That is rediculos. Today went to T-mobole store, they do not have it. Was told to get it trough the web. On the web can not upgrade because it's not listed for upgrade, called support they do not even know that they have this phone for sale. The girl told me they do not carry it anymore, when I directed her to T-mobile website, she was surprised and told me I can not upgrade, only to 8700
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Sucks! Any Ideas?