[omkhar]

Originally Posted by A4X4

You do not need the Voyageur software to do tethering. Just make sure you are running 4.1 software is the main thing. I am using it on a Telus network on both a 7250 and a 7130.

thanks,

hmm... could this be ISP specific (Bell vs Telus?) Can you see anything the Bell posters maybe doing incorrectly that would be preventing them from tethering?

[A4X4]

Not that I could really see. I followed the notes in other posts in regards to setting it up as another modem on the laptop.

I had a user with an older O/S and we just bumped him up to 4.1 and he was up and running.

What number are you looking to dial to make the connection?

[markhutchison]

Originally Posted by craeside

... I donwloaded telstra 4.1 and installed it on my Bell BB... It will now at least connect and my laptop gets an IP address everything. except no data transfer through web browswer etc. i can ping the gateway but ... I appear to get nothing from the outside world.

I downloaded the Telstra build some time ago and received the exact same result:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/showthread.php?t=24911

Today, running one of the new 7250s that Bell Mobility is shipping with OS 4.1.0.303 and PRL 31012, I'm submitting this post from my laptop while tethered. I am not using the Voyageur software ... although Voyageur does, in my experience, do a very nice job of configuring the network settings.

I've fought with tethering under the Telstra OS with the older PRL and gotten nowhere. My assumption is that the new PRL is 100% neccessary for tethering on Bell Mobility's network. There may also be something in the OS build itself that isn't present in the Telstra release ...

[markhutchison]

Originally Posted by mdthomas8

I got to the same place... I get an IP address in the 10.x.x.x space, and can't ping anything. Although it does assign DNS servers via DHCP - they aren't responding, and my gateway is my own IP address...

For interest sake:

The IP range I am receiving that gives me full tethering is 161.x.x.x. My Default Gateway is my own laptop's IP and I have DNS servers in the 198.x.x.x and 209.x.x.x

[A4X4]

Hmm, I think you may be right in regards to being very carrier specific. I am using the Telestra build on mine and did not update the PRL and I got it running. I looked at the Voyageur software and it looked like it would be nice and easy to take care of the settings with it. I searched for a similar item for the Telus BB's but could not find anything.

Do you know if Bell has posted that software release yet?

[markhutchison]

Originally Posted by A4X4

I am using the Telestra build on mine and did not update the PRL and I got it running.

A4X4, are you a Bell Mobility or Telus subscriber?

[A4X4]

I am a Telus subcriber.

Thanks,

[craeside]

Ok are there any other techs in here ? I cannot see the need for any "special equipment" to update the PRL. I could see maybe software being needed and a laptop with USb ports thats it. there are no other magicports on the BB 7250. So if someone has this software and and image from one of the newly released Bell 7250's we could all flash our BB and get on with.
I mean economics is the driving force here. Unless the devices do t OTA with a low power signal within a RF cage.

Any techs with thoughts on this ?

[markhutchison]

Originally Posted by craeside

I cannot see the need for any "special equipment" to update the PRL. I could see maybe software being needed and a laptop with USb ports thats it. ... So if someone has this software and and image from one of the newly released Bell 7250's we could all flash our BB and get on with.

You're absolutely right. The hardware involved in the flash upgrade will be a PC and a USB cable. It is the software solution that is, as yet, unpublished.

If you know of any way to extract the necessary level of information from the BlackBerry and a way to upload the resultant image to a new handset please let me know and I will try it out with the hardware that I have on hand.

[A4X4]

I know with Telus we can dial in and get a PRL update. I think it would take some real digging to find a way to pull that out of the device.

Correct me if I am wrong but the PRL is different for every provider?

[omkhar]

Originally Posted by A4X4

I know with Telus we can dial in and get a PRL update. I think it would take some real digging to find a way to pull that out of the device.

Correct me if I am wrong but the PRL is different for every provider?

Yes PRLs are different for each provider AFAIK

try dialing #HELP* and see if the PRL version appears corresponds to what we're seeing on Bell Blackberrys - I could be wrong but I suspect it will differ

[omkhar]

Originally Posted by craeside

Ok are there any other techs in here ? I cannot see the need for any "special equipment" to update the PRL. I could see maybe software being needed and a laptop with USb ports thats it. there are no other magicports on the BB 7250. So if someone has this software and and image from one of the newly released Bell 7250's we could all flash our BB and get on with.
I mean economics is the driving force here. Unless the devices do t OTA with a low power signal within a RF cage.

Any techs with thoughts on this ?

Although I'm not a tech I have a wee bit of a technical background. I think flashing a device in a faraday cage would kick ass using a low power RF transmittor - but I'm just crazy like that

I guess the $1,000,000 question is who has the software, and who can flash our PRLs.

Also a question I asked earlier - will 4.1 bring MMS to our Blackberrys?

[A4X4]

The PRL version listed on my Telus unit is 11951.
Yep, that is way different.

[milkman1031]

Originally Posted by omkhar

Although I'm not a tech I have a wee bit of a technical background. I think flashing a device in a faraday cage would kick ass using a low power RF transmittor - but I'm just crazy like that

I guess the $1,000,000 question is who has the software, and who can flash our PRLs.

Also a question I asked earlier - will 4.1 bring MMS to our Blackberrys?

I have been trying to find a way to flash a prl for sometime looking everywhere on the internet that i can think of but to no luck. i hate to give up i just dont think its possible

[madnesss]

went into 2 bell world stores today in the downtown toronto area - the comments out of both of them was the same... both knew about the upgrade, said the new units had the software loaded onto them, but they had no idea when they'd be able to do upgrades...

[omkhar]

I have a friend of a friend who works at Bell and she's asking our corporate rep for the "unofficial" word. Lets see what happens

[tflux]

I asked our corporate rep this week and am told it'll probably be next week, but he isn't 100% sure on the details.

[omkhar]

No new info from my friend at Bell - she just suggested replacing the device (right... tell everyone my new PIN)

[craeside]

COOOLLLL !!! Ok i just got of the phone with Bell agent she said they currently have instructions to tell customers as of today download t he 7130e 4.1 software and than go to a bell world that has the prl capability and it will be done. She said this just happened today.

[A4X4]

So they are saying to load the 7130 software on the 7250s and that will work, as long as you do a PRL update?