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Blackberry Hurricane
Posts: 11,524
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Model: 9630
OS: 5.0.0.230
Carrier: Verizon BIS
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09-16-2007, 05:45 PM
How would we know?
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 373
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Surf 'n Sun dude.
Model: 9630
OS: 4.iforgot
PIN: DUPONT FIFTH AVENUE LARGE ORPHEO ROLLERBALL
Carrier: the Titanic
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09-16-2007, 05:57 PM
I don't have a definitive on that for you, but just try to use the purported "new" features such as logging in from your handheld w/o needing to input password or username. Look at the post with the new feature list and try to utilize any one of them. Since the features haven't been confirmed yet, as far as I know, it's a crap shoot anyway.
Or, you could just wait til it's confirmed, checking back here often. I know, no fun in that. hehe.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 102
Join Date: Apr 2007
Model: storm
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
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09-16-2007, 08:06 PM
I still don't have message status synchronization with my gmail account. I cant say for yahoo mail, because I dont use them.
I have a 7250, on Verizon. Maybe that feature is not supported on this model?
-Adam
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 38
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Belleville, Ontario
Model: 9000r
OS: 4.6.0.162
Carrier: Rogers Wireless
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09-16-2007, 08:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by floz23
I still don't have message status synchronization with my gmail account. I cant say for yahoo mail, because I dont use them.
I have a 7250, on Verizon. Maybe that feature is not supported on this model?
-Adam
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Do you mean that when you read or delete an email on Gmail, it doesn't show as read on your BB? Or vice versa?
My BB History --> 7290, 8700, 8100, 8300, 8800, 8820, 9000, 8220, 9500, 8900
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 102
Join Date: Apr 2007
Model: storm
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
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09-16-2007, 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam79
Do you mean that when you read or delete an email on Gmail, it doesn't show as read on your BB? Or vice versa?
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I have tested it several times in both directions. I still don't get notification sync, in either direction.
As for deleting emails, it has always been very unreliable for me, in terms of the delete reconciliation between BIS and Gmail.
-Adam
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,375
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
Model: 8830
PIN: & Teller
Carrier: Verizon
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BIS 2.4 Documentation -
09-16-2007, 09:22 PM
I noticed documentation on 2.4 on the RIM website about two weeks ago. You might want to go there and download a copy for review as it might answer some questions.
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Platinum Sponsor
Posts: 288
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 8330
Carrier: Telus
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09-16-2007, 09:52 PM
Anybody have instant IMAP fetch yet?
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Blackberry Hurricane
Posts: 11,524
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Model: 9630
OS: 5.0.0.230
Carrier: Verizon BIS
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09-16-2007, 10:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by floz23
I still don't have message status synchronization with my gmail account. I cant say for yahoo mail, because I dont use them.
I have a 7250, on Verizon. Maybe that feature is not supported on this model?
-Adam
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I see you listed yourself in your profile as having 2.4. I am not sure the 7250 will upgrade to the 2.4, regardless of the features. Certain features will also need to have a 4.2 OS
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,753
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: SE PA.
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6.0.297
Carrier: AT&T
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09-17-2007, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by vliou
Anybody have instant IMAP fetch yet?
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I thought so yesterday, but its still normal polling.
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No longer Registered.
Posts: 360
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mesa, AZ
Model: 8100c
PIN: 2406A5FB
Carrier: AT&T
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09-17-2007, 08:56 AM
I don't think we have 2.4 yet (at&t) because one of the features was automatic login from the browser. I am using the BB browser and it is not logging me in automatically like the 2.4 release notes said. So based on this I can only conclude that the update (at least for AT&T) never happened.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 161
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Model: 9000
Carrier: AT&T
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09-17-2007, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by harryzuluberries
I don't have a definitive on that for you, but just try to use the purported "new" features such as logging in from your handheld w/o needing to input password or username. Look at the post with the new feature list and try to utilize any one of them. Since the features haven't been confirmed yet, as far as I know, it's a crap shoot anyway.
Or, you could just wait til it's confirmed, checking back here often. I know, no fun in that. hehe.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 5,873
Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Garden State
Model: Tour
OS: 5. somtin
PIN: 90210
Carrier: VZW - BIS
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09-17-2007, 09:25 AM
It states once you logon through the internet you will no longer be able to logon without a password, "New users only".
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 373
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Surf 'n Sun dude.
