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Old 12-29-2008, 12:14 AM   #21
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To be frank, RIM gets the OS's out fairly quickly. It's the carriers that drag their feet. I think it's safe to say that RIM has been frustrated with how long it has taken to get carriers to release updates. I know this was the case with the Storm release.
for reals...there are still carriers with only 4.3 and phones in stock with 4.2
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Old 12-29-2008, 07:57 AM   #22
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for reals...there are still carriers with only 4.3 and phones in stock with 4.2
4.5.0.77 was floating around for a loong time before VZW marked it as "official".
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Old 01-16-2009, 04:04 PM   #23
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hmmm there seems to be a lot there for Outlook users... I wonder if Lotus Notes users will have a similar set of features?
I was wondering the same thing. Anybody?
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If you're on AT&T, what makes anyone think there will be an OS upgrade to 5.0 - seems like we're still waiting for an "official" 4.5 aren't we? Sure, you can try to make other carrier releases work (thanks to places like Blackberry Forums and others), but my lowly Curve 8310 had a lot of quirks with those, and the replacement Bold, with it's own branded 4.5, is far more stable...

Chalk it up to one more strong arm tactic by AT&T to force upgrades. I'll bet they are steaming at corporate that iPhone's OS 2 worked on the first generation iPhones!
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Carriers make very little money on upgrades. They just want you back in contract.



I believe ATT has already released 4.5 for most of their devices.



If you are of the "assumption" that other carrier's OS releases are less stable than your carrier's then you are sorely mistaken. They aren't "branded" in any way other than the vendor.xml file. There are many reasons for these OS updates. Many 3rd party app developers work closely with RIM and they find bugs in the OS, as well, and those are incorporated into these upgrades. So, don't make a blanket statement that your "official" version from your carrier is "best."

Oh, and your Bold has 4.6. Not 4.5.

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Carriers make very little money on upgrades. They just want you back in contract.



I believe ATT has already released 4.5 for most of their devices.



If you are of the "assumption" that other carrier's OS releases are less stable than your carrier's then you are sorely mistaken. They aren't "branded" in any way other than the vendor.xml file. There are many reasons for these OS updates. Many 3rd party app developers work closely with RIM and they find bugs in the OS, as well, and those are incorporated into these upgrades. So, don't make a blanket statement that your "official" version from your carrier is "best."

Oh, and your Bold has 4.6. Not 4.5.
My apologies on the 4.5 front for AT&T - it was "officially" released 12/12/08, and in my haste to upgrade to the Bold I missed the announcement since my Curve was retired. Nonetheless, not to quibble with the voice of authority, but 4.5 from other vendors, used on the AT&T network, was quirky, and I base that on personal experience and reading dozens (if not hundreds) of pages of forum reports from this and other sites by folks having a difficult time upgrading their phones with the non-carrier brands (vendor.xml file notwithstanding). I was not denigrating other vendor's OS releases, just their applicability to AT&T's network and the workarounds users must ebdure to make them work.

Your comment about "back in contract" belies the truth of the situation - whether or not they make money on the upgrade handset, they DON'T get you back in contract with the OS upgrade, but they DO get you back with the hardware upgrade, so either way the name of the game is to slow pitch the OS upgrades and push hardware upgrades...good for both AT&T and the device manufacturer. Besides, in general, which carrier is slower than AT&T in releasing OS upgrades that so many other GSM carriers have already released to their customers?
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I just want to know if the 8900 will see OS 4.7 (is 4.7 different, or just a 4.6 for the Storm) AND if any of the 83XXs will see OS 4.6 like the 8350i did?
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I just want to know if the 8900 will see OS 4.7 (is 4.7 different, or just a 4.6 for the Storm) AND if any of the 83XXs will see OS 4.6 like the 8350i did?
As was said in one of your other threads your guess is as good as anybody else right now.

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