I have Verizon and frequently drop out of coverage. Where you ask? The AT&T Labs Headquarters. Whoops! It's a freaking dungeon in there, so pretty much no one gets coverage, not even Cingular (AT&T Wireless) phones. I have found that I get emails coming through though if I am in the corner (which happens to be where my desk is).

Man, this thread vears off-topic fast! Any one know any more info on the 2 bberry' s to be released this year? Names? sizes? etc?

I've been a VZW customer for 6 years. Before that I was with AT&T WS (pre-Cingular). In the DC metro area, Verizon has the best coverage and even works in the underground Metro tunnels.

But if Cingular had free WAP blackberry service, I would drop VZW in a heartbeat. VZW is beau-coup expensive!!

I'm waiting for a stable and usable Treo from Cingular and then I am dumping VZW, or maybe wait for the Apple iPhone and then dump VZW.

nice

ups, wrong thread

Agreed, one thing to point out too, saying one service workes better than another, while inside a building is pointless.

Example, we have a six year old building at my office and it's like Fort Knox with radio waves. Nothing gets in. We had AT&T (now Cingular) extend the cell signal inside the building via an antenna on the roof and an amp inside. It re-distributes the signal on all three floors.

No other carrier works inside that build except Cingular. First it was data only, for the crackberries, then last year Cingular merged the blue and orange networks to the same bandwidth, in Atlanta, so now cell phones work too.

Does that mean they are "better"....

So being at a convention center or inside your office and where one carrier works but another doesn't means nothing. Who's to say the "powers that be" made a deal with a carrier to extend their signal? We did and the carriers do it all the time. We are currently in the process of getting Verizon and Sprint to do the same thing.

So...any news on the 8800 and Verizon?

I was talking a friend who also happens to be a Verizon Rep, and we got to talking about the new Blackberry devices coming out on Verizon.

He told me with (what appeared to be) 100% confidence that a "new" blackberry was coming out for Verizon sometime in "hopefully the first quarter." He could not (maybe would not) give me the name, but he said it's not the Pearl.

He does not have a job that is typically in the know; so take what you want from this. But I thought I would relay the message...

That's good to know. I wonder if the BB your friend is referring to is the GSM version of the BB offered by Verizon.

No idea... he wouldn't tell me much more than that. I hope so

WHY would a verizon rep tell you about a gsm phone coming out?
Verizon does not use gsm!

Verizon/Sprint - CDMA/EVDO technology
TMobile/Cingular - GSM/EDGE/3G/UMTS/HSDPA technology

I just got the 8703e and I absolutely LOVE it...but if there were to be a 8800 to come out for Verizon I might have to switch to that. But, according to other threads here, there is a new BB coming out next year (9xxx series) and it supposedly has a new interface. I would wait for this if there is more information on it.

There have been rumors circulating for months that Verizon has a dual mode CDMA/GSM blackberry in the works to be released in 2007. I've heard it from two different VZW business reps and it's been talked about in threads on here and other sites.... that would explain the "GSM" Verizon phone.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/rumo...ight=dual+mode

If/when VZW comes out with a CDMA/GSM phone, I'll be one of the first on board. That way, I wouldn't have to travel out of the country with a deadberry. And if it's the 8800? Even better from what I've seen in posted pictures.

(Clearing throat)... if you read my original post he didn't tell me about a GSM phone. He told me about a "NEW" blackberry coming out on Verizon in what is hoped to be Q1 of 2007. Rumor has it that the 8800 for Verizon will be both CDMA and GSM for travel overseas.

I second that. I love my 8703e....but....am always the 1st in line for the new tech especially if it is a BB. If I had stayed with TMO I would have upgraded to the 8100 from my 7105t.

I was given a treo700w and switched from 8700c and man i have been lost, anyone who says that cingular sucks has not ever use a phone on the verizon network. I won't even get into how much the treo sucks what it sucks, but i will tell you that i never had the kind of problems that i have had since i started using verizon. Billing is always wrong, i haven't had a phone bill under 500 yet (about 6 months now) and as far as never droping a call, well thats just a jock. I hate just about every thing verizon has to offer, the only good thing is ED-VO. Now cingular was no saint but man it is looking a hell of a lot better at this point. And as far as blackberry over palm, hands down blackberry windows mobile is the biggest jock of all, a smart phone is supposed to help your life but it seem like i spend more time trying to fix my phone then actually using it.

