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Default Nextel's Next Blackberry?? - 06-07-2005, 01:08 PM

I currently have the 7510, want to upgrade to the 7520, but I don't want to get a 7520 if Nextel is going to come out with a new Blackberry...anyone have any input on this??

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Default 06-07-2005, 01:20 PM

Heard new blackberry was coming out in Jan, some 8000 series. Not sure tho, if it is might as well get the 7520 since u going to have to wait half a year. Bb 7520 is way better since you can type better, more memory, better back light, gps and bluetooth. Your gonna miss out on these goodies wit the 7510 for half a year.

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Yeah I heard maybe Jan Feb 06 Id bite the bullet and get the latest phone out. Rumors are always flying around so it may be a year away or even two.
   
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Plus the 7520 ois not that expensive. Plus I do believe you can get a $100 pda credit, so the phone ends up being around a $100 after rebate also.

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2YR Pricing $249.99
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Final Cost: 49.99

How can you go wrong there for a blackberry?


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Default 06-07-2005, 02:46 PM

Amen to that wish I would have paid 49.99 for it. I might not be as protective of it as i am.
   
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Thanks all for your comments....since I don't have a PDA to turn in, the best price I can get is $149.....is it really that much better than the 7510? I know bluetooth is a big feature...no more wires...but then I have to get a bluetooth headset, probably another $100?
   
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Default 06-09-2005, 09:23 AM

Yes much better all my field personal have all upgraded to the 7520 since they played with mine at meetings. Screen is brighter, bluetooth, picture viewing and the list goes on and on.
   
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The better screen is my favorite feature.


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A lot of people are just buying a cheap pda off of ebay. Some of these pda's you get a $100 for, you can purchase for $20.

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I wouldnt touch a ebay BB for any amount of money no guarantees might work for a littel while then crash no telling if its been wet or what ever
   
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Heres another reason not to buy from ebay
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A lot of people are just buying a cheap pda off of ebay. Some of these pda's you get a $100 for, you can purchase for $20.

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Default 07-03-2005, 05:07 PM

I am in the same situation as the person who posted the original thread. With my 7510 - I e-mail 80% and speak 20%. My thought is that it may not be worth waiting for a 7100 model anyway and instead move towards the 7520. I don't know.
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Default 07-03-2005, 07:18 PM

Mr Pink57 was referring to a pda to get the $100 credit.. not a BB..

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As I mentioned in my post, I was properly responding to the content of the person in the original thread.



Nextel's Next Blackberry??

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I currently have the 7510, want to upgrade to the 7520, but I don't want to get a 7520 if Nextel is going to come out with a new Blackberry...anyone have any input on this??

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Default 07-05-2005, 07:43 PM

As an update, I went ahead and got the 7520 to replace my 7510. As mentioned many times by others, I was glad I made the upgrade. It has more memory, a better backlight, and bluetooth which I don't know how I lived without.
   
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Default 07-10-2005, 10:44 AM

since i've had the 7520 i had to stop and ask myself how did i make it by with the 7510??

it was horrible in comparison to what i have now.....

but to stick to the topic, i dont think that anything new will be comin from BBerry/Nextel for a lil while...so far this would be the longest amount of time that i've held onto one phone which is a minor accomplishment...
   
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Default 07-25-2005, 11:01 AM

7520 also has GPS capability. There are 3rd party services you can add to your Blackberry that will use the gps functionality to give you turn by turn driving directions.
   
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All of that silly, productive business related crap aside, I must say Curling kicks butt. My 7520 makes me very happy
   
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I agree, I absolutely love my, not sure how I functioned without it.
   
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the 7520 is one of the best blackberries out there. I am interested to see what the new blackberry would have better than the 7520


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Default 08-05-2005, 10:39 PM

I'd love it if they lost the antenna and stylized the external speaker so it didn't look like an after thought.....
   
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my local nextel rep now is saying something about a B4 to be released in the next few months....
   
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you wont ever get a nextel with out an antena the direct connect depends on it to much.
   
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7520 also has GPS capability. There are 3rd party services you can add to your Blackberry that will use the gps functionality to give you turn by turn driving directions.

I never had much luck with the GPS, on a clear day, away from any large building, standing on my tip toes, still no location. I would list it as a big selling point.


