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Old 12-13-2006, 09:27 PM   #1
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I've been searching and I don't think that this has been directly mentioned.

Plus, I'm curious as to what everybody thinks or in other cases doesn't even care, they just want the phone.

All the current BB have a suggested retail price of $300+

7290-$300 (currently selling for $100)
7105t-$300 (currently selling for $100)
Pearl-$350 (currently selling for $200)
8700g-$400 (currently selling for $250)
* Currently selling is suggested retail minus instant discounts/mail in rebates). I think that's if you sign up or get a free upgrade discount type deal.* (btw, I'm a T-Mobile customer, and used T-Mobile prices)

So what are the predictions of the 8800 price?

I think that it is a combination of the 8700g and the Pearl. I think it will go retail for $400, but have a discount price between $50 (which the 8700 first did) and the Pearl ($100 instant discount).
So either $300 or $350.
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:29 PM   #2
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I would say that's a pretty accurate assumption. I hope it is anyway!
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:32 PM   #3
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Yeah that's half the reson you tak a bb is becaus. You don't want to pay for an overcosted POS called a treo
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:50 AM   #4
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I would say the retail price will be at $499 and the discounted 2 yr will be at $299.
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What's the old saying? "If you have to ask..."

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Old 12-14-2006, 02:42 AM   #6
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What's the old saying? "If you have to ask..."

Ouch some people might take offense to that...
Fortuantely I'm not one of them
Me buying a BB @ retail cost is like me buying the lady Tiffany's, I don't want to know here's the card where do I sign!
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:35 AM   #7
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What's the old saying? "If you have to ask..."

You can't afford it. Yeah, I read that somewhere too.

No, I wasn't implying that...I was just wondering....I'm a business major, and in economics we talk about "supply and demand". I'm wondering, if the demand is high (which, I'm assuming it is), how much is TOO high for the price in order to reach equilibrium for the supply?

$500, $550, $600?

I can see myself spending $300, but not $500+. I'm in college, I got other things to worry about.

Although, your average BB owner is probably in a business where email and internet is a must wherever you are, and BB satisfies that target market.

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Yeah that's half the reson you tak a bb is becaus. You don't want to pay for an overcosted POS called a treo

My treo has always worked flawlessly!
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:40 PM   #9
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My crashes everyday!!! 8800 for cingular. *I agree with the $299 pricetag.
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:35 PM   #10
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299$ sounds ok
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:13 PM   #11
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My treo has always worked flawlessly!

Then you took it out of the box and powered it on...
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My treo has always worked flawlessly!
Couldn't agree more! I've never had such an excellent doorstop!
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Old 12-15-2006, 03:32 PM   #13
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You can't afford it. Yeah, I read that somewhere too.

No, I wasn't implying that...I was just wondering....I'm a business major, and in economics we talk about "supply and demand". I'm wondering, if the demand is high (which, I'm assuming it is), how much is TOO high for the price in order to reach equilibrium for the supply?

$500, $550, $600?

I can see myself spending $300, but not $500+. I'm in college, I got other things to worry about.

Although, your average BB owner is probably in a business where email and internet is a must wherever you are, and BB satisfies that target market.
I would say that they will have to define the target market and BB's marketing plan for that market. Then they will have to guesstimate the number of units of sale and total revenue. I'm sure they will take the elasticity of demand rather quickly into account to level out the pricing for the consumer which may e different than the corporate customer.

C-man

This is a good case study for Economics class to figure out the final product release price.
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Show me an MSRP and I'll negotiate it down..... every time!
Why pay retail?

Cheers...........
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Old 12-17-2006, 07:32 PM   #15
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Show me an MSRP and I'll negotiate it down..... every time!
Why pay retail?

Cheers...........
This is the United State, not like other countries that barter for their products. There are no negotiations. The only negotiation is when the item has a special, goes "on sale" or has a "coupon". Then you can negotiate to pay the lower price with the discount or the higher price of the MSRP.

Plus, buying a new BB, isn't like buying a car.
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This is the United State, not like other countries that barter for their products. There are no negotiations. The only negotiation is when the item has a special, goes "on sale" or has a "coupon". Then you can negotiate to pay the lower price with the discount or the higher price of the MSRP.