Model: 9630
OS: 4.iforgot
PIN: DUPONT FIFTH AVENUE LARGE ORPHEO ROLLERBALL
Carrier: the Titanic
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09-17-2007, 01:31 PM
Thanks for that bigme. Funny, wireless meetings, read/delivery receipts...a few of those features have been active on my 8830 since I've had it.
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Blackberry Hurricane
Posts: 11,524
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Model: 9630
OS: 5.0.0.230
Carrier: Verizon BIS
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09-17-2007, 05:16 PM
This is true. When ready, I do not see drastic changes from 2.4
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 38
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Belleville, Ontario
Model: 9000r
OS: 4.6.0.162
Carrier: Rogers Wireless
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09-18-2007, 03:24 PM
I understand RTF document viewing is new in BIS 2.4. I sent myself one earlier and it was displayed on the BB just fine. Is this an indication that Rogers has implemented the new BIS or is it nothing new?
My BB History --> 7290, 8700, 8100, 8300, 8800, 8820, 9000, 8220, 9500, 8900
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 17
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Republic of Texas
Model: 8100
Carrier: AT&T
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09-18-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dandrzejewski
This appears to be live. My Yahoo! mail account is now a Yahoo! logo icon with an envelope.
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Is this feature theme specific, becuase I haven't noticed the yahoo logo icon on any of my yahoo mail that's on my blackberry?
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 5,873
Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Garden State
Model: Tour
OS: 5. somtin
PIN: 90210
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Bis -
09-18-2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jollygrunt
Is this feature theme specific, becuase I haven't noticed the yahoo logo icon on any of my yahoo mail that's on my blackberry?
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I deleted my account and re-entered it and now I have the Yahoo icon.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 5,844
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Nor Cal
Model: 9000
PIN: ups! ;)
Carrier: AT&T
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09-18-2007, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by zerog46
I deleted my account and re-entered it and now I have the Yahoo icon.
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Wait, do you have to delete your entire account to upgrade or only to use this feature???
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No longer Registered.
Posts: 360
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mesa, AZ
Model: 8100c
PIN: 2406A5FB
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09-18-2007, 04:36 PM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8100/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)
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Originally Posted by jollygrunt
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Originally Posted by dandrzejewski
This appears to be live. My Yahoo! mail account is now a Yahoo! logo icon with an envelope.
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Is this feature theme specific, becuase I haven't noticed the yahoo logo icon on any of my yahoo mail that's on my blackberry?
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Ya, but my yahoo has been like that since I got this and its been months. I've always had the yahoo mail icon. I'm with AT&T btw.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 5,873
Join Date: May 2007
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Bis -
09-18-2007, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Thatzmister2u
Wait, do you have to delete your entire account to upgrade or only to use this feature???
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I just deleted it off the BIS web site "just Yahoo mail account", and then re- entered it I can also receive and look at vcards now.
Twitter: http://twitter.com/zerog46
Last edited by zerog46 : 09-18-2007 at 04:41 PM.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 5,873
Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Garden State
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Bis -
09-18-2007, 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nuopus
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8100/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)
Ya, but my yahoo has been like that since I got this and its been months. I've always had the yahoo mail icon. I'm with AT&T btw.
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I have never noticed it since I set up my account over a year ago.
Twitter: http://twitter.com/zerog46
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Blackberry Hurricane
Posts: 11,524
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Model: 9630
OS: 5.0.0.230
Carrier: Verizon BIS
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09-18-2007, 04:40 PM
Yes Yahoo has had the icon for quite a while now.
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BBF Moderator
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09-18-2007, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by zerog46
I just deleted it off the BIS web site and then re- entered it I can also receive and look at vcards now.
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Zerog,
So you are stating that you cannot use the 2.4 features unless you delete your account and re-enter it? People with less that version 2 are prompted for an upgrade but what about all the rest of us??
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 5,873
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Bis -
09-18-2007, 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatzmister2u
Zerog,
So you are stating that you cannot use the 2.4 features unless you delete your account and re-enter it? People with less that version 2 are prompted for an upgrade but what about all the rest of us??
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No I just did this so I can have the Yahoo mail icon on my phone try sending yourself a contact as a vcard to your bb and see if you can view it before you save it.
Twitter: http://twitter.com/zerog46
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 373
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Surf 'n Sun dude.
