[John Clark]

Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM

I think he watches "King of the Hill".

likely!

[jibi]

Originally Posted by Galvatron

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Can I get a congressional medal of honer to go with that?

I normally don't respond about your Engrish, but how in the hell did you not misspell 'congressional'? Just curious. I had an ex-girlfriend who claimed she was dyslexic because she couldn't spell or piece together sentences (and to think she's a college graduate now) ...I always thought she was just stupid (although I don't think that about you, Galv).

[TBOLTRAM]

Is this sort of like the saying "You have to be rich to dress that poorly?"

[JSanders]

Originally Posted by Dawg

how the heck did you understand what he said?

Oh, I have an Australian Shepherd/Border Collie Mix.

Originally Posted by Galvatron

Can I get a congressional medal of honer to go with that?

No, but the BlackBerryForum's Medal of BullSh?t is available.

[Fiasco]

I'm also waiting for the 8820, just for the wifi. Up till now I have never been able to get gps working on my 8800, so them crippling gps really doesn't bother me at all.

Sucks that they still do stuff like that though...

[Galvatron]

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The gps is easy to set up onthe 8800 screw att I'm cheering gorge holtz. Sticking it to appl an att's monopoly

[MichaelBB]

They have not even released the new 8820 and everyone is going by speculation, rumor control. Give it a rest and see what happens

[Aroc]

Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM

Maybe VZW and ATT are fixing to merge and are currently synchronizing their management styles.

Since both carriers offer exception coverage in many markets, I'd say the free market is working as intended. :-D

RIMM is going to be at the mercy of the carriers since virtually no one is going to buy an unsubsidized handheld (and CDMA carriers in the U.S. [VZW and SPRINT] don't tend to allow unbranded handsets on their networks, leaving only the GMS carriers (ignore the depricated iDEN for the moment). and carriers need to increase ARPU.

I don't see people complaining that WiFi voice is for UMA and not free services a la Skype. I think that should be a bigger concern for most people than GPS.

As long as people are buying subsidize handsets (aka less than full MSPR) what exactly do you expect? the carriers are going to want revenue. And as long as the revenue is being used to either increase features, reliabilty, or usability for me and my company. I won't complain to much.

I know RIMM may not appreciate carriers restricting WiFi or GPS access, as long as the carriers are moving handsets, I don't believe RIMM will care. RIMM has so much other concerns that could build value for consumers or companies, it isnt funny. i'd like to see even more development. the cheapskates can complain all they want.

[shtekler]

Originally Posted by Aroc

Since both carriers offer exception coverage in many markets, I'd say the free market is working as intended. :-D

RIMM is going to be at the mercy of the carriers since virtually no one is going to buy an unsubsidized handheld (and CDMA carriers in the U.S. [VZW and SPRINT] don't tend to allow unbranded handsets on their networks, leaving only the GMS carriers (ignore the depricated iDEN for the moment). and carriers need to increase ARPU.

I don't see people complaining that WiFi voice is for UMA and not free services a la Skype. I think that should be a bigger concern for most people than GPS.

As long as people are buying subsidize handsets (aka less than full MSPR) what exactly do you expect? the carriers are going to want revenue. And as long as the revenue is being used to either increase features, reliabilty, or usability for me and my company. I won't complain to much.

I know RIMM may not appreciate carriers restricting WiFi or GPS access, as long as the carriers are moving handsets, I don't believe RIMM will care. RIMM has so much other concerns that could build value for consumers or companies, it isnt funny. i'd like to see even more development. the cheapskates can complain all they want.

I will for sure buy from RIM a full version of BB not restricted for MSRP.

[Galvatron]

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Hech yeah I ussually buy my devices at invoice to avoid conract extensiion and possabl raiss of rates. Give me the un waterd down stuff heck I was intersted in on of thos htc advantage prototypes. Th 87501 just to see how it performs befor brandind also the shit wich is baseed off this prototype is 100-200 mhz slower than the prototype. And prbaly crippled . Imagain what no whatered dow bb's can do alon with an unrestricted os.

[jeremyckitching]

Originally Posted by Galvatron

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Hech yeah I ussually buy my devices at invoice to avoid conract extensiion and possabl raiss of rates. Give me the un waterd down stuff heck I was intersted in on of thos htc advantage prototypes. Th 87501 just to see how it performs befor brandind also the shit wich is baseed off this prototype is 100-200 mhz slower than the prototype. And prbaly crippled . Imagain what no whatered dow bb's can do alon with an unrestricted os.

WOW!! Always amazes me...

[John Clark]

Galv, edit your post for spelling and language...

[Galvatron]

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I menat to say shift lol. I have notice however thatunlik palm and htc and nkia rim dosn't sell direct. On ther devices pace it saiys were to buy an just deverts you to the carriers web page.

[John Clark]

Galv...EDIT THE POSTS SO WE CAN READ THEM!!!!!

[eTHE2]

Ouch! I have headache!

[TBOLTRAM]

I can understand what Galvanic is saying but suggest that a spell checker function be added to the forum if possible.

My earlier comment about VZW and AT&T merging was a less than successful attempt at humor. I say that because some of the reader took it seriously.

[AlexKidd]

Originally Posted by TBOLTRAM

I can understand what Galvanic is saying but suggest that a spell checker function be added to the forum if possible.

My earlier comment about VZW and AT&T merging was a less than successful attempt at humor. I say that because some of the reader took it seriously.

I knew it, as well as a lot of other people. I didn't want to actually take the time and wasted space to point it out.

--Kidd

[Dude]

According to crackberry.com (September 4th Launch Date for the AT&T BlackBerry 8820 | CrackBerry.com) the AT&T 8820 will be released with GPS undisturbed. Has anyone received the mailer mentioned in the link?

[Malkier]

Last I read on this subject was this.

AT&T Pays Attention To The Blogosphere | RIMarkable | The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog

Youxxx8217;ve got to give it to BlackBerry Coolxxx8230; When they leaked rumors that AT&T was going to lock down GPS in the BlackBerry 8820 internet collectively got ticked off and it would appear that AT&T has changed their tune.

Right now RIM and AT&T are in the process of renegotiating the GPS status of the BlackBerry 8820. Wexxx8217;re not sure if the deal has been finalized yet, but if the AT&T documents are correct, it seems at least all but a done deal.

[John Clark]

Originally Posted by Malkier

Last I read on this subject was this.

AT&T Pays Attention To The Blogosphere | RIMarkable | The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog

You’ve got to give it to BlackBerry Cool… When they leaked rumors that AT&T was going to lock down GPS in the BlackBerry 8820 internet collectively got ticked off and it would appear that AT&T has changed their tune.

Right now RIM and AT&T are in the process of renegotiating the GPS status of the BlackBerry 8820. We’re not sure if the deal has been finalized yet, but if the AT&T documents are correct, it seems at least all but a done deal.

Interesting! Thanks for the link!