$500 a month? You need to review your plan big time. I've had Verizon for many years, 6 phones, 1 BB725o with Data and Data connect for about that.

As for the dropped calls I'll bet you that is the Palm Device and not the network .

Good luck.

just posted in thread above this one but will repeat here

I was on a call recently with a rim rep. I work for a local carrier on the east coast don't want to go to specific cuz they said it was mildly confidential but the device will be the 8830. verizon's looking at may/june and sprint soon thereafter other carriers are looking at august. so far all the test devices have verizon software or atleast the ones we saw. the device will be trackball and will have a few new features some of which have been mentioned. it is quadband but will only be marketed as cdma in north america and gsm in europe and other markets. it will also have a micro sd card slot and has a full media player, music and video!!!!! it will have a built in spell checker 64 MB onbaord data and 16 MB ram. overall it looks pretty cool very similar to the 8800. best features imo are the next two: stereo bluetooth, and extended battery included when you buy. it has 33% more battery life than the standard in the 8703e so should be pretty good. thats pretty much all they told us on the call hope that answers questions and clears up some myths if you have any other questions i can research them and ask our rim rep and see what he says.

I work at one of Verizon's major business accounts and I recently asked our business account exec. when the 8800 will come out for Verizon. He told me "it is coming out in the 2nd qtr."

Hopefully it is true!

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So does it come with two batteries or just the extended battery which would most likely make it thicker than the rest of the 88xx's...

Late May is what my rep is saying. I am getting the old "hang in there...it will be worth the wait" pep talk.

maybe you should read your bill and pinpoint why its messed up. ill bet you dont have the UNL PDA feature on the acct

Just met with my Verizon rep today. Mid-2nd Qtr 2007 is the time frame for the Cyclone. Looks just like the pic below, but in silver.

Did you see it live? Same exact keyboard or did RIM make some slight changes?

Will the dimensions be the same as the CINGY model. I ask because I think the 8800 is a bit large compared with my 7250.

Your 7250 is much wider and thicker then the the 8800.

Thank you for the response Dewars.

With the possible arrival of the Verizon Pearl on May 7, I am not sure what this means to our 8800 discussion.

Everyone has different taste, but I have to admit hearing the above post saying it will be all silver kinda bumbs me out. I like the black & silver look better.
With that said, I will be more then happy to physically HAVE an all silver one as soon as possible

I got my hands on a Cingular 8800 last week. I was looking to upgrade to the 8703e, but I'm eligible to upgrade my device in August. I'd rather wait for the 8830 than go with the 8703 now.

The new track pad will take some getting used to as I'm so accustomed to the track wheel on the side. All in all, this looks like a great device, but too early to tell.

First off, all win mobile based Treos suck. Stick with the Palm based OS on the Treos. If for some reason you need Win Mobile, and I can't see why, then choose another brand.

When I was in my Business100 class last semester, we were shown that the top 3 cellular companies were:

1. Verizon
2. Sprint/Nextel
3. T-Mobile

I have had Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon. I will stick with Verizon because it has the best coverage and reliability.

I'm new to VZW (2 months) after using T-Mobile, Cingular, Sprint and Nextel over the past 5 years. So far, Verizon wins HANDS DOWN! Best coverage (i outfitted my sales team nationwide with 8703's and BY FAR the best business customer service). I have a dedicated account rep and a inside BB technician available for any issues.

I can't wait for the 8800's! I'll ask my BB Tech tomorrow if he has any scoop.

I'm a noob here, but I i find it odd the everyone says vzw phones suck and they're the slowest on the block with new and cool phones.... but as it has been metioned so may times b4 their network is the best. Why have really cool phones if they dont work... I'd rather have a reliable network where i know my phone will work then a flashy new phone that works some times.

I agree!

of course the network is critical when choosing a service provider, but it's not like the companies with the flashy new phones have horrible networks either. they just may not be as good.

i've been with sprint, att/cingular, and now verizon, and i must admit that i've been happiest with vzw. not so much b/c of the coverage, but also b/c sprint and att have always treated me like dirt.

however, my girlfriend is on Tmo and always glowing about their service and customer support. she and i travel in a similar daily circle, and her service is pretty much identical to mine here in los angeles. so for me, if coverage is the same, customer relations is the same, but one company gets the better phones first, it becomes a very compelling argument to jump ship.