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Old 09-19-2006, 07:25 PM   #1121 (permalink)
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i need "inpocket" and "junior" and others who have had the phone to give us guys still waiting till thursday first hand impressions on the phone, is it slow, any features that are disabled ?

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Old 09-19-2006, 07:42 PM   #1122 (permalink)
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fedex attempted to deliver mine today but no one was home to sign for it...now im racing to fedex to pick it up...i got 20 minutes before they close and this ricemobile civic in front of me is slowing me down with its 300 lbs. body kit...

yesss i made it in the luxurynick of time...
mine was sent from Fort Worth, TX to Boston...orderd Saturday night...

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Old 09-19-2006, 10:04 PM   #1123 (permalink)
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awesome ...........are you driving and typing on your phone? please post your impressions of the phone


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Old 09-19-2006, 10:14 PM   #1124 (permalink)
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mine is coming tomorrow. In California. Ordered Sunday. Shipped via Standard Overnight FedEx (I did not request any kind of special shipping since it comes from only 30-40 miles from where I live).

I can't wait!
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I'm diggin mine fellas, haven't really found any issues, so far favorite berry yet. if it's "sluggish" it's marginal, i'll keep everyone posted
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fedex attempted to deliver mine today but no one was home to sign for it...now im racing to fedex to pick it up...i got 20 minutes before they close and this ricemobile civic in front of me is slowing me down with its 300 lbs. body kit...

yesss i made it in the luxurynick of time...
mine was sent from Fort Worth, TX to Boston...orderd Saturday night...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA...........d@mn dude, don't wreck!
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:24 AM   #1127 (permalink)
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ok everyone will probably have theres pretty soon but here are some nice images

RIM Blackberry 8703e - infoSync World
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Old 09-20-2006, 05:56 AM   #1128 (permalink)
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Alright guys, i wanted to say that since ive seen people say that the processor for the new 8703e is indeed the MSM6500, which i dont know if it's "fact" and true, but we'll have to just have one of you guys who got theirs already confirm, then we got some serious concerns. Besides, since mine is still on the way (and hopefully delivered later today) , i will have to rely on you guys to help me out so we can get to the bottom of what's what and what's really inside.

I've been digging around and doing some research to see what's the whole jist about the MSM6500 chipset, and while it seems good, i think the possible upgrade in the future to revision A is in jeopordy. Since the Qualcom chips have freescale's ARM core inside , mainly codenamed "Jazelle" for the java stuff, there are some variations of the ARM core. MSM6500 contains the "ARM926EJ-S" core, which is a 266 MHzxxx8211;350 MHz/133 MHz speed processor. So FYI, this is either a bit slower or faster than the actual Xscale processor intel is using. I noticed on the PDF i have, there's another core named "ARM1136JF-S" which is a 532 MHzxxx8211;665 MHz/133 MHz processor !!!! Though i highly doubt the new 8073e's have them, it would be good to know and hopefully later down the line, if Qualcomm can add these cores to their exsisting MSM line. Plus it has a unified cache core of 128k! alot to PDA/phone processor terms! Anyways, back to what i was getting at, the MSM chip series is a multifaceted chipset, so the chip can handle other functions. In Qualcom's site, this is a "multimedia" chipset/processor able to handle other functions. heh, very interesting if you read, the chipset is capable of handling other functions including "camera" and "video" codec processing.

So here is a link on more about the "MSM6500"
MSM6500 Chipset Solution

You can confirm that it has the ARM926EJ-S core labeled, straight from the horses mouth

Now here is "freescale's" specs on the core itself (note it's pdf)
http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit...speed%20MHz%22

and now here is some more info that will wet your whistle. A side by side comparison of the chipsets qualcom uses. It seems that the 8707 is reportedly, which i m not sure, if someone can confirm, uses the MSM6250?

here is the comparison link
Chipset Comparison Tool

try comparing the MSM6500 (multimedia) to the MSM6800 (enhanced)

Now here is where the PROBLEM is ... but i will say GOOD news!

