BlackBerry Forums Support Community               

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-19-2006, 11:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
BES admin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NY
Model: Droid
Carrier: Android -> AT&T
Posts: 491
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default OTA Blackberry OS upgrades...

Please Login to Remove!

I hear this may be more than just a rumor. Anyone?
__________________
You had me at EHLO!
Offline  
Old 10-20-2006, 12:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
Retired BlackBerryForums.com Moderator
 
d_fisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus, OH
Model: 9700
OS: SID 6.7
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 4,455
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Default

From what I heard, this will be offered starting with the next version of BES. Handheld OS v4.2 or higher will also be required.
__________________
Doug

Remember, please try searching first!

Need a screenshot? ... Like JavaLoader?
Try using BBscreen .....Use JL_Cmder!
or BBScreenShooter!

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Offline  
Old 10-20-2006, 01:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
BlackBerry God
 
jibi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Jibi's Secret Place
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.174
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 11,310
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

They are shooting for it to be included with the next version of BES, although I'm not sure, at this point, if it's going to make it to market in the next six months during it's launch. The upgrade process will be non-obtrusive to the device or user experience, as well as allowing you the ability to schedule the upgrades.
__________________
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move.
Offline  
Old 10-20-2006, 08:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
Retired BlackBerryForums.com Moderator
 
d_fisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus, OH
Model: 9700
OS: SID 6.7
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 4,455
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Default

I was told a number of other details about the OTA OS upgrades, but not sure what I can say due to NDA. It all sounds fantastic in theory. We will just have to see how it turns out in practice.
__________________
Doug

Remember, please try searching first!

Need a screenshot? ... Like JavaLoader?
Try using BBscreen .....Use JL_Cmder!
or BBScreenShooter!

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Offline  
Old 10-20-2006, 12:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Model: 8100
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 27
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

It is supposed to be coming in BES 5.0 which won't be until the middle of next year at least.
Offline  
Old 10-21-2006, 02:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
No longer Registered.
 
topspeedtop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: New England
Model: 8100
Posts: 111
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

the only thing is not all of us use BES. i was hopeing a ota for everyone that uses the BIS
Offline  
Old 10-21-2006, 02:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
Grumpy Moderator
 
NJBlackBerry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Model: iPh6
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 27,821
Post Thanks: 33
Thanked 442 Times in 382 Posts
Default

Your wife would know; doesn't she work at RIM?
Offline  
Old 10-21-2006, 04:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
BlackBerry God
 
jibi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Jibi's Secret Place
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.174
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 11,310
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by drewmk
It is supposed to be coming in BES 5.0 which won't be until the middle of next year at least.
eh, a bit earlier than that... unless it's delayed (as usual). target date is currently april/may.
__________________
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move.
Offline  
Old 10-21-2006, 05:03 PM   #9 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
kmccarthy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: TX
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 495
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jibi
eh, a bit earlier than that... unless it's delayed (as usual). target date is currently april/may.
lol. it seems everything to do with smartphones in general is delayed. the sk3 was delayed at least 3 months and so was the motorola q.
__________________
**BB 8320**
Offline  
Old 10-21-2006, 05:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
Retired BlackBerryForums.com Moderator
 
d_fisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus, OH
Model: 9700
OS: SID 6.7
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 4,455
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kmccarthy
lol. it seems everything to do with smartphones in general is delayed. the sk3 was delayed at least 3 months and so was the motorola q.
All the smartphone are getting more and more features. Everyone expects them to work perfectly when released.
__________________
Doug

Remember, please try searching first!

Need a screenshot? ... Like JavaLoader?
Try using BBscreen .....Use JL_Cmder!
or BBScreenShooter!

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Offline  
Old 10-21-2006, 09:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Brooklyn NY
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 130
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Actually at the Blackberry IT Professional Seminar in NY they were shooting for 4.1 SP4. They said OTA OS upgrades an 5x faster browsing with the SP4 for release. They also mentioned enhanced monitoring for 4.SP3. I was suprised myself to hear this good news. You would think they would save these features for their next major release 5.0 code named argon but they got other plans for that release. Of course as always all this could easily change. They could get pushed back like other features in the past.

