I agree, the 8700 rocks! Too many businesses and government buildings (like courthouses) will not allow camera phones in. On top of that, they will not be responsible to hold on to it so you have to go back to your car and lock it in there. The Curve is a great phone, but is geared for the consumer market more than business. RIM made its reputation in the business world and I hope they always will offer a good phone like the 8700 without a camera.
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