Model: 9630
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PIN: DUPONT FIFTH AVENUE LARGE ORPHEO ROLLERBALL
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09-19-2007, 02:34 AM
Just tested it. Still can't view vcards.
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BBF Moderator
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09-19-2007, 02:40 AM
I just tried it again and it works for me, You have to scroll to the v card in the email and it will say view attachment and you can view it.
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Last edited by zerog46 : 09-19-2007 at 02:41 AM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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09-19-2007, 04:14 AM
the biggest different on bis 2.4 is auto login..
which is a pain for user who frequently tested new device, must be deactivated first by login to your bis website using desktop or maybe using operamini to revoke auto login feature..
if you using your email setting to login to your bis website, it will show change handheld procedure, beware please make sure you know what are you doing  even there is a funny thing that we are required to answer if we are going to change to the same PIN :p just choose -NO-
this feature is great for a new user
and by the way apac (asia pasific) using this new bis since last week.. at least my carrier is
beware if you take your simcard to other blackberry, make sure on the bis website that you are tied to right pin.. (unless you have revoke the auto login feature , so you must login to change handheld)
and other new feature, is if you create user must accept agreement first before creating user name, and for existing user there a end agreement link on the bis website (haven't tried this)
cmiiw, at least that what i known from the new bis 2.4 ..
i miss my bis 2.3 :D
Last edited by nyubi : 09-19-2007 at 04:25 AM.
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No longer Registered.
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09-27-2007, 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by harryzuluberries
I don't have a definitive on that for you, but just try to use the purported "new" features such as logging in from your handheld w/o needing to input password or username. Look at the post with the new feature list and try to utilize any one of them. Since the features haven't been confirmed yet, as far as I know, it's a crap shoot anyway.
Or, you could just wait til it's confirmed, checking back here often. I know, no fun in that. hehe.
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This doesnt work on my Pearl ... no auto login love. BUT, my parents just got their 8820, and it does auto log in.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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09-27-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nuopus
This doesnt work on my Pearl ... no auto login love. BUT, my parents just got their 8820, and it does auto log in.
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That's right. According to RIM's documentation on BIS 2.4 the auto-login option only works on the device on creating a new BIS account. And if you use the web interface thereafter, the auto-login from the device no longer works.
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No longer Registered.
Posts: 360
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Location: Mesa, AZ
Model: 8100c
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09-27-2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by whsbuss
That's right. According to RIM's documentation on BIS 2.4 the auto-login option only works on the device on creating a new BIS account. And if you use the web interface thereafter, the auto-login from the device no longer works.
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Ahhh I see this makes sense then! lol
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 140
Join Date: Aug 2007
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10-02-2007, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by whsbuss
I thought so yesterday, but its still normal polling.
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Are you guys referring to the RFC standard IMAP IDLE? It will most likely be back in a future release, it may just take a while. Us IT admins need to make sure we fully support IDLE before they will activate it again 
BES 4.1.4 - Exchange 2003
8800 and my trusty 8700r.
To change your PIN to FFFFFFFF, drop the BB in a lake.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 140
Join Date: Aug 2007
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10-02-2007, 02:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whsbuss
That's right. According to RIM's documentation on BIS 2.4 the auto-login option only works on the device on creating a new BIS account. And if you use the web interface thereafter, the auto-login from the device no longer works.
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Exactly. For example, if a user needs to setup Mail Connector (SMC), they will automatically lose the seamless login feature whether they like it or not.
BES 4.1.4 - Exchange 2003
8800 and my trusty 8700r.
To change your PIN to FFFFFFFF, drop the BB in a lake.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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10-02-2007, 07:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyscan
Are you guys referring to the RFC standard IMAP IDLE? It will most likely be back in a future release, it may just take a while. Us IT admins need to make sure we fully support IDLE before they will activate it again 
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Sure hope so. Remember that the IMAP server must also support concurrent connections.
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Blackberry Hurricane
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10-02-2007, 07:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zerog46
No I just did this so I can have the Yahoo mail icon on my phone try sending yourself a contact as a vcard to your bb and see if you can view it before you save it.
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We couldn't do this before? I have sent Vcards but never received and saved before.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 5,873
Join Date: May 2007
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10-05-2007, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by akosnitzky
We couldn't do this before? I have sent Vcards but never received and saved before.
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I tried to send myself an icalendar and I am still not able to save it.
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