i noticed the cingular was gone completely when i went to cingular and had an 3g sim card programed to my number. when i put in the new sim cingular was gone. the one i had in my phone was a couple of years old. i dont know if that had anything to do with cingular switching to at&t. if anyone wants cingular off their phone try it. i had a couple of 3g sims laying around and said what the hell. you want be charged anything if you have your own sim. has anybody with the rogers version notice it takes forever for your unit to shutdown when you turn it off?