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Old 08-27-2009, 02:02 PM   #41
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Heh, and there lies the problem. Too many people really do believe there are no rules in life.

But there are.
There are rules, but "rules" (keep reading) should not govern and dictate who you are as a person. Rules are there to enforce some commonality in a situation like community, business, ect,. The rules I was referring to were rules of life (which as we know we are not told but learn them through situations), not the rules within our lives (i.e. legal, political, etc,.)
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:12 PM   #42
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There are rules, but "rules" (keep reading) should not govern and dictate who you are as a person.
Correct. Those would be known as "morals" or even one's own character. It's all semantics, but rules, guidelines, morals or principles do govern (or at least should govern) who a person is.

We are known by our actions and our deeds.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:29 PM   #43
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Correct. Those would be known as "morals" or even one's own character. It's all semantics, but rules, guidelines, morals or principles do govern (or at least should govern) who a person is.

We are known by our actions and our deeds.
True that! You rlast comment is the problem I think, our actions are always seen before our deeds, especially in the world we live in which sucks. This unfortunetly is the way it is, and that I know.
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There really aren't any rules, but just some common sense things I think.
I don't like to refer to it as common sense. I like to call it good sense, because it doesn't seem to be too common these days.
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Excuse me miss and I could care less what you have done in your life, not my need to be personal. My issue is that you should add more substance to your badgering on the thread, instead of being partial, next time, and to make a decent point as JSanders has above. If roles were reversed and Senator was a she, I would not feel any anger or resentment towards the "dead man". Life is a game. We all choose to play it how we want. There really aren't any rules, but just some common sense things I think. One of those things: Is it better to beat a dead horse when it's dead? Why resent someone when they're dead? What good is it gonna do to try to weigh the negative things in a persons life with the positives? Out of decency and respect, throw the negative stuff out; what good will it do to play that game now?

Let him (them) live on, you live on, we live on and move on!
I resented him when he was alive so why not resent him when hes dead. And excuse me sir but you did in fact ask what my legacy will be.

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I have no respect for him or any other one in that family. So none will be given in death as none was given in life. The whole family is a disgrace to humanity.
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Excuse me miss and I could care less what you have done in your life, not my need to be personal. My issue is that you should add more substance to your badgering on the thread, instead of being partial, next time, and to make a decent point as JSanders has above. If roles were reversed and Senator was a she, I would not feel any anger or resentment towards the "dead man". Life is a game. We all choose to play it how we want. There really aren't any rules, but just some common sense things I think. One of those things: Is it better to beat a dead horse when it's dead? Why resent someone when they're dead? What good is it gonna do to try to weigh the negative things in a persons life with the positives? Out of decency and respect, throw the negative stuff out; what good will it do to play that game now?

Let him (them) live on, you live on, we live on and move on!
I resented him when he was alive so why not resent him when hes dead. And excuse me sir but you did in fact ask what my legacy will be.

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I have no respect for him or any other one in that family. So none will be given in death as none was given in life. The whole family is a disgrace to humanity.
And I will bet that you call yourself a Christian, don't you. Fascinating, just like a train wreck.
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No one is perfect but the value of a man is whether they can overcome their demons and to me Teddy did that.
Overcoming his demons, IMHO, includes coming clean about all that those demons caused... The only admission he ever made regarding the Mary Jo Kopechne incident was that he admitted leaving the scene of the accident.

As far as I am concerned, he did not overcome anything. He was directly responsible for that young lady's death, and literally got away with murder.
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And I will bet that you call yourself a Christian, don't you. Fascinating, just like a train wreck.
Actually no I do not consider myself a Christian. I am native American and I have many Gods.

Why must you throw insults at me so much you don't even know me. You must be one of the people test was talking about earlier that try to intimidate people.
Well you do not scare me nor do you impress me with your fancy words.



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Overcoming his demons, IMHO, includes coming clean about all that those demons caused... The only admission he ever made regarding the Mary Jo Kopechne incident was that he admitted leaving the scene of the accident.

As far as I am concerned, he did not overcome anything. He was directly responsible for that young lady's death, and literally got away with murder.
Right on hes no better than Oj Simpson, Jeffery Daumer or Ted Bundy

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Right on hes no better than Oj Simpson, Jeffery Daumer or Ted Bundy
You lose all credibility & respect with that statement. nothing but a troll.
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You lose all credibility & respect with that statement. nothing but a troll.
I don't think I had your respect anyway, nor did I ask for it. He was a murderer plain and simple. Its a fact that he killed this lady can you deny it? Can you prove otherwise?

Glad you can throw insults around as well. Sure is funny how you were the one talking about people being intimidated and its you insulting people.

you call me a troll just because I have a different opinion than you? Maybe you are the troll, ogre or what ever.

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The never ending thread! I gave up folks. Some people are just negative. For those that wanted to stay on subject, appreciate the good comments.
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Test54 rarely gets through a thread without taking it personal, to attack the member.

I thought this thread was about Edward Kennedy, not the members here.
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You lose all credibility & respect with that statement. nothing but a troll.
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Test54 rarely gets through a thread without taking it personal, to attack the member.

I thought this thread was about Edward Kennedy, not the members here.
you actually think I was the only one to make this thread personal?
really? not you but others made it very personal.

but come on, comparing Ted Kennedy to Jeffrey Daumer is troll material. he is just looking for reactions = troll. I mean I don't like a lot of people but comparing anyone to a serial killing cannibal is just stupid.
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Yeah bud, we are all angels then huh? Regardless of his past, he's dead - give it a break! What will your legacy be when you depart?
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you actually think I was the only one to make this thread personal?
really? not you but others made it very personal.
No, you were one of three that made personal attacks on another user here. I don't consider being called a Christian an attack, but djm2 obviously intended it in a derogatory manner.
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you actually think I was the only one to make this thread personal?
really? not you but others made it very personal.

but come on, comparing Ted Kennedy to Jeffrey Daumer is troll material. he is just looking for reactions = troll. I mean I don't like a lot of people but comparing anyone to a serial killing cannibal is just stupid.
Excuse me I am not a he as has been pointed out already once in this thread. I am not looking for any reaction was just voicing my opinion as a free American has the right to do. Who has made it personal? I have only defended myself against the attacks of several here.

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Kennedy remembered as an advocate for all - CNN.com
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Well actually you don't have the 'right' here, in a privately owned (not even US-owned) forum.

Our freedom of speech does not apply across the world. While this forum is very tolerant of many opinions, the owner and his agents do the ability and "right" to deny your freedom of speech in many ways, according to the user agreement you signed upon joining.

Not that I am advocating anyone in this thread being denied that... but it's just a fact.
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Well actually you don't have the 'right' here, in a privately owned (not even US-owned) forum.

Our freedom of speech does not apply across the world. While this forum is very tolerant of many opinions, the owner and his agents do the ability and "right" to deny your freedom of speech in many ways, according to the user agreement you signed upon joining.

Not that I am advocating anyone in this thread being denied that... but it's just a fact.
I wasn't saying I had the right here I was just making a statemnet to the negative nellys.
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