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Old 06-11-2008, 11:05 AM   #1
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It began with me receiving private messages asking for beta software, which we all (should?) know is against forum rules. Then people began going to my website and sending me emails there. Now people are finding me on facebook and asking. It is sad and pathetic that people will actually go to stalker-esque lengths to find beta software. You need to reevaluate your entire life if it means that much.

I am authorized to have this software, 99% of you are not an for numerous good reasons that I will not go into. I disclosed that I have beta software in an effort to help members of this forum. This admission has been met with greed and selfishness.

There needs to be something done about this ASAP. I have been forced to lock down my facebook profile to the point where it is not searchable. I have begun ignoring the email at to my website. I am proposing some sort of formal system for reporting, or I will have to delete my account here.

Any suggestions short of a restraining order would be very welcome. Thank you

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Old 06-11-2008, 11:08 AM   #2
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All the things you have done seem good, and reasonable. I don't think a restraining order is quite appropriate for this situation, either.

You might remove the invitation in your signature. Sort of like an attractive nuisance.

If you will let one of the mods know of any PMs you receive, we can take care of that on our end. Glad to help.
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:13 AM   #3
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I actually just added that in my signature this morning in a last ditch effort... but yeah, seems like a bad idea in retrospect. Thanks for your help JS
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:14 AM   #4
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Wirelessly posted (from the bathroom)

That sucks, but what else can you do?
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:28 AM   #5
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Wirelessly posted (bb8320TMO)

I say enroll those who ignore your request to be left alone in as many spam mailing lists as you can
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I say start throwing rocks! JK. What I don't understand is, these people are smart enough to hunt you down on every avenue, wasting time badgering you over it. But they don't have the common sense to use google. It just blows me away. Reminds me of a lazy stylist that I used to work with, that wanted someone else to sweep their hair after they made the money from the service. Just lazy. I have had zero problems finding the beta's. although they are buggy as heck, they still want them to say they had them first.I can't stand that kind of attitude. Eventually the OS will be official, and we will all have a copy. But I fear that the response will be the same as the betas. Lots of bugs, and we'll be the one trying to fix them.
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:50 PM   #7
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...i think someone just wants to feel important...
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:06 PM   #8
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use the delete button...
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:19 PM   #9
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use an alias and don't self promote your personal stuff.....or get two accounts one for unnecessary self promotion and another to tell people that you have the latest OS and we don't...then you can ignore all the PMs that come in on that account!!!
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Beta software is normally given under a non-disclosure agreement. While you may be authorized, this basically means you're not supposed to tell anyone under penalty of losing the privilege, at the very least. It should remain confidential between you and the entity that gave it to you.

My suggestion... don't talk about it.
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It really isn't "unnecessary self promotion", it is putting a link in my signature. I should be able to do that without pathetic basement dwellers trying to track me down online. Clearly, I underestimated how important the validation of having a piece of software to whine about is.
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Beta software is normally given under a non-disclosure agreement. While you may be authorized, this basically means you're not supposed to tell anyone under penalty of losing the privilege, at the very least. It should remain confidential between you and the entity that gave it to you.

My suggestion... don't talk about it.
I only lent help to fellow forum members. I never brought up that I was authorized to have it until this thread. And thanks for telling me about things you assumed I signed. Mod, feel free to shut down the thread at this point. My bad.
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Old 06-11-2008, 08:31 PM   #13
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I only lent help to fellow forum members. I never brought up that I was authorized to have it until this thread. And thanks for telling me about things you assumed I signed. Mod, feel free to shut down the thread at this point. My bad.
The help was appreciated and I just lent some friendly advise. People won't spontaneously ask you for beta software. Perhaps you forgot about this post. While it makes no difference to me, perhaps RIM should reconsider their beta practices if you didn't sign anything.

Please go ahead and close. I think the point was made.
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Old 06-11-2008, 08:34 PM   #14
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I would just PM a Moderator with the names and see if they would do something about it.
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The help was appreciated and I just lent some friendly advise. People won't spontaneously ask you for beta software. Perhaps you forgot about this post. While it makes no difference to me, perhaps RIM should reconsider their beta practices if you didn't sign anything.

Please go ahead and close. I think the point was made.
Good catch, didn't even remember that. That was a poor decision. But even then, can we all agree that the behavior of certain members is out of line? What sparked my decision to say anything was to a)see if it was happening elsewhere and b) see what I could do to make it stop, regardless of any comments I have made. I have contributed in a way I like to think was productive (outside of this thread), and to have my transparency backfire sort of sucks. I can tell you I violated no contractual agreements in the process. I wanted to help with the transition in OS, but I'm done with that.
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It's just one of those things that happens when you have what others are interested in. Be it knowledge, software, hardware, etc. I get many PM's every day asking for help with this and that. I can't answer them all. Seriously, I could take much of my time answering PM's. To be quite honest, I have to just ignore many of them.

Your contributions are appreciated here...just ignore the PM's and delete the emails. If it becomes a problem just PM one of the mods and we can help.
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:26 PM   #17
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I would just get over it. Seriously do you really care that much that people sent you PMs and emails? You sound like the girl at the bar who gets annoyed when guys hit on her, but would actually be mad if no one paid attention to her.
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I would just get over it. Seriously do you really care that much that people sent you PMs and emails? You sound like the girl at the bar who gets annoyed when guys hit on her, but would actually be mad if no one paid attention to her.
No its just annoying when people are PM'ing, Emailing. and getting on his website trying to find a Beta OS. Name calling and talking **it isn't called for whenever he was courteous in his post about his problem.
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Yes. Please stop PMing people asking for betas. It's against forum rules and can result in your being banned from posting on this forum.

Thread closed as it's no longer constructive.
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