[Blackberryer]

Originally Posted by JSanders

Varying Verizon users have reported varying results.

That doesn't fill me with confidence. I guess it's not that big of a deal, I don't really need GPS on my phone. It is a very cool feature, though.

[macflauaus]

Bringing this thread back to life because of the newly released training guide.

On page 27, it talks about the features of the camera application and it mentions geotagging. Geotagging can only really be done accurately with GPS. So will Verizon have it open for everything or just geotagging aside from VZ Navigator?

[complexx]

Originally Posted by spbbp

May be wishful thinking (and I don't care as I'm with AT&T). Still, reading the above quote again and again, makes me believe that RIM may not allow Verizon to lock down the GPS with Storm anymore...

Anyone else read the same?

Wishful thinking my friend. Even though VZW advertises GPS as a feature, in reality, they consider it a service. You will pay for it with everyphone or with none. They would lose a whole lot of customers if it was provided for free for "certain users."

[benjamin7062]

This thread is mostly old and a lot of information has been released since most of the posts. It appears, based on most of the training documentation for verizon, that they intend to leave GPS enabled. Most of their documentation implies Blackberry Maps will be available this time around.

This is a huge sigh of relief. Not because I care if I pay $10.00 but mainly because we won't have to read 100 whiny posts about it on the forums.

[Mark_Venture]

Originally Posted by complexx

Wishful thinking my friend. Even though VZW advertises GPS as a feature, in reality, they consider it a service. You will pay for it with everyphone or with none. They would lose a whole lot of customers if it was provided for free for "certain users."

But didn't Verizon change their advertising sometime after the 8830 to say "VZNav capable" with no other mention of GPS, rather than saying GPS capable like they had been? i.e. saying GPS capable implied the GPS can be used by any/all apps.. where as VZNav capable implies it can use VZnav.

I've already posted what my little birdy told me.. I'm just waiting for the release to see if its true...

[lindros2]

This is a MUCH better GPS solution than the VZNavigator crap:

Costco - $199.99 after $40 OFF Garmin nüvi 205W 4.3" Touch Screen GPS w/ Portable GPS Bean Bag Mount

Oh, and it's $199.

[TheBigNewt]

Every Verizon phone is listed as coming with GPS, whether or not it has a true GPS radio. My son just got a new Voyager and paid an extra $5/mo for Navigator he wanted. But it's just a cell network GPS. The Storm will have true GPS and the Verizon ads say it comes with BB Maps and Navigotor (which they say is better because of voice turn by turn, locates in buildings, etc.) I get that but is it possible that you could use only BB Maps without paying for the Navigator fee?

[hop2000]

I would love to see them have the GPS truely "unlocked" and free of a monthly fee. However, I find it hard to believe that they would not charge a fee for this like they have been doing for quite some time know. As most have agreed, I can not see spending the money monthly that Verizon charges for their navigator service when you could buy a tom tom one for about $150.

[Jason Mark]

Word is GPS will not be locked.

[Mark_Venture]

Originally Posted by TheBigNewt

Every Verizon phone is listed as coming with GPS, whether or not it has a true GPS radio. My son just got a new Voyager and paid an extra $5/mo for Navigator he wanted. But it's just a cell network GPS. The Storm will have true GPS and the Verizon ads say it comes with BB Maps and Navigotor (which they say is better because of voice turn by turn, locates in buildings, etc.) I get that but is it possible that you could use only BB Maps without paying for the Navigator fee?

And look at Verizon's web site... it just lists VZNavigator.. NOT GPS for the Voyager which was my point.

Originally Posted by Jason Mark

Word is GPS will not be locked.

That is what my little birdy had told me...

[BigA]

Originally Posted by Jason Mark

Word is GPS will not be locked.

Big fat tears of joy are running down my face, as I glance over at the gates of hell. I see a snow flake in the distance.

[Triforce66]

Originally Posted by BigA

Big fat tears of joy are running down my face, as I glance over at the gates of hell. I see a snow flake in the distance.

hahahaha, I love this quote..

[jbinbi]

can anyone tell me if i purchase vzw navigator if the this unlocks the gps for any app or just vzw navigator. i want to use the gps for hiking etc., not just car. I hate to have to carry another handheld gps when my phone has a perfectly good one. i would gladly pay the 10/mo if it unlocks the gps and lets other apps use it.

[BigA]

Originally Posted by jbinbi

can anyone tell me if i purchase vzw navigator if the this unlocks the gps for any app or just vzw navigator. i want to use the gps for hiking etc., not just car. I hate to have to carry another handheld gps when my phone has a perfectly good one. i would gladly pay the 10/mo if it unlocks the gps and lets other apps use it.

Read above, specifically JSanders reply.

For the most part no. Buying VZ nav will not unlock for any 3rd party application.

[TroyDBrown]

I have spoken to many people and have been told it is not locked. I am really hoping this is true.

[Jason Mark]

Originally Posted by TroyDBrown

I have spoken to many people and have been told it is not locked. I am really hoping this is true.

Correct Troy, it's not going to be locked.

[JSanders]

I won't be the nay-sayer, but I only want to point out that if it is locked on the 8830, 8330 and 8130, how will VZW justify GPS being unlocked only on the Storm?

I am not so confident in VZW.

[spbbp]

Originally Posted by JSanders

I won't be the nay-sayer, but I only want to point out that if it is locked on the 8830, 8330 and 8130, how will VZW justify GPS being unlocked only on the Storm?

I am not so confident in VZW.

That was exactly my thought too. Non-Storm VZW customers won't be happy if they decide it to leave it unlocked on Storm. But, I guess stranger things have happened in the past...

[Jason Mark]

Originally Posted by JSanders

I won't be the nay-sayer, but I only want to point out that if it is locked on the 8830, 8330 and 8130, how will VZW justify GPS being unlocked only on the Storm?

I am not so confident in VZW.

They don't have to. Plus, it's a good way to entice customers to get the Storm.

[TheBigNewt]

It's wishful thinking, but JSanders has an excellent point (as always). If word gets out they unlocked one device, the folks will be "Storming" the Bastille to get out of paying $5-10/month for GPS.