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Old 09-10-2006, 01:17 PM   #561
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Sorry buddy, I didnt see your post! My source is google... the best source.

Please see:
:: LAPTOP Magazine • RIM BlackBerry 7130c ::
with attention to: The new 7130c from Cingular shoehorns a zippy Intel processor into a sleek handheld that costs a very reasonable $199.

Tech Digest: O2 brings BlackBerry 7130 to the UK
with attention to: The 7130g features a 312MHz Intel processor, with 64MB of flash memory and 16MB of SRAM.

RIM BlackBerry 7130e (Verizon Wireless) Specs. Smartphones Specifications.
with attention to: OS provided - RIM OS, PXA901 "Hermon"
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Old 09-10-2006, 03:42 PM   #562
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Sorry buddy, I didnt see your post! My source is google... the best source.

Please see:
:: LAPTOP Magazine • RIM BlackBerry 7130c ::
with attention to: The new 7130c from Cingular shoehorns a zippy Intel processor into a sleek handheld that costs a very reasonable $199.

Tech Digest: O2 brings BlackBerry 7130 to the UK
with attention to: The 7130g features a 312MHz Intel processor, with 64MB of flash memory and 16MB of SRAM.

RIM BlackBerry 7130e (Verizon Wireless) Specs. Smartphones Specifications.
with attention to: OS provided - RIM OS, PXA901 "Hermon"
Well, the first two links are the 7130c, which is the GSM version of the 7130e, as far as I know, Verizon does not use GSM network, so the first two links do not apply here.

For the third link, thank you. I really want to know what kind of crack does the CNet people smoke, because I can't really see an Intel Chip in the photo, and I would love to let them point out.

As far as your statement "My source is google... the best source.", Google is the best search engine, but not the best source for citing, because anybody can post anything on the Internet these days, and citing without really knowing if it is legit, can really ruin your reputation.

With that said, thank you for pointing this out. It's really an eye opener. Still, I am still not convinced that VZW has a BlackBerry handheld that has an Intel Processor inside.
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Well, the first two links are the 7130c, which is the GSM version of the 7130e, as far as I know, Verizon does not use GSM network, so the first two links do not apply here.

For the third link, thank you. I really want to know what kind of crack does the CNet people smoke, because I can't really see an Intel Chip in the photo, and I would love to let them point out.

As far as your statement "My source is google... the best source.", Google is the best search engine, but not the best source for citing, because anybody can post anything on the Internet these days, and citing without really knowing if it is legit, can really ruin your reputation.

With that said, thank you for pointing this out. It's really an eye opener. Still, I am still not convinced that VZW has a BlackBerry handheld that has an Intel Processor inside.
Can you run benchmark on 8703e and let us know what kind of score it gets? it will help us to compare the overall speedwise between 8700 and 8703.
more info about how todownload or run benchmark program:
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...mark#post30842

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Old 09-10-2006, 08:34 PM   #564
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also see

ZDNet's RIM BlackBerry 7130e (Verizon Wireless) Specifications & Features

RIM BlackBerry 7130e (Verizon Wireless) Specs. Smartphones Specifications.
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Old 09-10-2006, 09:35 PM   #565
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I compared the benchmark scores for verizon 7250, verizon 7130e, and 8700C. I notice both 7250 and 7130e have almost same scores, but for 8700c, its 2X faster than both 7130e and 7250. My assumption that both 7250 and 7130e don't have intel chip, only qualcomm chipsets. Most likely, 8703e will continue using old qualcomm chipset from 7250 and 7130e and will be 50% slower than any GSM powered 8700s.

Verizon 7130e
JBenchmark1: 847
Details:
Text: 133
2D Shapes:150
3D Shapes:112
Fill Rate:49
Animation: 299

JBenchmark2: 36
Details:
Image Manipulation:37
Text: 94
Sprites: 15
3D Transform: 31
User Interface: 35

Verizon 7250 4.1
Benchmark 1: 897
Text:192
2D: 220
3D: 180
Fill: 71
Animation: 234
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Benchmark 2: 41
Image Manip: 44
Text: 118
Sprites: 16
3D trans: 37
User Inter: 37

Cingular 8700C

JBenchmark: 1770

Details:
Text: 421
2d Shapes: 484
3d: 310
Fill Rate:123
Animation: 432


JBenchmark2: 84

Details:
Image manipulation: 96
Text: 210
Sprites: 27
3d Transform: 101
User interface: 72
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Jeez.... that would suck.
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Old 09-10-2006, 09:50 PM   #567
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Any chance Verizon will offer a $29.99 BlackBerry Internet Service plan as Cingular does?
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Any chance Verizon will offer a $29.99 BlackBerry Internet Service plan as Cingular does?
as per my corporate rep, not any time soon.
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:31 PM   #569
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its all about the unlimited data +1350 minutes!
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:49 PM   #570
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so is it definite 9/18
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Old 09-11-2006, 03:02 AM   #571
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so is it definite 9/18
Wouldn't we all like to know!
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Old 09-11-2006, 09:42 AM   #572
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ok, so a few of us say Intel processors, a few say Qualcomm. Since I am not a Verizon customer (waiting on 8703e) and a Cingular 8700c user, I wanted to really know. Walk into Verizon, get a 7130e for a 15 day trial run (EvDO test and to open and verify chip).

