[Mr Pink57]

Originally Posted by Soapm

I think the 7105 has the OS???

The only BB besides the 8700 that has 4.1 is the 7100i at this time.

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[AlbertoM]

Originally Posted by krad

BTW... THE BATTERY LIFE ON THE 8700 sucks. I get to 3pm with bluetooth on standby all day and it dies.

i get 1 bar left at 10pm on my 7100.

the 8700 is still an amazing device, but there is to much hype about it.

Hm. I have my 7100G on all day, I am a heavy email user and cell phone user, plus I have PocketDay on doing its weather and RSS updating, and I end up with about 60%~70% battrery left. Now, granted, I may use BT for about 2 hours rather than standby all day. I surf infrequently, say couple times weekly. What else do you do to drive the battery down? And what is the difference, could it be the brighter screen and the EDGE on the 8700?

BTW, any chance on a comparison photo with the 7100?

[saldous]

I still have the 6280, no colour, no bluetooth and my battery lasts 4 days + (don't use it as a phone). I guess all these new features and the screen take it out on the battery.

[corey@12mile]

krad... yer ok dude... you should stay... at least you make productive posts... that singlemanriot *****boy can go... he has nothing productive to offer. cause if I was an oscar meyer weiner, I would stick it up singlemanriots arse.

cd.

[krad]

Originally Posted by corey@12mile

krad... yer ok dude... you should stay... at least you make productive posts... that singlemanriot *****boy can go... he has nothing productive to offer. cause if I was an oscar meyer weiner, I would stick it up singlemanriots arse.

cd.

lol....

I had comparsion shots but people were crappy about it.

I had yak-on for an hour or so.

battery life is no good on the 8700. When i am using the device the brightness constantly changes. That is probaby due to the battery loss.

I think rim made this device and later on through in the dimmer because this thing sucks up so much juice.

I have edge 99% of the time. i am in north jersey.

The device i have appears to be the final version, who knows though.. with the delay they might be fixing some memory leak or something for better battery performance...

if you were to buy this phone, you would want them to have the extended battery out on day 1 of sales. I know i would need it.

[saldous]

Maybe that is the OS update that is causing the delay. Anyway to turn the back light off completely?

[richard371]

How is it as a phone using it as a handset?

[jimn367]

Is there some sort of auto dimming circuitry to preserver battery power? Any sort of photo cell on the device? We tried an autodimmer once and users hated it. If your hand was over the cell it would get dim...

I sure hope the 8700 doesn't have anything like that.

[krad]

Originally Posted by richard371

How is it as a phone using it as a handset?

works great!

the phone is much better quality then my 7100t. The speakerphone is alittle bit more clear, but i think the 7100 has a louder speakerphone. Not sure though they are pretty close to volumes.

[krad]

Originally Posted by jimn367

Is there some sort of auto dimming circuitry to preserver battery power? Any sort of photo cell on the device? We tried an autodimmer once and users hated it. If your hand was over the cell it would get dim...

I sure hope the 8700 doesn't have anything like that.

the 8700 has this feature... for example. I am in a room that is mostly dark with a light behind me. I am sitting on a couch.

If i put the blackberry while it is on, on my lap, in the darker area, the 8700 will dim lower, to the point where it is harder to read.

When i take the blackberry up to my head and in the direct rays of the light, the device lights up twice as much and takes about 2-4 seconds to notice the change in light differences.

If i fool around with it and go back and forth twice... the thing that dims the phone appears to get jammed and it just stays at that level for 30 seconds or so. You can see it going stupid and not knowing what to do.

Dont' get me wrong, it is a great device, fits well in the hand, but for new features, they are not 100% perfected.

Even with it's faults, it is a fun device to have and play with. I have gotten used to the internet browser being that it only takes a whole website to come up in about 1 second.

[singlemanriot]

Originally Posted by corey@12mile

krad... yer ok dude... you should stay... at least you make productive posts... that singlemanriot *****boy can go... he has nothing productive to offer. cause if I was an oscar meyer weiner, I would stick it up singlemanriots arse.

cd.

Nice.

I only made the suguestion he use the edit, never said he should leave. No need for this "productive" post. Dude threw a temper tantrum the second someone did rub his nuts for gracing us with info. The info is very cool, and helpful, his excitement is great, just would rather he take more then 30 seconds to post and then repost.

[Boy Genius]

I have had not one issue with battery, and no complaints...Lasts forever. I don't use it as a phone and contstantly logged into AIM/MSN/Yahoo and constant BBM, PIN, and Email and it will last me 2 days straight, oh yeah and constant web browsing...

[krad]

with bluetooth off today, i have half a battery right not at 8pm

[kal311]

I have a Nokia 6682 that has a pretty good auto dimmer so it's somewhat disappointing to hear that the 8700 isn't so great at this, but not the end of the world. Krad, have you had any issues dropping calls? There's another post in another thread here complaining about lots of dropped calls with the 8700.

[kal311]

Oh and btw, as a new member of this forum it's frustrating to have to sift through all the bs and petty infighting just to read something that actually matters. krad, thanks for sticking to your guns and continuing to post. Your info is very helpful.

[Soapm]

Can you turn the auto dimming feature off? Does BBlight work with the 8700 and what impact does it have?

[besadmin23]

Krad, do you have the bluetooth on discoverable? Plus what BT headset do you have. Is it like a Motorola HS-850 with the fold up boom. I have found those to be much better on battery performance as they dont keep a constant BT connection to the phone all day. It only connects when you open the boom.

[Boy Genius]

No reason for BBlight, and you can control the light sensor, and turn it off.

[joginder]

Can someone confirm this for me?
Does 8700 has the same kind of screen like 7100 series where the screen goes black after 45-50 seconds and you will not see anything unless you hit any key.. that is kind of anoying because I can have my BB on cradle at work and see if there are new messages or not.. I know I could see the blinking red light but i would rather see the screen all times.

[Soapm]

Originally Posted by boygenius

No reason for BBlight, and you can control the light sensor, and turn it off.

I don't know if I believe you or not boygenius so why not send me one of your units so I can test this theory?? I'm willing to sacrifice my time to test your 8700 for ya! LOL