[rambo47]

Originally Posted by jpfchicago

Mr. Filipino, you dont have the right to talk to people like that. This is a forum for the discussion of BB issues. Everyone is welcome to post what they know or think they know about the BB. You are not allowed to question their intergrity or use personal attacks to get your point across.

That ain't a personal attack. He's calling someone out on what sounds to me like a load of BS. Sarcasm isn't a personal attack. It's just good, clean fun!

[g_patrick15]

Originally Posted by JPREP

There are a few different models of the BlackBerry 9000. The one that everyone sees prototypes of is the Bold, the exclusive model for AT&T set for launch in June. The version set for T-Mobile (likely available in August or September) will look slightly different, yet will work on their 3G network. They also DO own more 3G space than AT&T. AT&T, if you recall, only has 3G coverage in the immediate New York City area, whereas T-Mobile will eventually roll-out their 3G coverage outside the New York City area into Long Island and New Jersey (although it is currently only available in NYC).

Is that right huh? Geez false information flies around here like a disease

[jpfchicago]

Originally Posted by g_patrick15

Is that right huh? Geez false information flies around here like a disease

to g_patrick15, politness please.
all this nastiness is having a chilling effect.

[Outrigger]

Originally Posted by JPREP

AT&T, if you recall, only has 3G coverage in the immediate New York City area, whereas T-Mobile will eventually roll-out their 3G coverage outside the New York City area into Long Island and New Jersey (although it is currently only available in NYC).

uh, I live in New Jersey and I have 3G in my area. please don't spread incorrect information if you aren't sure.

[g_patrick15]

Originally Posted by jpfchicago

to g_patrick15, politness please.
all this nastiness is having a chilling effect.

I'm sorry, but I think my post was totally justifiable. Didn't mean any offense by it, I'm just saying the poster said it so matter of factly and then insinuated that us other posters really didn't know a thing about 3G and its whereabouts, like (s)he just wouldn't be called for being totally wrong

[BryanHarig]

T-Mobile has done a lot of work on its 3g network. Here in NYC it is currently available. There are significant areas of the US that are very nearly ready to launch and a few cities that could launch tomorrow if T-Mobile wanted. It is a bit overly optimistic to say that they have a nationwide network just waiting for a switch to be flipped however.

T-Mobile has faced a lot of challenges getting 3g off the ground (government delays, nonstandard bands etc) thus it has been a slow process. Once they get it running I think it will be one of the best 3g networks in the US. T-Mobile has a history of running their 2g network very efficiently and well. Despite their more limited network resources in many areas they are able to tie or beat AT&T in surveys of call quality and dropped calls.

AT&T's own 3g network was originally available only in Manhattan (and not even all of it at that). It has since expanded to cover a significant part of the tri-state area. AT&T has steadily been improving 3g coverage (except for the time out they took in 2007 due to $ problems). While they are not yet at the level of Sprint or Verizon in terms of 3g coverage they are getting there.

I think this is a fair summery of the state of AT&T and T-Mobile 3g. Can we all agree to it and move on with discussion of the BB 9000 on T-Mobile? It is one of the phones I am most looking forward to this year.

[g_patrick15]

Although I have and like my t-mobile service, and dislike att plans, I have to say that att has a pretty decent amoint of 3G coverage, not just in the tristate new york area. I'm in atlanta, and there's att 3G coverage here too.

[Black Bart]

Some people have mentioned Aug 1 for the 9000. see link at
The Boy Genius Report

I dont think so. I keep hearing Sept 17.

[PPCMD]

Originally Posted by JPREP

There are a few different models of the BlackBerry 9000. The one that everyone sees prototypes of is the Bold, the exclusive model for AT&T set for launch in June. The version set for T-Mobile (likely available in August or September) will look slightly different, yet will work on their 3G network. They also DO own more 3G space than AT&T. AT&T, if you recall, only has 3G coverage in the immediate New York City area, whereas T-Mobile will eventually roll-out their 3G coverage outside the New York City area into Long Island and New Jersey (although it is currently only available in NYC).

AT&T has 3G coverage in these cities in New York State, and I can tell you only one is NYC: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Hamptons, New York, Rochester, Syracuse, Watertown

I also went to both AT&T and T-Mo's web sites and looked up their published 3G cities, as in announced, listed and functioning for voice and data. The odd thing is T-Mobile does NOT list 3G on their coverage map and I would think they would want to with so much of it. Now AT&T does show theirs and they cover Watertown, NY small city with a rather LARGE military base in the area.

I just wanted to put some of the information I was able to find and hope it helps others.

[Black Bart]

my girlfriend who works for t-mobile has an experimental 9000 and the 3G feature is working today

[Black Bart]

t-mobile has 3G up and running in parts of NYC, all of Boston, parts of Atlanta and all of Austin Texas. it works great.

[g_patrick15]

I have a 6263 and can check later to see if the 3G is working in atlanta. I highly doubt it is but I'll check

[BBSwany]

Originally Posted by Black Bart

Some people have mentioned Aug 1 for the 9000. see link at
The Boy Genius Report

I dont think so. I keep hearing Sept 17.

I was just reporting what I found on BGR. If it ends up like anything last year. The Bold will be released on T-Mobile in late September. And T-Mobile "officially" announces availability on a Monday so my vote is for Sept. 22nd.

[Black Bart]

Originally Posted by g_patrick15

I have a 6263 and can check later to see if the 3G is working in atlanta. I highly doubt it is but I'll check

Please check out Atlanta and report back.

[BBSwany]

Originally Posted by g_patrick15

I have a 6263 and can check later to see if the 3G is working in atlanta. I highly doubt it is but I'll check

What's the word on 3G in Atlanta? or

[g_patrick15]

My bad I haven't checked but give me till the end of the day and I will report back.

[cubanitoloko23]

Originally Posted by jeremyckitching

I hope T-Mobile does get it first. I am more interested in the faster processor and large amount of internal memory than the 3G capabilities.

same here, i would love the processor speed as well

[Dinkoh]

Originally Posted by Black Bart

t-mobile has 3G up and running in parts of NYC, all of Boston, parts of Atlanta and all of Austin Texas. it works great.

My buddy talked to the CEO of AT&T, and the BOLD is supposed to be exclusive to AT&T for at least a year.

I didn't hear the conversation, but I wouldn't be surprised.

[BryanHarig]

It has been a long time since RIM gave anyone a 1 year exclusive on anything. (Pearl on T-Mobile IIRC) I doubt they would be willing to so restrict their new flagship device in the face of increasing competition.

[HofstraJet]

The Bold will be exclusive to AT&T in the US: BlackBerry® Bold™ 9000

For how long is anybody's guess.