Notice that there is NO bullet point in Rev. A . so if assuming that there is the MSM6500 in the 8703e, then when Verizon upgrades, guess what, we're stuck at regular EVDO rev. 0 , but all is not loss. 2.4Mbps is still good enough, it seems that Rev. A just bumps it up a little at 3.1Mbps, though us elitists and power hungry gadget whores would want the top speed.

on a related note, for those who are SPRINT junkies, youll have to pray that since sprint is ready to dump Rev. A next year, that they better get a different 8700 series, or just hope that both the verizon and Sprint have better than processors than the MSM6500, but if it's true from what everyone is assuming, then there might be a problem for sprint customers anticipating REV. A speeds as well. (hint hint, 8800 Gamma ray series release???!!! maybe?)

Anyhow

here is the link of the MSM6500 and MSM6800 comparison
Chipset Comparison Tool

But , also check it out! you know those rumors of our beloved CDMA hybrid GSM globetrotter?

well well, it seems both Processors supports GSM and GPRS functions.
check out there press release 4 years ago stating it!

QUALCOMM Press Center - QUALCOMM's MSM6500 Multimedia Single-Chip Solution Enables High-Performance Multimode Handsets Supporting CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO and GSM/GPRS

Well Well Well.

And with the Rumors of Camera's and other good stuff, fear not our BB brethren, so long as RIM doesn't screw it up on how to prepare this stuff, i can safely say we can see alot of new BB's on the horizon, especially with these chipsets i think i can safe to say, is great anyways, and hey, i know it's not Intel xscale stuff anyways, but as long as the BB can work and do the job, i think i don't mind at all. Mind you , Laz said 3 years in the making for pearl? i can believe it now if they use these chips with these capabilites, though im not sure if the pearl is using a "intel" or not, likewise, i know whichever chip they were using, they had functions within the chip or the resrouces to work on it. And probably working on something right now as we speak! (lol our nirvana blackberry of a Camera/wifi/UMTS/EVDO/QWERTY Multimedia bb! kekekek ...)


BTW for some wet whistle fun

check out the MSM7600 convergence chip. all i have to say is "convergence" you'll pee in your pants with the possabilities of a type of phone that can come out of that processor!

Phew!!!!

Well i hope that can shed some light on the processor front. Just need you guys to help out what processor is in that damn thing! and maybe help us out on what/why it may run sluggish (i.e. code or chipset design,etc.). I aint no einstein in processing and wireless engineering, but hey, there has to be a reason why! (and if we do find out it's intel, i can do a post on what i find about the processor!) Lets just hope too that they messed up by putting a 5 in the 6x00 number and meant MSM6800 lol i wish! hahah but we'll just have to confirm...

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Old 09-20-2006, 10:48 AM   #1129 (permalink)
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Finally i got an email telling me that it will be shipped out Tonight, not even this morning or afternoon...probably get it either later tomarrow, or even Fri.-man almost a dam week to get this thing for me.

Not that anyone really cares, but it is just fun typing it up
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Old 09-20-2006, 11:02 AM   #1130 (permalink)
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the "wait until i see it from verizon" lounge is now closed and i have sold the property since my boss is signing off on the order for mine right now.

now i need to read up on pitfalls of changing devices.
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finally mine is here!
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can you use the old batteries from the 8700g in the 8703e? They look pretty similar but just are shaped a little different.. Does anyone know if it would be bad to use the battery from an 8700g as a secondary battery?
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I got mine about 4 hours ago. It's great. It's slightly thinner than the 7520 and slightly smaller. My overall impression on size is positive. Just the right size. For you 7520 owners, the 8703 QWERTY board buttons are closer together and feel more like buttons. Easy to get used to, but expect to mistype some letters. The screen is crisp and clean and you can change the main-screen-theme without hacks or downloads.

I still need to play around with my new device, but overall... the best money spent on a cellular phone.

Those of you who are second guessing the purchase. Dive in... the water is GREAT!
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I forgot to mention. Those of you wondering about batteries and will there ever be better batteries. The future looks great.

06-022 (A Better Battery)
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when you guys got the 8703, where did the shipment originate from, was it the texas shipping center?
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when you guys got the 8703, where did the shipment originate from, was it the texas shipping center?
Ontario, California for me.
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Ontario, California for me.

HUH? which one, Ontario (which is in Canada) or Cali?
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HUH? which one, Ontario (which is in Canada) or Cali?
It shipped from Ontario in California
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It shipped from Ontario in California


see that, you learn something new every day...there is an Ontario in Cali....
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see that, you learn something new every day...there is an Ontario in Cali....
yep, about an hour south of Los Angeles
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