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Old 07-15-2008, 02:11 PM   #21
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yeah, vista has so many bugs, i know a bunch of people who have downgraded to XP just because they couldn't take vista's crap any more.
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yeah, vista has so many bugs, i know a bunch of people who have downgraded to XP just because they couldn't take vista's crap any more.
design flaws are not bugs :P
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Once the bugs acheive seniority, they'll be features.
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Old 07-18-2008, 01:18 PM   #26
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dunno i spent 3 hrs getting this vista book to see my local network, i got it to finally see 2 xp boxes, still dose not see my linux boxes...

i wont even get into this whole, import outlook to outlook express, export, import to windows mail in vista, my god, a root canal would be quicker/simpler then this pos thing.

edit: i still have not gotten the last solution working!

2nd edit: how do you turn this pos allow/deny crap off, whos the moron behind this, honestly, if i started the bloody file, why would i deny it!
cursor on the file>>right click>>properties>>security>>edit>>highlight your profile>>check all the boxes under allow>>apply>>ok
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To all who oppose Vista...look out...its going to take over soon...do yourself a favor and learn it along with umbunto and leopard...just a heads up. Cross pollination(sp) is going to happen also. Multiple manufacturers modules within one OS. All controlled by the core of Vista.
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To all who oppose Vista...look out...its going to take over soon...do yourself a favor and learn it along with umbunto and leopard...just a heads up. Cross pollination(sp) is going to happen also. Multiple manufacturers modules within one OS. All controlled by the core of Vista.
Core of Vista? Is that like a pimple?
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dunno i spent 3 hrs getting this vista book to see my local network, i got it to finally see 2 xp boxes, still dose not see my linux boxes...

i wont even get into this whole, import outlook to outlook express, export, import to windows mail in vista, my god, a root canal would be quicker/simpler then this pos thing.

edit: i still have not gotten the last solution working!

2nd edit: how do you turn this pos allow/deny crap off, whos the moron behind this, honestly, if i started the bloody file, why would i deny it!
cursor on the file>>right click>>properties>>security>>edit>>highlight your profile>>check all the boxes under allow>>apply>>ok
So wait you can't turn this allow deny completely off? Or get rid of it?
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Core of Vista? Is that like a pimple?
LOL I love this forum! I better get out of here before someone starts thinking I work for Microsoft(R)
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:38 PM   #31
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No need to fret... Windows 7 is on the horizon.

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My next new computer is gonna be a Mac and I will get Parallels or VMware Fusion to run Windoze on it for things that can only be done on Windoze.
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i really wish more people would move to linux then mac osx(garbage) or microsoft (next pos os) kinda stinks were are stuck in a world lead by blind masses and they get appealed too. oh well :(
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I've played with Linux -- I think moving to Linux is a great idea. But one of the companies I work for has online apps that only work on Windoze unfortunately.
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I've played with Linux -- I think moving to Linux is a great idea. But one of the companies I work for has online apps that only work on Windoze unfortunately.
i think that is most peoples problem leaving windows, their is a aspect in their job or their usage where windows is needed, even for games you need windows. only if software mfg would actually recognize other os'es and start tailoring to them.

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I used to say a lot of the same things about Vista. When I ordered a new Dell to replace the almost 5-year old PC my only OS choices were Vista or XP Media Center. I decided to give Vista a shot since I was buying the hardware that would be able to run it nicely. I even told my wife, "I'll give Vista a week before I install XP."

Long story short I'm convinced Vista is a great OS. It's more stable than XP, recovers from problems in a more controlled manner than XP, and runs all the stuff I need it to run without any problems. What might cause a blue screen error in XP merely does a "so-and-so stopped working so I restarted it" in Vista.

Sure, it does things a little different than XP, but you quickly learn to adjust. I always laugh at the folks who complain about the UAC stuff. I recall various flavors of Linux doing much the same thing (requesting admin password/access when doing something you don't have rights to do). I saw the UAC window a couple times today all when I was installing new software or running the command line window as admin.

I'm sure you can see all kinds of threads about XP in old forum threads back when it first came out.

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Windows vista and xp sp3 should of fixed basic networking. Yet if I change the dchp starting ip I get no local networking.

As for uaw only linux dist that does that is ubuntu sine it has no root acct.
Now I know I'm not retarded. When I flag the workgroup set it private and connect through the same router I should see my network. Yet vista is incapable of the easiest tasks.

As for uaw its the dumbest thing ever. If you double click something it pops up yet hello I want to run said app. Its nothing comparable to linux.
Here's a better one why does vista throttle tcpip traffic only os to date to this.
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Windows vista and xp sp3 should of fixed basic networking. Yet if I change the dchp starting ip I get no local networking.
Change the DHCP starting IP? I've had no issues using DHCP on my home network with Vista. Or XP.

What do you mean by change the DHCP starting IP? You get an IP then change it?

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As for uaw only linux dist that does that is ubuntu sine it has no root acct.
Now I know I'm not retarded. When I flag the workgroup set it private and connect through the same router I should see my network. Yet vista is incapable of the easiest tasks.
I've seen this on other Linux dist's long before Ubuntu came along.

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As for uaw its the dumbest thing ever. If you double click something it pops up yet hello I want to run said app. Its nothing comparable to linux.
So turn it off. Problem solved!

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Here's a better one why does vista throttle tcpip traffic only os to date to this.
I've yet to experience this and never heard of it before. Got any other details?

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Change the DHCP starting IP? I've had no issues using DHCP on my home network with Vista. Or XP.

What do you mean by change the DHCP starting IP? You get an IP then change it?
no i changed in my router what ip range i use, when dhcp starts giving out ip at, i went from a 10.0.0.1 to a 192.168.0.175 range and vista lost my whole network, redoing the network vista could not see my local network.
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I've seen this on other Linux dist's long before Ubuntu came along.
i'm guessing other dist using gnome, only reason i said ubuntu is its the only dist that does not have a root acct which you get a prompt to for a root password.
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cant turn it off without getting the world most anonying popup box your system is at risk.
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I've yet to experience this and never heard of it before. Got any other details?

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no i changed in my router what ip range i use, when dhcp starts giving out ip at, i went from a 10.0.0.1 to a 192.168.0.175 range and vista lost my whole network, redoing the network vista could not see my local network.
So your Vista PC was connected to your home network, then you changed the DHCP configuration on the router, but your Vista computer didn't request a new IP? That sounds about normal. Your Vista computer already had an IP address. Until the lease-time expires on the initial IP it received it's not going to request a new one.

Rebooting your Vista box or doing ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew would have resolved this. Just like it would have with XP, Win98, Win95, etc.

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cant turn it off without getting the world most anonying popup box your system is at risk.
Your system is more at risk. Click accept or whatever and move on. Again, problem solved!

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I've heard of ISP's throttling bandwidth, but never Vista. Again, have a link or some details?

So far you've not convinced me that I should go back to XP.

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So your Vista PC was connected to your home network, then you changed the DHCP configuration on the router, but your Vista computer didn't request a new IP? That sounds about normal. Your Vista computer already had an IP address. Until the lease-time expires on the initial IP it received it's not going to request a new one.

Rebooting your Vista box or doing ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew would have resolved this. Just like it would have with XP, Win98, Win95, etc.
thats just it, vista got the new ips it had internet connection it cannot see the other 4 pc on the network

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Your system is more at risk. Click accept or whatever and move on. Again, problem solved!
that would be fine, if it did pop up ever 20 min!

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So far you've not convinced me that I should go back to XP.
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