Last edited by BrooklynzFinest : 10-21-2006 at 09:47 PM.
Offline  
Old 10-25-2006, 02:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Jagga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Toronto
Model: Z10
Carrier: Lord Rogers - 107
Posts: 862
Post Thanks: 6
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Default

Got some questions regarding this OTA, if anyone can answer unless BOUND to the NDA.

With this OTA:

Is it limited to BES connected users?
Is it dependant on Battery strength; as in will a 50% full battery B4 commencing OTA firmware update be limited to that 50% afterwards - even though showing FULL? SE & Nokia phones seem to have this issue.
> IS the OTA REVERSIBLE OTA; as in downgrading the the OS Firmware? this will be incredible.

Lastly & most importantly. Is this OTA going to be part of the standard OMI system that Nokia, motorola, SE, and others will be crossing over too within the next 2 years?
Offline  
Old 10-25-2006, 01:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
BlackBerry God
 
jibi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Jibi's Secret Place
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.174
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 11,310
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jagga
Is it limited to BES connected users?
Thus far, it has only been mention in conjunction with BES 5.0 and enterprise software management enhancements, so I would assume that it would apply only to BES users.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jagga
Is it dependant on Battery strength; as in will a 50% full battery B4 commencing OTA firmware update be limited to that 50% afterwards - even though showing FULL? SE & Nokia phones seem to have this issue.
To my knowledge, this will be a feature, but if battery power became an issue, the OS upgrade is staggered (meaning it won't install anything until the entire OS is on the handheld ready for installation). It's not going to affect end-user performance, so I wouldn't imagine end-user performance would affect the installation, either.

As for the last two questions, I do not believe that the former OS will remain on the handheld after an upgrade. It would seem that if you wanted to downgrade, you'd do so the same way as you upgraded, sending out the OS to the handheld. And I'm not sure on the last question.
__________________
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move.
Offline  
Old 10-26-2006, 12:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
goatspike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Kansas City
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 64
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

As with all road map dates from RIM...I will believe it when I see it. I recall that 4.0 was suppose to be out the 4Q of 2004. Like all Project Managers they missed the date on that one
Offline  
Old 10-26-2006, 12:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
flash24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Antonio, TX
Model: 9930
OS: 7.1
PIN: 3319688F
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 2,178
Post Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Never done it before.. but this would make my life easier.
__________________
http://twitter.com/billydasco

Proud to Serve USAF
Offline  
Old 10-26-2006, 01:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Model: 950
Carrier: robbers
Posts: 909
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

This is a good feature, but would be limited to the amount of free space in the handheld. Obviously with 64 megs of memory in most devices (and will only increase) they can probably offer it now..

A handy feature for IT admins.. but that's all. =)
Offline  
Old 11-01-2006, 02:44 PM   #17 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
BES admin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NY
Model: Droid
Carrier: Android -> AT&T
Posts: 491
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by headtailgrep
This is a good feature, but would be limited to the amount of free space in the handheld. Obviously with 64 megs of memory in most devices (and will only increase) they can probably offer it now..

A handy feature for IT admins.. but that's all. =)
"That's all?" are you kidding?

This is HUGE!!! If you have ever attempted an OS upgrade for 200 Blackberry devices, you would know just HOW huge.
__________________
You had me at EHLO!
Offline  
Old 11-09-2006, 11:03 AM   #18 (permalink)
BlackBerry God
 
LunkHead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Here
Model: 850
OS: 0.0.00001
PIN: kie swear
Carrier: USPS Priority
Posts: 11,015
Post Thanks: 174
Thanked 174 Times in 67 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BES admin
I hear this may be more than just a rumor. Anyone?
Now that would be sweet! I can't use download manager and get tired of having to use my girlfriends pc to udate.

I do everything OTA, so I eagerly await this!
Offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





Copyright 2004-2014 BlackBerryForums.com.
The names RIM and BlackBerry are registered Trademarks of BlackBerry Inc.