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I never had much luck with the GPS, on a clear day, away from any large building, standing on my tip toes, still no location. I would list it as a big selling point.
I too don't get very consistent results from my 7520 GPS.
   
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you wont ever get a nextel with out an antena the direct connect depends on it to much.
Not only that, but it's been scientifically proven that external antennas perform better than internal ones. That's why Mobile magazine (formerly known as Mobile PC) lists an external antenna as one of the MUST-HAVE features for their dream phone of the future.

Anyway... Since I haven't seen it posted yet, an image of the Nextel 7100 (the only one I know of, so far) can be seen HERE. Just looks like a 7100g reworked ever so slightly to fit in the extra stuff for Nextel. Shame they didn't make it black like the 7100x, though. It would've looked cooler AND more professional in black... Just like the 7100x does.

Now, let's hope that 2006 brings us a Nextel version of the Electron/8100/whatever they end up calling it!


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yeah from all I hear from 7100 users isnt any way in the world I am ever buying one of those.
   
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I have no Problem with my GPS I use it with Telenav it works in my Car perfectly unless its raining really hard And even then I can get it just takes longer.


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i love my 7520 , i think only disapiontments i have maybe that when u DC someone the call ends to short when you want to respond and then you have to go back to "phone" icon and click again , and then theres the missed calls you get by browsing on the internet and IMing on ramble , oh and last one would be that i can't seem to turn the "speaker" option off when in the holster and "speaker" on when out of the holster , because sometimes it can be annoying at work when people just DC you , i mean hey maybe there might be an option and i dont know it , but i am a newbie lol..
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Default 08-23-2005, 03:15 PM

[quote=Jack T. Chance]Anyway... Since I haven't seen it posted yet, an image of the Nextel 7100 (the only one I know of, so far) can be seen HERE. Just looks like a 7100g reworked ever so slightly to fit in the extra stuff for Nextel. Shame they didn't make it black like the 7100x, though. It would've looked cooler AND more professional in black... Just like the 7100x does.
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Actually, the working models i have seen dont really look like that. I know a couple people in R/D in Nextel that have models to beta test and its much closer in color and looks to the 7100t. It is white currently, and has an antenna in the same place as 7520. Release date, as i have been told, is Nov (mid to end) of this year. However, with the way Nextel releases phones (850, 860, 930, etc) it may be first quarter in 06.
   
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they have released several phones in the past few months
   
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yes they have but many of those have been "supposed" to be released for some time. I know all carriers have their delays, but it seems like the motorola delays seem to last longer than others, either that or its Nextel.
   
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A word about antennas. As frequency goes up, antennas get smaller. Think about the TV you had when growing up. The VHF channels used the rabbit ears that were about 2 to 3 feet long. UHF channels used the loop that was about 1 foot looped.

Antennas on phones are no different. Nextel operates exclusively in the 800MHz band. T-Mobile operates exclusively in the 1900MHz band. That's why T-Mobile phones have no (visible) antenna. It is so small it can be fit inside the phone. Verizon includes a least a "nub" antenna on most of their phones. In fact, most Verizon phones are still AMPS capable. (Which is also in the 800 range)

AT&T and Cingular operate on 850 and 1900 bands. I think AT&T was leveraging more of the 850 space and Cingular was leveraging more of the 1900 space.

Inside Nextel phones is a metal tube that the antenna retracts into. When the antenna is down, you are using a 1/4 wave antenna. When fully extended you are using a 1/2 wave. (The external antenna and internal tube combine)


If you ever hear HAM operators talk, you'll hear things like "10 meter" and "2 meter" which refer to the wavelength. For a full wave antenna, the wave length is the same as the antenna length. A 10 meter band HAM radio antenna would be 10 meters long ideally. However fractional amounts are also effective which is why you may see a 15 foot or 7.5 foot antenna on a 10 meter system.

There are also more complex antenna designs which have different shapes but I don't think you'd ever see a Yagi antenna sticking out of your phone... You might put out an eye.


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A word about antennas. As frequency goes up, antennas get smaller. Think about the TV you had when growing up. The VHF channels used the rabbit ears that were about 2 to 3 feet long. UHF channels used the loop that was about 1 foot looped.

