unit midway through your contract! Of coasre once I get the 8703e in my hand, Ill probably just dig myself a hole & get one! Dam'n , this love hate relationship with vzw: a wonderful network or backbone & not so wonderful wait for them to get their you know what together & get an 8700 onto the market in a reasonable time frame.
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I'm not questioning what you are saying - just why are you saying it....
Why would you say the 7130 is a better phone? and why would you say the 8700 wins for surfing?
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