[biffs]

Nah, real world edge speeds are up to 200+ kb/s. usually its above 100kbs/ depending on the class of the device you are using.

http://howardforums.com/showthread.p...ght=edge+speed

[Mark Rejhon]

Originally Posted by boygenius

Mark there is noway real world speeds of EDGE are 200kbps, more like 40-70kbps on Cingular at least..

You're totally wrong. On Rogers, there is. I know someone who downloaded a .ZIP (compressed) file at a whopping 25 kilobytes per second (= 200 kilobits per second at 8 bits per byte) in a PC tether configuration or a PC laptop card.

It is not very common but is common enough, it is possible in uncongested Rogers Canada airwaves. (which is what you get if you try the download at 5am).

Canadian GSM is known to be better than USA GSM -- although you all have an excellent Verizon CDMA network.

biffs is correct. Go see Howard Forums for proof of MANY people breaking 200 kilobits per second on Canadian EDGE. The record was 242 kilobits per second benchmarked by a Rogers dealer named treatz in Toronto, although 150 Kbps is pretty common.

I personally witnessed 15-20 kilobytes per second (120 - 160 Kbps) downloading VeriChat OTA on a BlackBerry 8700 here in Canada, so real world speeds appear to commonly break 100 kilobits per second.

Are you sure we are talking about EDGE and not GPRS? GPRS is actually realworld 40 kilobits per second in Canada -- I've downloaded a .zip file at a full 5 kilobytes per second on another cellphone in tethered configuration. (Albiet usually more like 3.5 to 4 kilobytes per second, which translates to about 30 kilobits per second at 8 bits per byte)

Also, to avoid the proxy conversion, benchmarking downloads on BlackBerry is more realistically done using a unconverted compressed file download such as a .jar file (more than 20 seconds) and a stopwatch. A good download benchmark is VeriChat at http://www.verichat.com/ota/VeriChat.jad which downloads a 330 kilobyte compressed .jar file. This file is transparently passed through the BWC/BIS/BES proxy, so this is a more accurate byte-for-byte benchmark.

[biffs]

Yeah, ive used the sony ericson GC82 edge card back when EDGE first came out in Canada, more than a year ago. It was getting around 120-160kbs on the highway.

Mark, how does the blackberry 7290 compare to to the 8700 in terms of this benchmark? - i dont see it listed in this thread.

[biffs]

double post... i guess

[mkg]

I'm guessing the 7290 and the 7250 share numbers.

[Mark Rejhon]

Originally Posted by biffs

Mark, how does the blackberry 7290 compare to to the 8700 in terms of this benchmark? - i dont see it listed in this thread.

Approximately 4-5 times faster than the 7290. See the Benchmark thread in General. (Search term: "Benchmark Your BlackBerry")

[Mark Rejhon]

Originally Posted by mkg

I'm guessing the 7290 and the 7250 share numbers.

No, they don't. The 7250 is about twice as fast as the 7290.

The 8700 is about 4-5 times faster than 7210/7230/7280/7290 (which all share almost the same CPU performance numbers according to JBenchmark.com)

[biffs]

Originally Posted by Mark Rejhon

Approximately 4-5 times faster than the 7290. See the Benchmark thread in General. (Search term: "Benchmark Your BlackBerry")

awesome, thanks mark.

I cant wait to see this thing live in action.

[mkg]

Thanks Mark. Sounds impressive. The fact that my 7730 is almost the slowest one out there is really driving me nuts now. T-Mobile has no 7290 available, the 8700t won't be out for months. Me sad.

Just looked at the benchmark thread. Me even sadder now. The 7230 is faster than the 7730.

[ajg]

Originally Posted by mkg

Thanks Mark. Sounds impressive. The fact that my 7730 is almost the slowest one out there is really driving me nuts now. T-Mobile has no 7290 available, the 8700t won't be out for months. Me sad.

Just looked at the benchmark thread. Me even sadder now. The 7230 is faster than the 7730.

Is T-Mobile sold out of the 7290?! My friend just ordered one online and he said it won't be to him for about a week. I wonder why they are so backlogged with 7290 orders.

[davesa]

will this be faster than new verizon 7130

[Mark Rejhon]

Originally Posted by davesa

will this be faster than new verizon 7130

I would wager a wild guess that 7130 and 8700 would use the same CPU at the same Mhz, so similiar benchmark results. However, the screen resolution is different, so that does have an impact on graphics benchmarks.