It is indeed a Qualcomm chip and not an Intel. The fact that they stuck with the same chip in the 7250 is pretty interesting. More memory, yes, but the brain is the same? (note, I have not opened a 7250, but going on what has been reported). I know Qualcomm owns the license on CDMA, perhaps that is the reason to require it?

Data speed rocks, much better than EDGE. However it is definitely slower in responding to OS requests than my 8700c. Look the same, but not act the same

Maybe I'll wait for the US 3G version BB in November.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:37 AM   #573
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in all honesty, I dont expect to use my blackberry to play games in 3d, or to watch movies, or to even stream radio. As long as my blackberry is quick to the draw whn pulling up the calendar, switching to speakerphone, and writing notes then its ok by me. if its slow to answer a phone call, i.e. the OS needs to activate the phone (?) then we might have a problem..
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Old 09-11-2006, 12:40 PM   #574
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hopefully the OS won't be that slow to mess with the phone functions, that would be very bad. I have used a friends 8700c which seemed pleasantly fast, and the 8700r, or the 8707r not sure about the exact model number the guy was from britain, but both worked very fast, unlike some windows 5.0 phones i have grown tired off for now.

called verizon wireless and nothing new to report, the customer service rep. said all she had in her system was an ad for it and that it was coming soon.

arrhhhh, is cingular and tmobile really that much more awful than verizon. my call quality is great i wouldn't want to lose that.

Im a bit of a noob when it comes to the BB, is there any reason Verizon doesn't offer BIS 29.99 data plan, does the one VZW offers for 44.99 better than the 29.99 plan and has all the features of it as well. i need email to come to my phone directly from gmail, without pressing send/receive im not on a sp2 server etc. I need the phone to get email directly, something like the sidekick 3 does nicely and 500 dollar windows 5.0 phone from VZW had trouble doing.

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Im a bit of a noob when it comes to the BB, is there any reason Verizon doesn't offer BIS 29.99 data plan, does the one VZW offers for 44.99 better than the 29.99 plan and has all the features of it as well. i need email to come to my phone directly from gmail, without pressing send/receive im not on a sp2 server etc. I need the phone to get email directly, something like the sidekick 3 does nicely and 500 dollar windows 5.0 phone from VZW had trouble doing.
because with verizon you pay for quality. well, for my location at least.
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Something I received from a friend today....I'm no boy genius but I got this from a VERY reliable source...Mostly just confirms what we already know

Device RIM BlackBerry 8703e - 09/17/06
The Wireless Devices Group would like to introduce the RIM BlackBerry 8703e to our product line-up. This thin, stylish and lightweight handheld offers the ultimate in performance, design and function. The 8703e will be launching on the Internet on Sunday, 9/17 followed by a B2B launch date of Monday, 9/18. The Full Retail launch of this device will be communicated at a later time.

Key Features:

* All Digital - 1xRTT/EV-DO/GPS (E911/LBS)
* BlackBerry Desktop Software version 4.1
* 64MB Flash Memory/16 MB SRAM
* Tethered modem support for BroadbandAccess Service
* Large, hi-res LCD screen w/bright LED backlight
* Full QWERTY Keyboard w/dedicated Speakerphone key
* Thumb-operated Trackwheel
* Bluetooth Capable (for certain profiles)


Like the 7130e, we will also be offering a FREE Promotional DVD from RIM for the BlackBerry 8703e. This DVD takes the customer through an easy to understand, step by step visual presentation of how to set up and operate the 8703e. GOAL of Free DVD: to reduce customer care volume related to BlackBerry support.

This FREE DVD will be available in late September. The Free DVD will not be included in the BlackBerry 8703e product box. Item Code (VIIA) - V8703
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If this is true then I will buy it online and overnight it, so will have it the 19th!!!!!!!
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If this is true then I will buy it online and overnight it, so will have it the 19th!!!!!!!

ditto that...
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I guess their Slogan is right on the dot then, launching a new product on a Sunday... They Never Stop Working For You
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I want to order it overnight, but I wish cnet would do a review on it or one of you guys had a more comprehensive review
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