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03-29-2009, 08:03 PM
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Free UMA calls/text without T-Mobile @home
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Am I crazy?
I have the radio portion of my Blackberry 8900 turned off, leaving wifi only on.
I am connected to my Linksys WRT-54g wireless router running dd-wrt.
My blackberry connected for the first time over wifi, did some up,down receiving arrows, then it said UMA... hmmm
I have been sending/receiving texts/calls over wifi obviously. The thing is, I don't have a T-Mobile @home router, how is this possible? I'm not even being billed as I can track my usage realtime. Exploit? booyah.
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03-29-2009, 08:28 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Central Lower Michigan
Model: 8320
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Wirelessly posted (8320 Titanium)
You don't need tmo's router to use UMA. Do you pay for their hotspot @ home plan for $10/month??
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03-29-2009, 08:51 PM
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No, I called them to ask what the deal was, they said you can use any wifi spot without the plan but it gets deducted out of your minutes/sms bucket, LAME.
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03-30-2009, 03:58 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Model: 9700
OS: 5.0.0.714
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only point to pay for the $10/mo plan is to get unlimited phone calls through wifi.
Like you found out, even without the plan you can still use wifi and UMA, it just deducts your minutes cause it counts as a "regular" call.
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03-30-2009, 06:08 AM
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Alexandria, VA
Model: 9700
Carrier: T-Mobile
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thebluecoat,
Not lame - GREAT! The benefits - no problem with signal strength in my house without having to buy a pico/femtocell (see AT&T, others...) and overseas calls back to the states via wifi/UMA are out of my domestic minutes so no overseas roaming (extortion level) per minute rates!
SMF
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03-30-2009, 12:44 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Model: 8220
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yeah, UMA was the only reason I upgraded my phone with TMo. I never had any reception at my condo and now it works like a charm. overseas thing is great too.
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03-31-2009, 11:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thebluecoat
No, I called them to ask what the deal was, they said you can use any wifi spot without the plan but it gets deducted out of your minutes/sms bucket, LAME.
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Not too lame. It's the only way I can get reliable service at home. Also, when traveling overseas, calls can be made and just use minutes. No roaming costs. Just need to find an available wifi hotspot. |
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03-31-2009, 11:34 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: Z30
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UMA= 
No @Home plan here, either. |
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04-05-2009, 01:08 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thebluecoat
No, I called them to ask what the deal was, they said you can use any wifi spot without the plan but it gets deducted out of your minutes/sms bucket, LAME.
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If you don't like it - turn radio on and make calls over wireless network. You have nothing to lose: calls over wireless networks will be deducted from your minutes.  |
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04-05-2009, 01:34 PM
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NY
Model: 9700
OS: 6.0.0.576
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thebluecoat
Am I crazy?
I have the radio portion of my Blackberry 8900 turned off, leaving wifi only on.
I am connected to my Linksys WRT-54g wireless router running dd-wrt.
My blackberry connected for the first time over wifi, did some up,down receiving arrows, then it said UMA... hmmm
I have been sending/receiving texts/calls over wifi obviously. The thing is, I don't have a T-Mobile @home router, how is this possible? I'm not even being billed as I can track my usage realtime. Exploit? booyah.
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Well, it uses your TMobile minutes but you can surf the web for free......
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04-05-2009, 05:51 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Dallas, Texas (Manhattan Beach, CA Coming soon)
Model: 8790
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I think that UMA is one of the most ground breaking ideas to date from tmo. I didn't realize how amazing it was until I got it home and used it.
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04-06-2009, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New York
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PIN: 24AEA8D2
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The Unlimited Wifi Calling is the best add-on T-Mobile is offering!
If you do have the add-on make sure your settings are correct.
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04-09-2009, 10:43 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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What are correct settings to use UMA?
Victor mentions that it is important to have the correct settings to use UMA. I am in a hotel in Bratislava with a good strong wi-fi signal that my BB 8320 says it is connected to but in the status window it shows a yellow dot with a line through it. I can not surf the web nor synchronize my gmail with the phone; the error message says I don't have data capability in this location. I've turned off the phone radio so I have only wifi operating on the phone. The home screen shows the SSID of the wireless network but the "WIFI" icon at the upper right corner is dark.
I am guessing I have some setting wrong. At home in the US I have easily used my home wireless router to surf the net with my BB but I have had no luck anywhere in Europe thus far, making me jealous of all the users around me seemingly having an easy time of it. I have a US unlimited data plan and have installed a Czech SIM card but I do want to use the net and perhaps make calls via wifi.
What settings should I look at or change?
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04-09-2009, 10:49 AM
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Many of the settings are on the router/network you are using. Not all networks will be compatible. Basically, it doesn't always work on every network.
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04-09-2009, 10:56 AM
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So far I have tried at least 8 wifi spots and the result is always the same: the phone "sees" the wifi, says it is connected, but won't surf or synch, and shows the yellow dot minus sign icon in the status page. I find it hard not to believe something is set wrong. When I try to use data services I sometimes get a message that my connection can not manage data and to review my settings (how precise).
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04-09-2009, 11:15 AM
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Error code for UMA any help?
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Originally Posted by John Clark
Many of the settings are on the router/network you are using. Not all networks will be compatible. Basically, it doesn't always work on every network.
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Under WiFi diagnostics I found error code W005.1. Does this clarify the issue at all? The same screen shows "UMA WiFi Available (green check)" and "Connection" (black dot, red X). |
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04-09-2009, 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edgross208
...I have a US unlimited data plan and have installed a Czech SIM card but I do want to use the net and perhaps make calls via wifi...
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If you are trying to use UMA with the Czech SIM card, you will not get UMA unless they offer it. You have to put your home SIM in it and have a wifi connection that works.
Are you trying this with the home SIM or the Czech one? |
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04-09-2009, 11:06 PM
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Some hotspots require a login or going through an initial welcome screen even if they are free (like Whole Foods Market) then you become authenticated and your traffic is allowed. Otherwise, you will see the connected checkmark and WiFi will not be grayed out and still no UMA.
What happens when you browse with the built-in browser? If it works, you should be able to use UMA but of course you need a T-Mobile or some other SIM card from a provider that have UMA backend support. UMA requires special servers to be setup to actually route the calls through WiFi into the "normal" phones' world.
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04-10-2009, 09:01 AM
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I have been using my Czech SIM card when trying wifi hotspots, and with the phone connection turned off. I'll try it as you describe..Thanks
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04-10-2009, 09:02 AM
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With the built-in browser I get either an error message to the effect that the phone is not in a location where data can be handled, or else I get a screen showing "requesting' but nothing happens.
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