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Old 09-19-2007, 04:02 PM   #21
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Oh goodie, now we get to play the game of trying to find a store to sell one outright if you're still in contract.
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:10 PM   #22
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I think I read today that there was a misprint and it wasnt going to be released until tomorrow. Could be wrong though. Are you all 8800 owners who are going to upgrade? I'm looking to buy an old 8800 and dont really care about the wifi.
how much you willing to pay for a BB8800 5 month old mint condition Cingular?ATT
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:43 PM   #23
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Oh goodie, now we get to play the game of trying to find a store to sell one outright if you're still in contract.
I have never had any trouble getting a company ATT store to sell me a newly released phone. Never.

Be careful and do not go to an "authorized" dealer as they are a little scarey. They pretty well do as they wish but seldom have new phone on release day. If you have trouble figuring out who is who, stay away from Kiosks!
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:00 PM   #24
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I have never had any trouble getting a company ATT store to sell me a newly released phone. Never.

Be careful and do not go to an "authorized" dealer as they are a little scarey. They pretty well do as they wish but seldom have new phone on release day. If you have trouble figuring out who is who, stay away from Kiosks!
It kills me to hear about you guys that never have trouble. I only go to corporate stores here in the Irvine area and everytime it's a hassle.

I'm glad to hear that some people can easily buy them though
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:03 PM   #25
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what can you use the wifi for exactly? besides browsing faster at home or work where you have a computer???

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Keep in mind that this device is more focused to business users.

RIM is quoted as saying, "The BlackBerry 8820 smartphone allows BlackBerry smartphone users with qualifying data plans to access BlackBerry data services using a wireless network, a Wi-Fi network, or both networks simultaneously." including BES, MDS, BIS, BB Messenger, PIN Messaging and other data services "Having the option to simultaneously access both a wireless network and a Wi-Fi network allows users to do multiple tasks at once. For example... can send email messages using a Wi-Fi network, while conducting a phone call using the wireless network."

I'm working with my corporate IT group to help me understand any necessary components from the integration end (RIM calls it the 'BlackBerry Router') but I'm not getting very far with them. I figure once I get it, then I'll raise a bigger stink.

I'm personally more focused on using VPN or IPSec over Wi-Fi speeds to access my internal business systems. I've got a 7290 now and GPRS is slower than booting my laptop. I can think of (in my case) nearly 90% of my day to day work being 'tether-free', assuming Wi-Fi availability, with no recognizable delay of service to my internal customers.

Panera at lunch, local pub in the afternoon, golf clubhouse - think of the possibilities...

Then other apps come into play; Corporate IM, Corporate Presence, VoIP Softphone (skype, Cisco, etc.), and so on.

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Old 09-19-2007, 05:24 PM   #26
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I went to the AT&T store today to trade in my curve and they said the 8820 is supposed to be in tomorrow.
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:43 PM   #27
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They say the first "Blackberry with WiFi". Not exactly true now, is it? The 8830 has been out for a while now. Perhaps they meant to release this first, wrote the press announcement a month ago, and didn't bother to update it.
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:50 PM   #28
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They say the first "Blackberry with WiFi". Not exactly true now, is it? The 8830 has been out for a while now. Perhaps they meant to release this first, wrote the press announcement a month ago, and didn't bother to update it.
I don't know if you are joking, caught out of the loop, or high. But the 8830 does not have WiFi and never did. It is the 8800 for CDMA networks with EVDO broadband. That is NOT WiFi as it will not let you connect to your local wireless network. The 8820 is the 8800 for GSM networks and DOES include WiFi. HUGE difference don't let the higher number fool you. It is not an incremental version number. It is a product number.
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I'll be damned, I'm WAY out of the loop. I could have sworn the 8830 "World Phone" had WiFi. Being a T-Mobile guy and dedicated fan of GSM I must admit to not paying too much attention to the offerings by Verizon, but clearly I've been caught with my pants down!
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I'll be damned, I'm WAY out of the loop. I could have sworn the 8830 "World Phone" had WiFi. Being a T-Mobile guy and dedicated fan of GSM I must admit to not paying too much attention to the offerings by Verizon, but clearly I've been caught with my pants down!
D'oh!
I've been caught with my pants down before. But to your defense (partially? Lol) its not the first one with WiFi. There was a blackberry a long time ago with WiFi. But that is all it had. It was not a phone in the common sense. The awesome thing about you is you will admit when you have your pants down. Lol some people here are bitter to admitting wrongness. I have been so wrong before it was pitiful. I was caught with not only my pants down, but wearing a frilly pink skirt with a wand and diamond tiera. Now THAT was embarrassing. Lol

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Old 09-19-2007, 06:43 PM   #31
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I've been caught with my pants down before. But to your defense (partially? Lol) its not the first one with WiFi. There was a blackberry a long time ago with WiFi. But that is all it had. It was not a phone in the common sense. The awesome thing about you is you will admit when you have your pants down. Lol some people here are bitter to admitting wrongness. I have been so wrong before it was pitiful. I was caught with not only my pants down, but wearing a frilly pink skirt with a wand and diamond tiera. Now THAT was embarrassing. Lol
You and I appear to be cut from the same cloth.
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You and I appear to be cut from the same cloth.
OH? You wear a diamond tierra and pink frilly skirt too? I might stop with the frilly skirt because it doesnt support my figure and does not do justice to my moobs. That ... and I need a black skirt to really make my eyes pop you know what I mean? Something with more ooomf!
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:17 PM   #33
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It kills me to hear about you guys that never have trouble. I only go to corporate stores here in the Irvine area and everytime it's a hassle.

I'm glad to hear that some people can easily buy them though
Go to ATT Store in Kaleidascope off Crown Valley. Ask for Robert (Store Manager)

Tell him AMS MIKE sent you. Very good friend of mine and will not BS you.

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Old 09-20-2007, 07:27 AM   #34
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Mine's ordered through Premier website this morning at 8am EDT.

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Old 09-20-2007, 08:11 AM   #35
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Is the Premier website AT&T's business account portal?
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:14 AM   #36
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whats the non-contract price? it shows up as -50.00 on the regular website and wont let you add it to cart?
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:23 AM   #37
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That's interesting. All other phones on the site include a "List Price." 8820 doesn't have that.

I'm waiting to see what Amazon's price will be when it pops up over there. Hopefully sooner than later.
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interesting fact....this came off the att website..


"Instant Messaging - Yahoo!®, AOL®, & Windows Live(TM) Messenger via download"

i assume this means that they finally will push the service books for the AIM client?
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:36 AM   #39
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Well I am able to scan for Wifi networks and I saw my home network added my SSID but still no connection. I tried the office wifi as well same error. Unknown Network Failure. Need to keep playing with it to figure it out. Also want to mod the internal gps so I can use bb maps or anything other than the ridiculous $10/mo telenav
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I didn't realize AT&T was locking the GPS to Telenav. I don't believe this is the case with the 8800?
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