Antennas on phones are no different. Nextel operates exclusively in the 800MHz band. T-Mobile operates exclusively in the 1900MHz band. That's why T-Mobile phones have no (visible) antenna. It is so small it can be fit inside the phone. Verizon includes a least a "nub" antenna on most of their phones. In fact, most Verizon phones are still AMPS capable. (Which is also in the 800 range)

AT&T and Cingular operate on 850 and 1900 bands. I think AT&T was leveraging more of the 850 space and Cingular was leveraging more of the 1900 space.

Inside Nextel phones is a metal tube that the antenna retracts into. When the antenna is down, you are using a 1/4 wave antenna. When fully extended you are using a 1/2 wave. (The external antenna and internal tube combine)


If you ever hear HAM operators talk, you'll hear things like "10 meter" and "2 meter" which refer to the wavelength. For a full wave antenna, the wave length is the same as the antenna length. A 10 meter band HAM radio antenna would be 10 meters long ideally. However fractional amounts are also effective which is why you may see a 15 foot or 7.5 foot antenna on a 10 meter system.

There are also more complex antenna designs which have different shapes but I don't think you'd ever see a Yagi antenna sticking out of your phone... You might put out an eye.

one of the better explainations i have seen on antennas in a long time. also, last line, great way to end it :-D
   
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I tried looking around for the pic of the Nextel version of the 7100 but couldnt find it. Anyone on here have the link to it?

I have the 7520 now and I love it. Im just curious has anyone else went from a full size keyboard (7510/20) to the 7100 slip letter keyboard blackberry's? How is the typing on them? Do you need to push the letter twice, or hold a shift key?

Also when is the targeted release for the 7100 with Nextel? September-October?
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you can read all about the 7100s here and see that alot of the folks hate the keyboard on the 7100 alot of the reviews here are very negative about the 7100 I know they dont have any of the shortcut keys like we do on the 7520
   
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yeah I love my 7520. I couldnt get used to the slip keyboard, but it would be nice to get something smaller. When is it supposed to be released so I can get my hands on one and try it out?
   
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A word about antennas. As frequency goes up, antennas get smaller. Think about the TV you had when growing up. The VHF channels used the rabbit ears that were about 2 to 3 feet long. UHF channels used the loop that was about 1 foot looped.

Antennas on phones are no different. Nextel operates exclusively in the 800MHz band. T-Mobile operates exclusively in the 1900MHz band. That's why T-Mobile phones have no (visible) antenna. It is so small it can be fit inside the phone. Verizon includes a least a "nub" antenna on most of their phones. In fact, most Verizon phones are still AMPS capable. (Which is also in the 800 range)

AT&T and Cingular operate on 850 and 1900 bands. I think AT&T was leveraging more of the 850 space and Cingular was leveraging more of the 1900 space.

Inside Nextel phones is a metal tube that the antenna retracts into. When the antenna is down, you are using a 1/4 wave antenna. When fully extended you are using a 1/2 wave. (The external antenna and internal tube combine)


If you ever hear HAM operators talk, you'll hear things like "10 meter" and "2 meter" which refer to the wavelength. For a full wave antenna, the wave length is the same as the antenna length. A 10 meter band HAM radio antenna would be 10 meters long ideally. However fractional amounts are also effective which is why you may see a 15 foot or 7.5 foot antenna on a 10 meter system.

There are also more complex antenna designs which have different shapes but I don't think you'd ever see a Yagi antenna sticking out of your phone... You might put out an eye.
Amazing description...I'd hate to try and ask about what else makes the BB tick.


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I tried looking around for the pic of the Nextel version of the 7100 but couldnt find it. Anyone on here have the link to it?

I have the 7520 now and I love it. Im just curious has anyone else went from a full size keyboard (7510/20) to the 7100 slip letter keyboard blackberry's? How is the typing on them? Do you need to push the letter twice, or hold a shift key?

Also when is the targeted release for the 7100 with Nextel? September-October?
Thanks, Shane


target release date is November. I use both a 7520 and 7100t and have little to no problems switching between either. The 7100 i would say is geared towards 1 handed typeing (in my opinion) because all the keys can be reached when holding the phone in one hand. however it is easier to type with two hands on the 7520.
   
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