Plus, buying a new BB, isn't like buying a car.
Thanks for supporting the full price theory.

It keeps the gross profit up and allows some lattitude for those of us who believe in the theory of positive thinking and unlimited possibilities.

I agree, it's not like buying a car. It's a much smaller investment. And yet there is plenty of mark up and I simply split the difference so everyone wins. They sell another unit at a moderately reduced price and I save $$$.

Remember NO lives on the flip side of YES. I have not paid retail for any of the new phones I've owned.

Not only that, I do not negotiate in a hostile fashion threatening to change carriers like a lot of negative people do. I negotiate to everyones advantage, with patience, courtesy, respect and perserverance.

At the end, they are thanking me for my business, as it should be. I have a high lifetime value to those I do business with, as I'm a very loyal customer. I have been with my service provider over 5 years.

I find each time I make a purchase it's an great opportunity for me to polish my negotiating skills.

Cheers....
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Thanks for supporting the full price theory.

It keeps the gross profit up and allows some lattitude for those of us who believe in the theory of positive thinking and unlimited possibilities.
Well put, archer6. I love those who state authoritatively "there ARE no negotiations" because that just leaves more net margin for those of us who know better and are willing and able to negotiate.

And I agree, its better to negotiate with honey than with vinegar. I've been with my provider over 10 years now, and they are quite willing to negotiate with me at upgrade time.
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I've been searching and I don't think that this has been directly mentioned.

Plus, I'm curious as to what everybody thinks or in other cases doesn't even care, they just want the phone.

All the current BB have a suggested retail price of $300+

7290-$300 (currently selling for $100)
7105t-$300 (currently selling for $100)
Pearl-$350 (currently selling for $200)
8700g-$400 (currently selling for $250)
* Currently selling is suggested retail minus instant discounts/mail in rebates). I think that's if you sign up or get a free upgrade discount type deal.* (btw, I'm a T-Mobile customer, and used T-Mobile prices)

So what are the predictions of the 8800 price?

I think that it is a combination of the 8700g and the Pearl. I think it will go retail for $400, but have a discount price between $50 (which the 8700 first did) and the Pearl ($100 instant discount).
So either $300 or $350.
I would add $150-$200 to the price of the 8700. You're getting the equivalent of the 8700, plus GPS, plus WiFi, in a more stylish form factor. And you as a college student are definitely not the target audience for this device - they will price it high because it will be your company that buys it for you The QWERTY version of the Pearl should be more moderately priced, and IMO the Pearl should be less if they want to really drive the "smartphone" concept down into the "dumphone" consumer-trenches.
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And I agree, its better to negotiate with honey than with vinegar. I've been with my provider over 10 years now, and they are quite willing to negotiate with me at upgrade time.
Well Said!

There is no substitute for being a good, loyal customer.

In addition I try to put myself in the place of the person I'm speaking to. So, in a situation like this dealing with the public, they get treated with disrespect much of the time.

When I call in I'm always courteous and easy to work with. Suddenly they want to work on my behalf to take care of my requests. As opposed to the customer that is rude and makes demands or threatens to go to another carrier, before even allowing them a chance to see what they might do.

I have found that with Cingular in particular they do appreciate their loyal customers. Like any other large scale operation, they cannot be perfect and they might move slowly, however they do a good job.

Cheers...... especially to all you positive people out there...
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:12 PM   #20
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I'm more concerned with the price to purchase outside of the new activation or upgrade discount price. It seems that any time a Blackberry that I want is released I'm not eligible for an upgrade -- and I'm certainly not switching carriers for a new Blackberry. I think I've paid about $300 for my last two Blackberries that were purchased this way...
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This is the United State, not like other countries that barter for their products. There are no negotiations. The only negotiation is when the item has a special, goes "on sale" or has a "coupon". Then you can negotiate to pay the lower price with the discount or the higher price of the MSRP.

Plus, buying a new BB, isn't like buying a car.
I don't negotiate a lot but it's pretty rare that I have to pay MSRP for anything... You do know that the "S" is for "suggested" and not all retailers follow manufacturers' suggestions when it comes to pricing, right?

There's definitely leeway in pricing on wireless devices. Read up here and at Howard Forums.

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